1. 01-16-18 12:09 AM #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I truly believe if Belichick didn't have Brady.... he might retire. He wouldn't be successful without him. A good coach? Yes. Not a Championship coach.

    Belichick and Brady just have an amazing chemistry... won't ever be duplicated.
    he won 11 games with Matt Cassell man... went 3-1 last year with Garraps, Jacoby Brissett. Also helps when the Dynasty gets to play the Jets, Bills and Dolphins twice a year respectively.

    Look at the way his defenses have not only been effective, but dominated some of the greatest offenses ever (Bills against eh giants when he was DC, Rams in 01, eagles in 04)....
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  2. 01-16-18 09:43 AM #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I truly believe if Belichick didn't have Brady.... he might retire. He wouldn't be successful without him. A good coach? Yes. Not a Championship coach.

    Belichick and Brady just have an amazing chemistry... won't ever be duplicated.
    Amazing perspective. Belichick is the most important piece to any team in the history of sports.
    The dynasty, in this day and age, where every single rule ( $$/Draft/Schedule) is set up for parity will never be duplicated.
    BB is the most copied, duplicated and respected coach of the last 20 years.
    Today in his mid 60s, his trade value would be incalculable.
    It would start at 3 first rounders and go up from there.
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  3. 01-20-18 10:22 PM #143
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    The Patriots are going to walk into a buzzsaw tomorrow.

    Hope you get your rest tonight, Tommy.
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  4. 01-20-18 10:40 PM #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    The Patriots are going to walk into a buzzsaw tomorrow.

    Hope you get your rest tonight, Tommy.
    agreed...with or without the injured hand...won't make a bit of difference...Jacksonville will give the Pats all they can handle...maybe not win the game outright (but I wouldn't be the least surprised if they did) but at least cover the spread...
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  5. 01-20-18 11:07 PM #145
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    Jagz offense sucks!! Don’t let that Pittsburgh game foo you
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    Amazing perspective. Belichick is the most important piece to any team in the history of sports.
    The dynasty, in this day and age, where every single rule ( $$/Draft/Schedule) is set up for parity will never be duplicated.
    BB is the most copied, duplicated and respected coach of the last 20 years.
    Today in his mid 60s, his trade value would be incalculable.
    It would start at 3 first rounders and go up from there.
    I bet if Pittsburgh and New England switch coaches !! Big Ben have more super bowls then Tom Brady
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  7. 01-20-18 11:14 PM #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    I bet if Pittsburgh and New England switch coaches !! Big Ben have more super bowls then Tom Brady
    Ok, that’s not even worthy of a response, and yet here it is. You’re nuts!
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  8. 01-20-18 11:15 PM #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    Amazing perspective. Belichick is the most important piece to any team in the history of sports.
    The dynasty, in this day and age, where every single rule ( $$/Draft/Schedule) is set up for parity will never be duplicated.
    BB is the most copied, duplicated and respected coach of the last 20 years.
    Today in his mid 60s, his trade value would be incalculable.
    It would start at 3 first rounders and go up from there.
    I'm not knocking the New England Patriots organization. I'm just saying... I'd like to see Belichick's coaching stats without Tom Brady throughout all of these years... 1 Championship? Yes. 2 Championships? I'm skeptical.

    I think Brady has more value than Belichick.

    Yes, you need defense and coaching to finalize a Championship... but Brady is a difference maker. The guy is like a robot QB out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    he won 11 games with Matt Cassell man... went 3-1 last year with Garraps, Jacoby Brissett. Also helps when the Dynasty gets to play the Jets, Bills and Dolphins twice a year respectively.

    Look at the way his defenses have not only been effective, but dominated some of the greatest offenses ever (Bills against eh giants when he was DC, Rams in 01, eagles in 04)....
    helped that he knew their plays
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Jagz offense sucks!! Don’t let that Pittsburgh game foo you
    the Jags were #6 in the NFL in total offense....they were #4 in the NFL in scoring offense at 26.1 points per game...but other than that, you are right...their offense sucks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    Ok, that’s not even worthy of a response, and yet here it is. You’re nuts!
    I don't think it's that nuts.

    Pittsburgh would obviously get better, and New England would obviously get a little worse.

    And they are pretty close as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    the Jags were #6 in the NFL in total offense....they were #4 in the NFL in scoring offense at 26.1 points per game...but other than that, you are right...their offense sucks...
    They just have to pound those two running backs down New England's throat, and keep Bortles out of third and long situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    Ok, that’s not even worthy of a response, and yet here it is. You’re nuts!
    Come on? The hoodie is the best coach ever !! 16 years of consistent winning- not just coaching but he manage the salary cap
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  14. 01-20-18 11:25 PM #154
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    Switch Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady - see how many rings Tom Brady wins with green bay
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  15. 01-20-18 11:27 PM #155
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    Robert Kraft should've let Belichick trade Brady.

    They are going to rue the day they got rid of Jimmy G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I don't think it's that nuts.

    Pittsburgh would obviously get better, and New England would obviously get a little worse.

    And they are pretty close as it is.
    mike Tomlin is awful!! If you go by talent? Pittsburgh have more talent then New England
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Robert Kraft should've let Belichick trade Brady.

    They are going to rue the day they got rid of Jimmy G.
    I believe jimmy g torch the jagz defense
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    mike Tomlin is awful!! If you go by talent? Pittsburgh have more talent then New England
    If New England and Pittsburgh traded coaches, Big Ben would have probably six Super Bowls. Tom Brady about two, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    They just have to pound those two running backs down New England's throat, and keep Bortles out of third and long situations.
    not to mention keeping the chains moving, the clock rolling, and keeping Mr. Brady and company on the sidelines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    I believe jimmy g torch the jagz defense
    Meaningless game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    not to mention keeping the chains moving and the clock rolling and keeping Mr. Brady and company on the sidelines...
    I just hope one of our defensive linemen take a nice little jab at Brady's hand.

    You know, in the scrum, maybe pull a finger off or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    If New England and Pittsburgh traded coaches, Big Ben would have probably six Super Bowls. Tom Brady about two, maybe.
    Agree- we’ll im a 49er fan!! Thank New England for jimmy g!! Dudes legit
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  23. 01-20-18 11:47 PM #163
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    Giant go to bed...my fukin heads spinning to many college games on Saturday fuk
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  24. 01-21-18 12:02 AM #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    I bet if Pittsburgh and New England switch coaches !! Big Ben have more super bowls then Tom Brady
    No doubt. Tomlin's boneheaded decisions have cost Pitt dearly.
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  25. 01-21-18 12:08 AM #165
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    For some reason I thought Lakerboy made this thread
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  26. 01-21-18 12:08 AM #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Agree- we’ll im a 49er fan!! Thank New England for jimmy g!! Dudes legit
    Ninaz!
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  27. 01-21-18 09:51 AM #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    I believe jimmy g torch the jagz defense
    Jimmy G vs Jax

    21/30 242pass yards 2td/1int

    Not really a torch..

    Idiots look at scoreboards, intelligent people look at the statistics
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  28. 01-21-18 09:57 AM #168
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    I think the Jags have the type of defense that will bother Brady, they get at the qb, and defend the pass well.. Big Ben DID torch the Jags D, with a receiver that NE does not have.. Unfortunately, i agree with the posters saying that Belicheck is the best coach ever, and he will adjust accordingly.. one of their running backs will go crazy as always, and NE will win this game.. I think NE will spend most of the game covering, im just afraid of the backdoor cover
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