[pilebuck13]

We could eliminate the deficit now, but the GOP will have to cut defense spending and all corporate welfare, something they've not been in favor of for decades.

I believe obama agreed to bail out the banks didn't he? Stop it...but fasten your seatbelts tuesday when the tax bill is passed a major scandal will leak in the trump Russia probe it's so predictable watch and see

[guitarjosh]

I believe obama agreed to bail out the banks didn't he? Stop it...but fasten your seatbelts tuesday when the tax bill is passed a major scandal will leak in the trump Russia probe it's so predictable watch and see

Bush bailed out the banks, Obama bailed out the car companies. Either party claiming to be deficit hawks is a joke.

[lakerboy]

The new brackets are very good for couples who make in the $300k range. Wide range of marginal change from 33% to 24%.

Not sure about your country but where I live that is a big chunk of people.

[pilebuck13]

Bush bailed out the banks, Obama bailed out the car companies. Either party claiming to be deficit hawks is a joke.

Agreed what do you think will happen Tuesday? I'm thinking trump team e mails will be leaked

[d2bets]

Not sure about your country but where I live that is a big chunk of people.

OK. I wasn't making a value judgment. Just stating a fact.

[khicks26]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mp-republicans

Not only does he warn that the tax bill currently being rushed through Congress will hugely increase already large disparities between rich and poor, he accuses Trump and his party of consciously distorting the shape of American society in a “bid to become the most unequal society in the world”.

In his most stark message, Alston warns that the Republicans’ declared intent to slash crucial welfare programs next year in order to pay for some of the $1.5tn tax cuts could cost American lives.

Alston is also scathing about the attitudes of some of the politicians and officials he met on his tour, who subscribe to what he calls the caricature of rich people as industrious and entrepreneurial and poor people as “wasters, losers and scammers”.


that last one sounds a lot like some of the scam on this forum

Inequality in the world today has not been this bad since the time of pharaohs.

Trumps Tax Plan is really a 6 trillion dollar tax cut for those at the top & corporations. They say its only 1.5 trillion because 4.5 trillion it going to be made up by transferring that tax burden to the poor & middle class.

Right now in America close to half the population makes 30K a year or less. So yes this will cost lives. Of course the rich call the poor losers. They have to make people feel that its their own fault for being poor, when its the system of neoliberal economics that fuels the inequality.

Yes by the replies you got to this post. It does sound like some on this forum. Those people will not feel different until it affects them personally.

The empire is failing, all the signs are there. This tax plan is just another sign.

[Andy117]

lol democrats now deficit hawks

The only party that cares about the deficit is the party that's not in power.

[rkelly110]

Bush bailed out the banks, Obama bailed out the car companies. Either party claiming to be deficit hawks is a joke.

So did Obama but, those bailouts were loans to be paid back with interest. We made money compared to a
giveaway (corp welfare) tax cut.

[JIBBBY]

The only party that cares about the deficit is the party that's not in power.

Right, Obama really trimmed that national debt down when he was president for 8 years.. He handed off 17 trillion to Trump.. Thank you very much..

Let's see what Trump can do after 8 years... I think he is very aware of the National Debt and doesn't like it.. America needs shit done though because Obama left it in shambles, money needs to be spent right now.. Like with our depleted Military that Obama let go to shiiiiiit..

Trump inherited a mess from the stupid Democrats... Destroyed our Country... Our roads and bridges need fixing next.. Obama handed off that to Trump too!! ...

Libs and Dems suck for this Country right now, we need to rebuild!!!!

[grease lightnin]

Bush bailed out the banks, Obama bailed out the car companies. Either party claiming to be deficit hawks is a joke.

Yea well look at the deficit reduction after the sequester in 2013

42% reduction. Largest since the 60’s.

Hilarious that the GOP is always talking small gov, spending cuts etc.

But all they do is cut revenue. They do not cut spending. They increase it and then don’t pay for it.

You guys are fools for voting them in unless you make a healthy six figure income.

I am probably one of the only posters significantly benefitting from this tax cut and I still don’t like it.

Not good for the long term to add stimulus to an already healthy economy at the later end of the cycle.

And NOT PAY FOR IT.

[jayfly]

Right, Obama really trimmed that national debt down when he was president for 8 years.. He handed off 17 trillion to Trump.. Thank you very much..

Let's see what Trump can do after 8 years... I think he is very aware of the National Debt and doesn't like it.. America needs shit done though because Obama left it in shambles, money needs to be spent right now.. Like with our depleted Military that Obama let go to shiiiiiit..

Trump inherited a mess from the stupid Democrats... Destroyed our Country... Our roads and bridges need fixing next.. Obama handed off that to Trump too!!

But no mention of the mess that Obama inherited from Bush and and how much he had to spend to dig us out of that canyon lol. Clueless idiot.

[DwightShrute]

[RoyBacon]

Inequality in the world today has not been this bad since the time of pharaohs.

Could of sworn Obama was in office for 8 years & Trump hasn't even passed tax reform. Since the pharaohs Ah-hahaha! great laugh

[JIBBBY]

But no mention of the mess that Obama inherited from Bush and and how much he had to spend to dig us out of that canyon lol. Clueless idiot.

Obama inherited a recession that's for sure.. I wasn't happy with Bush Jr either..

I voted for Obama first term and he delivered.. Everything else he let go to shit then after.. Obama became weak and lazy, I didn't vote for Obama in his second term.. He then let America got to crap and just cruised thru his 2nd term watching...

I wasn't politically blind then and I'm not now.... Get a clue and open your damn eyes.. MAGA!!!! Trump is on it.. Senate is not yet but coming around slowly....

[guitarjosh]

So did Obama but, those bailouts were loans to be paid back with interest. We made money compared to a
giveaway (corp welfare) tax cut.

Actually the bank bailouts were loans too. The difference is that we actually made money with the bank loans, we lost money on the car loans.

[brooks85]

The only party that cares about the deficit is the party that's not in power.

what a stupid post but that's andy for you, same guy who will lie about a quote lol

[brooks85]

So did Obama but, those bailouts were loans to be paid back with interest. We made money compared to a
giveaway (corp welfare) tax cut.

lol obama the guy who double the nation's debt with nothing to show for it. Same guy who had a joke of a budget planned his last yea, 5% increase in spending and nothing to show for it. Doubled the nations debt and nothing to show for it.

remember the obama tax cuts? Idiotsl like rkelly and grease fall for that shit.

[grease lightnin]

Here comes a worthless reply to my post from brooks in 3...2...1

[brooks85]

^lol grease proving again he can never get anything right


you know what trends are yet grease?

[Plaza23]

Could of sworn Obama was in office for 8 years & Trump hasn't even passed tax reform. Since the pharaohs Ah-hahaha! great laugh

The concept of "income inequality" does not even make any sense anyway. If you achieve a lot, then you'll get paid more. If you don't, you won't.

And I think the poor people in the US will be ok. Most have Iphones. They get their medicaid, food stamps, section 8. How much more free stuff do you want to give people who don't work for it? US already has a progressive tax system. How much more should the "wealthy" pay?

I want people who earn what they earn, to keep it. Don't give it to the govt. Keep the middleman out.

[Jayvegas420]

The majority of your country is comprised of people like Roy, Brooks, Dwight, jibby & plaza. We learned this last Nov.
You can't pretend that you are surprised as your country becomes more hateful & more divided.

Gotta love guns or hate 'em
Gotta want tax breaks for the rich or no tax breaks at all.
Gotta love Jesus or deny him.

Theres no middle ground anymore.
Youre right or your left....youre Libtard or Trumptard.

Can't compromise anymore.

And why should you? You put a buffoon in the White House who doesn't feel he has to compromise anything except the office he was elected to.

[Plaza23]

Gotta want tax breaks for the rich or no tax breaks at all.
.

Tax Breaks for ALL...EVERYONE's RATE IS DROPPING.

Just stay in Canada with your shitty socialist healthcare. America is transitioning into once again a dominant economic/military superpower, and we will be very prosperous because we finally have a businessman in the White House that knows how the REAL WORLD really works.

[Jayvegas420]

It must be eating away at you that tax rates are dropping for Blacks, Libtards, Mexicans & Muslims.
The funny thing is, some of the people who will directly and most prominently benefit from these absurd new tax laws, are people like Hillary and Obama. And I know that that's got to be killing you

Enjoy your free $1000.

For a far right Republican, you sure don't seem to have any issues with corporate welfare

[brooks85]

The majority of your country is comprised of people like Roy, Brooks, Dwight, jibby & plaza. We learned this last Nov.
You can't pretend that you are surprised as your country becomes more hateful & more divided.

Gotta love guns or hate 'em
Gotta want tax breaks for the rich or no tax breaks at all.
Gotta love Jesus or deny him.

Theres no middle ground anymore.
Youre right or your left....youre Libtard or Trumptard.

Can't compromise anymore.

And why should you? You put a buffoon in the White House who doesn't feel he has to compromise anything except the office he was elected to.

oh good the admitted idiot who can't remember anything is giving his worthless opinion. Thanks for the clown show jay!

[jtoler]

America is transitioning into once again a dominant economic/military superpower, and we will be very prosperous because we finally have a businessman in the White House that knows how the REAL WORLD really works.

lol

[khicks26]

Could of sworn Obama was in office for 8 years & Trump hasn't even passed tax reform. Since the pharaohs Ah-hahaha! great laugh

Serious shit my brother, talking about the whole world. Not just the US.

[Thor4140]

Right, Obama really trimmed that national debt down when he was president for 8 years.. He handed off 17 trillion to Trump.. Thank you very much..

Let's see what Trump can do after 8 years... I think he is very aware of the National Debt and doesn't like it.. America needs shit done though because Obama left it in shambles, money needs to be spent right now.. Like with our depleted Military that Obama let go to shiiiiiit..

Trump inherited a mess from the stupid Democrats... Destroyed our Country... Our roads and bridges need fixing next.. Obama handed off that to Trump too!! ...

Libs and Dems suck for this Country right now, we need to rebuild!!!!

Yep Jibby a guy who went bankrupt multiple times stiffing people all over the country and now is a deficit hawk. Were the fuk do u come up with this bullshit. Why in fuk would he care what the debt is gonna look like. The guy has been notorious for not paying his bills and all the sudden he is going have a conscience lol. He is the biggest stiff artist that has every become president in all of our lifetimes.

[Thor4140]

It must be eating away at you that tax rates are dropping for Blacks, Libtards, Mexicans & Muslims.
The funny thing is, some of the people who will directly and most prominently benefit from these absurd new tax laws, are people like Hillary and Obama. And I know that that's got to be killing you

Enjoy your free $1000.

For a far right Republican, you sure don't seem to have any issues with corporate welfare

And Dwight doubles down on his post. A guy who isn't even living here or is American lol.

[Thor4140]

The majority of your country is comprised of people like Roy, Brooks, Dwight, jibby & plaza. We learned this last Nov.
You can't pretend that you are surprised as your country becomes more hateful & more divided.

Gotta love guns or hate 'em
Gotta want tax breaks for the rich or no tax breaks at all.
Gotta love Jesus or deny him.

Theres no middle ground anymore.
Youre right or your left....youre Libtard or Trumptard.

Can't compromise anymore.

And why should you? You put a buffoon in the White House who doesn't feel he has to compromise anything except the office he was elected to.

How do u have a middle ground with Hillbilly ideas that don't work and have proven to not work over and over again? Do i just bite my lip and join their side just to have common ground? When u figure out how to bring some common sense to these far right asshats with nickle pocket books, than maybe we can all get along.

[dlowilly]

So funny to watch idiots like Thor and Jayvegas try to form coherent posts and stay on the topic of the thread. It's like watching monkeys playing with a Rubix Cube

[jtoler]

So funny to watch idiots like Thor and Jayvegas try to form coherent posts and stay on the topic of the thread. It's like watching monkeys playing with a Rubix Cube

2 of the best here, what gives.

[JIBBBY]

Yep Jibby a guy who went bankrupt multiple times stiffing people all over the country and now is a deficit hawk. Were the fuk do u come up with this bullshit. Why in fuk would he care what the debt is gonna look like. The guy has been notorious for not paying his bills and all the sudden he is going have a conscience lol. He is the biggest stiff artist that has every become president in all of our lifetimes.

Come on Thor keep an open mind.. You know all Trump does is work for the economy, businesses and jobs right now.. That's why the economy is doing so well now.. That's keeping it real....

I think Trump will work on the deficit in his second term if he is re-elected and or doesn't stroke out or drop dead from a heart attack.... Republicans don't like our deficit trust me.. Gotta spend right now, our infrastructure, military and other things all need attention right now..

MAGA!!!

[DwightShrute]

Come on Thor keep an open mind.. You know all Trump does is work for the economy, businesses and jobs right now.. That's why the economy is doing so well now.. That's keeping it real....

I think Trump will work on the deficit in his second term if he is re-elected and or doesn't stroke out or drop dead from a heart attack.... Republicans don't like our deficit trust me.. Gotta spend right now, our infrastructure, military and other things all need attention right now..

MAGA!!!

Thor is a brilliant mind. Almost God-like.

[rkelly110]

Thor keeping it real, but it's like talking to a brick wall.

[JIBBBY]

Thor keeping it real, but it's like talking to a brick wall.

Did you say brick wall RK?

Trumps on it..... Build it!!!!!