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    But to be fair this means nothing "prominent" lol "sources" at least you hear it from the gooses mouth and multiple other outlets covered it not saying it's true or not but you dont no either and that line right there is pretty much the same thing your questioning lol








    Quote Originally Posted by blackbart View Post
    The South Point was only one of the books that took big bets from this particular bettor on the Dodgers on Game 6.
    Based on what sources told VSiN senior editor Matt Youmans, here was the breakdown of roughly $3.1M: MGM $1M; CG Tech $600,000; Wynn $600,000; William Hill $500,000; South Point $350,000; Westgate $50,000.
    One prominent Las Vegas sports book director called reports of a much higher bet ``fake news.’’
    ``Those I spoke to around town say the numbers are very, very inflated,’’ said the director, who requested anonymity. ``I do know he’s (the bettor) is undefeated, but the numbers aren’t close to what is out there.’’

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    so you are questioning actual facts by a respected reporter and believe
    rumors

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    so you are questioning actual facts by a respected reporter and believe
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    Andrews explains temporary Game 6 money line anomaly at South Point

    Jeff Fogle
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    November 1, 2017 02:37 PM


    For several minutes during game-day betting in advance of Game 6 of the World Series Tuesday, there was a temporary money line anomaly at the South Point sportsbook showing the Los Angeles Dodgers favored in the vicinity of -140 to -150, while the Houston Astros’ underdog return was plus 115.
    South Point sportsbook director Chris Andrews tells VSiN that a bettor was placing large bets at 7-cent intervals in the process of making a large overall investment in the Los Angeles Dodgers to win the game. The process was agreed to by the bettor, who understood that sports books have limits on bet sizes before they lift prices and allow another large bet.
    At the same time, a line move up to Houston 115 had attracted aggressive sharp betting on the app and at the counters on the Astros. That was an apparent trigger point for bettors wanting to invest in the underdog and highly regarded pitcher Justin Verlander. The South Point was flooded, in terms of real dollars, simultaneously on both sides of the game at those prices.
    Andrews said:
    "As a bookmaker, it's my job to put my employer in the best position. If we temporarily have one person making big bets on the favorite at 7-cent intervals on one counter, but several sharps on our app or at a different counter coming in hard on the underdog at 115, I'm going to finish serving the big bettors requests as responsibly as I can, then re-position my lines once the dust has settled.
    "We were back to a 10-cent split very soon after everything had calmed down. A matter of minutes.
    "In essence, during a flood of big bets…on a day that shattered the record for the largest one-game baseball handle…we were serving a customer while taking care of customers on the other side. We weren't forcing lines on anybody. All of the bettors on BOTH sides were satisfied with the lines they were getting at that moment, or they wouldn't have been placing those bets."
    The South Point was only one of the books that took big bets from this particular bettor on the Dodgers on Game 6.
    Based on what sources told VSiN senior editor Matt Youmans, here was the breakdown of roughly $3.1M: MGM $1M; CG Tech $600,000; Wynn $600,000; William Hill $500,000; South Point $350,000; Westgate $50,000.
    One prominent Las Vegas sports book director called reports of a much higher bet ``fake news.’’
    ``Those I spoke to around town say the numbers are very, very inflated,’’ said the director, who requested anonymity. ``I do know he’s (the bettor) is undefeated, but the numbers aren’t close to what is out there.’’

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    Was longer then 2 minutes try 30 minutes and why you so pumped about it anyway why you so jealous lol is it your money if he wins or loses? Like i said we dont no so who gives a shit you think they are gonna tell some kid reporter anything lol weather you believe or dont believe or like or dont like RJ he is actually a someone in the betting world. Nobody knows for sure weather it is or isn't period.






    Quote Originally Posted by blackbart View Post
    Andrews explains temporary Game 6 money line anomaly at South Point

    Jeff Fogle
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    November 1, 2017 02:37 PM


    For several minutes during game-day betting in advance of Game 6 of the World Series Tuesday, there was a temporary money line anomaly at the South Point sportsbook showing the Los Angeles Dodgers favored in the vicinity of -140 to -150, while the Houston Astros’ underdog return was plus 115.
    South Point sportsbook director Chris Andrews tells VSiN that a bettor was placing large bets at 7-cent intervals in the process of making a large overall investment in the Los Angeles Dodgers to win the game. The process was agreed to by the bettor, who understood that sports books have limits on bet sizes before they lift prices and allow another large bet.
    At the same time, a line move up to Houston 115 had attracted aggressive sharp betting on the app and at the counters on the Astros. That was an apparent trigger point for bettors wanting to invest in the underdog and highly regarded pitcher Justin Verlander. The South Point was flooded, in terms of real dollars, simultaneously on both sides of the game at those prices.
    Andrews said:
    "As a bookmaker, it's my job to put my employer in the best position. If we temporarily have one person making big bets on the favorite at 7-cent intervals on one counter, but several sharps on our app or at a different counter coming in hard on the underdog at 115, I'm going to finish serving the big bettors requests as responsibly as I can, then re-position my lines once the dust has settled.
    "We were back to a 10-cent split very soon after everything had calmed down. A matter of minutes.
    "In essence, during a flood of big bets…on a day that shattered the record for the largest one-game baseball handle…we were serving a customer while taking care of customers on the other side. We weren't forcing lines on anybody. All of the bettors on BOTH sides were satisfied with the lines they were getting at that moment, or they wouldn't have been placing those bets."
    The South Point was only one of the books that took big bets from this particular bettor on the Dodgers on Game 6.
    Based on what sources told VSiN senior editor Matt Youmans, here was the breakdown of roughly $3.1M: MGM $1M; CG Tech $600,000; Wynn $600,000; William Hill $500,000; South Point $350,000; Westgate $50,000.
    One prominent Las Vegas sports book director called reports of a much higher bet ``fake news.’’
    ``Those I spoke to around town say the numbers are very, very inflated,’’ said the director, who requested anonymity. ``I do know he’s (the bettor) is undefeated, but the numbers aren’t close to what is out there.’’

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    Brent Musburger calling out RJ Bell on this story:

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    Gonna have to roll with Brent here i def trust him more.
    Quote Originally Posted by mrpapageorgio View Post
    Brent Musburger calling out RJ Bell on this story:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yo RJ Bell, VSIN exists because of bullshitters like you !! Maybe Deadspin was right!!</p>&mdash; Brent Musburger (@brentmusburger) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/brentmusburger/status/925953471244746752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> November 2, 2017</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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    what a dick move to raise the line every bet

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    what a dick move to raise the line every bet
    You hafta do it that way. If you let them bet the entire sum on actual correct line you would never get enough buy back. You would be siding yourself right off bat Casino's are wimps now they don't want to take risk. That is the give and take if you want to get down a enormous amount of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot81 View Post
    what a dick move to raise the line every bet


    That's how it works at any shop that lets you re-pop max limit bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post


    That's how it works at any shop that lets you re-pop max limit bets.
    so then it's a bad move for the player then , i don't understand if books will take a million dollar mayweather bet are they raising the odds on him each bet and this is a world series game and they won't take a big bet seems shady

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    also they said they moved the line before he even placed a bet that's messed up

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    i don't understand if books will take a million dollar mayweather bet are they raising the odds on him each bet
    Example his last fight all the early money was coming in on Conor McGregor most Casinos were sided and needed Mayweather money. So if a bettor came along that wanted to bet way over the limit since they needed that money to balance they took it , they did not make you take progressively worse line cause it was in there own best interest.

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    so if floyd walks in says i want 1 million on the cowboys money line, are they going to give him 1 bet of a million or they going to make him place 20 bets with odds changing each bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot81 View Post

    so then it's a bad move for the player then , i don't understand if books will take a million dollar mayweather bet are they raising the odds on him each bet and this is a world series game and they won't take a big bet seems shady
    I don't really know how Mayweather's betting works. But for the rest of us, if we want to get a million down say at Pinnacle. You can bet around 50k on a WS game then if they have your account flagged as 'sharp', the market would go offline and the the odds would adjust, or if it was a 'normal' account they might allow you to re-pop another 50k at the same odds before moving the line.

    Like the Westgate manager described, when this happens and the line moves a lot sharps will start buying the other side, effectively covering the risk of the big bet for them. If this didn't happen they could not take as much risk as they do. It's the normal trade off for the bettor wanting to bet the max limit multiple times.

    Anyway, we don't really need to worry about it being fair or not. The bettor would not keep making the bets if the price moved to a point he was unhappy with. Which I guess is what happened when he hit his max at each book. Rather than them stopping him betting more.

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    so if floyd walks in says i want 1 million on the cowboys money line, are they going to give him 1 bet of a million or they going to make him place 20 bets with odds changing each bet
    Ive seen rated players get NFL games over limit before without moving lines on em. If there a big loser at blackjack,slots, etc. Sunday-Monday night games are usually bet a lot more than the other games good match-up ive seen bets in the 200-300k range without making them take progressively worse line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't really know how Mayweather's betting works. But for the rest of us, if we want to get a million down say at Pinnacle. You can bet around 50k on a WS game then if they have your account flagged as 'sharp', the market would go offline and the the odds would adjust, or if it was a 'normal' account they might allow you to re-pop another 50k at the same odds before moving the line.

    Like the Westgate manager described, when this happens and the line moves a lot sharps will start buying the other side, effectively covering the risk of the big bet for them. If this didn't happen they could not take as much risk as they do. It's the normal trade off for the bettor wanting to bet the max limit multiple times.

    Anyway, we don't really need to worry about it being fair or not. The bettor would not keep making the bets if the price moved to a point he was unhappy with. Which I guess is what happened when he hit his max at each book. Rather than them stopping him betting more.
    cuz that guy was like penetrate it i know i'm going to win go ahead raise the line i don't give a rooster it's all coming back to me, i kind of like that giving a big FU to the book

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    but the article said books were raising the lines when he walked in that seems un ethical like if they knew a player only bets his fav team they change the line only for that guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot81 View Post

    cuz that guy was like penetrate it i know i'm going to win go ahead raise the line i don't give a rooster it's all coming back to me, i kind of like that giving a big FU to the book
    If that was how he thought and played, they probably would have moved the odds slowly as they expect him to lose long run and would want him to keep playing there.

    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot81 View Post
    but the article said books were raising the lines when he walked in that seems un ethical like if they knew a player only bets his fav team they change the line only for that guy
    If they moved both sides then I guess it's fair game. I don't know. If it's legal in Nevada then thats about as 'ethical' as you might get in this biz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't really know how Mayweather's betting works. But for the rest of us, if we want to get a million down say at Pinnacle. You can bet around 50k on a WS game then if they have your account flagged as 'sharp', the market would go offline and the the odds would adjust, or if it was a 'normal' account they might allow you to re-pop another 50k at the same odds before moving the line.

    Like the Westgate manager described, when this happens and the line moves a lot sharps will start buying the other side, effectively covering the risk of the big bet for them. If this didn't happen they could not take as much risk as they do. It's the normal trade off for the bettor wanting to bet the max limit multiple times.

    Anyway, we don't really need to worry about it being fair or not. The bettor would not keep making the bets if the price moved to a point he was unhappy with. Which I guess is what happened when he hit his max at each book. Rather than them stopping him betting more.
    if he let it ride on the f'n dodgers, I am quite certain he has reached an "unhappy point"....

    what a dope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post

    if he let it ride on the f'n dodgers, I am quite certain he has reached an "unhappy point"....

    what a dope
    He didn't bet game 7 apparently. It says above.

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    Im more concerned how Billy Watters was able to get his million dollar bets in during this mayham.

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    he bet game seven... and now he and JJ have to same amount of money post-series......

    Houston Astros.....

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    World FUKKIN' Champions!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofranos View Post
    Im more concerned how Billy Watters was able to get his million dollar bets in during this mayham.

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    WHAT does $14 milllion goin' up in smoke look like??????


    this:


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    He didn't bet it donk and tbh i dont even no if was real after brent's tweet... Congrats though Astros deserved it they played there ass off all season.

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    sherwood Retweeted Brent Musburger‏Verified account @brentmusburger 14h14 hours ago






    Yo RJ Bell, VSIN exists because of bullshitters like you !! Maybe Deadspin was right!!

    80 replies 248 retweets 732 likes

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    I no seen this last night lol

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbart View Post
    sherwood Retweeted Brent Musburger‏Verified account @brentmusburger 14h14 hours ago






    Yo RJ Bell, VSIN exists because of bullshitters like you !! Maybe Deadspin was right!!

    80 replies 248 retweets 732 likes

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot81 View Post
    so then it's a bad move for the player then , i don't understand if books will take a million dollar mayweather bet are they raising the odds on him each bet and this is a world series game and they won't take a big bet seems shady
    You don't seem to understand how betting limits work.

    RJ Bell is a con artist and anyone who takes anything he says or types as facts needs their head examined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofranos View Post
    Im more concerned how Billy Watters was able to get his million dollar bets in during this mayham.
    Is that Ricky Watters' brother?

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