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    Betting At Pinny Basically The Same As Matchbook (thread from '05)

    Way higher limits at Pinny and long term Pinny beats their numbers

    Why go through hassle at Matchbook?

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    I haven't tried Matchbook yet but I can offer an answer. Looking at the SBR Odds up above, it took me about 3 seconds to find 4 instances where Matchbook has a better line than Pinny - even counting the Matchbook commision.

    Sharp players these days shop for the best line.

    Big high limits are only important to a small percentage of players.

    And Matchbook probably isn't much of a hassle. You have probably blown that way out-of proportion in your mind. I bet it's incredibly easy.

    So there are some thoughts on the topic.

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    Mudder the big difference is money available

    Pinny you can get more down on the number

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    JJ - Matchbook is no hassle. Admittedly I've not used it but I use Betfair/mansion a lot - exchanges are simple. As Mudcat said, the prices beat Pinny hands down more often than not - sharp players want this. In fact any player should want this - why back at -140 at Pinny when you can back at -138 at Matchbook. It's not a lot of difference, but it sure does add up over a season.

    As to the limits, you're right - Pinny wins every time. But Matchbook is going to be a better option for the vast majority of players who are never going to reach any limits.

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    I use matchbook quite regularily.

    They also have live wagering if you are
    into it. Granted I probably wager less
    than you guys.

    But I usually find a line daily at Matchbook that
    I prefer to Pinnacle or Mansion.

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    I will see how book develops and maybe post up there

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    Without the hassles I am guessing.

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    I am proud to announce that Matchbook.com is now available to all punters in EUR, GBP, CDN, HKD in addition to USD.

    This has been a wildly anticipated release and we expect it to further stimulate our growth and liquidity. Matchbook is quickly becoming a viable, liquid, lower commission, no premium-charge betting exchange the industry desperately needs. In addition, to industry leading liquidity in NBA, NHL, NFL and MLB liquidity Matchbook now offers highly liquid Soccer, Tennis and Rugby markets.

    For any existing customers who wish to change their existing account to one of our new currencies please contact info@matchbook.com and provide your username and desired currency. Currency transfers will be processed at the XE rate, calculated at 9am GMT on the day of the transfer. After 31st March, 2012, transfers will incur a 1% foreign exchange fee.

    To celebrate this release Matchbook is offering free Moneybookers and Neteller deposits until the end of March and March Madness.

    If you don't already have an account please sign up and join the revolution! For those who do, thank you for playing at Matchbook.

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    Mike get back in the usa market if you want business to boom
    Do it only on the credit side

    Pinny does it

    Common man

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Way higher limits at Pinny and long term Pinny beats their numbers

    Why go through hassle at Matchbook?
    Sure, if you are betting in tens of thousands Pinnacle is more likely to be the better option but even then you can still get several thousand down at better odds at the exchange.

    But for most of us Matchbook DOES offer better odds (net of commission) for several thousand on almost every market and I prove it by betting there almost every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I will see how book develops and maybe post up there
    JJ just bashes all books that do not pay sbr money to advertise here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    JJ just bashes all books that do not pay sbr money to advertise here.
    sure I've seen a Matchbook banner on this site not so long ago?

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    this thread is 7 years old

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    Pinnacle is light years ahead of Matchbook

    Pinny an A+
    Matchbook C+

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Pinnacle is light years ahead of Matchbook

    Pinny an A+
    Matchbook C+
    why do you keep going on with negative posts about Matchbook?

    everyone knows that OVERALL Pinnacle has far more to offer than Matchbook, as does Betfair but for US pro. sports pre-game Matchbook beats Pinnacle in almost every market for up to $5k at least.

    If you bet on a variety of sports and could have only one account then yes Pinnacle it would have to be over Matchbook, though personally I'd chose Betfair because of my range of betting.

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    Matchbook consistently has better tennis odds than pinnacle and the money available is consistently more than pinnacle limits, at least until final stages of tournaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrowhine View Post
    Matchbook consistently has better tennis odds than pinnacle and the money available is consistently more than pinnacle limits, at least until final stages of tournaments.
    I also have found this to be the case. I recently opened up an account at Matchbook and have to say the prices were way better. I really like the new site too I think it is very clean and fresh. Looks like I have joined at the right time so I have already sent in my request for a GBP account.

    Bartolli in the WTA Tennis event tonight is -232 at MB and -236 at pinny and if I had enough funds I could have $3500 on Bartolli to win . Betfair are offering -227 but only have a measly $159 up on same selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxcutter View Post
    I also have found this to be the case. I recently opened up an account at Matchbook and have to say the prices were way better. I really like the new site too I think it is very clean and fresh. Looks like I have joined at the right time so I have already sent in my request for a GBP account.

    Bartolli in the WTA Tennis event tonight is -232 at MB and -236 at pinny and if I had enough funds I could have $3500 on Bartolli to win . Betfair are offering -227 but only have a measly $159 up on same selection.
    Actually after factoring in commission (win or lose) I think you'll find that there's bugger all in that particular price differential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    Actually after factoring in commission (win or lose) I think you'll find that there's bugger all in that particular price differential.
    Lol, Cheers fella was trying to sound smart up against you lads with thousands of posts guess that means that Matchbook is just as competitive then if not better in certain spots.

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    Betfair is a live betting site not a pre game betting site
    You will not find lots of volume pre game

    During game one tennis event gets more action than matchbook does in 1 month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    I'd chose Betfair
    The sock puppet shilling, continues!

    Lets see how angry he gets, because he is guilty.

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    Compare matchbook and betfair advertising dpts

    game over

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    Pinny doesn't even have a phone

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettels View Post
    The sock puppet shilling, continues!

    Lets see how angry he gets, because he is guilty.
    Now that is both insulting and a damned lie.

    I am perfectly entitled to take exception to such.

    About half my betting turnover is on racing. Let me know when Pinnacle offers betting on all Australian races will ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettels View Post
    Pinny doesn't even have a phone
    So?

    I've been using them for a decade and never found the necessity to 'phone them.
    They are excellent email responders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Betfair is a live betting site not a pre game betting site
    You will not find lots of volume pre game

    During game one tennis event gets more action than matchbook does in 1 month
    Well obviously I'm doing something very wrong.

    A large percentage of my betting turnover is at Betfair but I rarely ever bet on live events.

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    Hareeba you must not be betting big then

    Even tennis which is a high volume betfair sport does not have much pre game volume

    Pinnacle guaranteed 5k volume no matter what time at a low juice line

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Hareeba you must not be betting big then

    Even tennis which is a high volume betfair sport does not have much pre game volume

    Pinnacle guaranteed 5k volume no matter what time at a low juice line
    What's "big" in your language?

    Where have I ever claimed to be a big punter?

    That is absolute and utter crap about Pinnacle if you're talking about tennis. Early odds are only available for $250.

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    5 star thread.

    Hi Mudcat.

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    Pinny takes 90% of my action... I love it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    Pinny takes 90% of my action... I love it there.
    what do you bet on?

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    The big difference is that you will never be able to get money down on early lines at MB...
    ppl like Hareeba keep bombarding us with their "better odds pre-game" shit, and never mention that this is on settled in markets ONLY LOSERS bet into. But ofc he doesn't care, since his air-bet units are payed by matchbook.

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    Who bumped this crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    The big difference is that you will never be able to get money down on early lines at MB...
    ppl like Hareeba keep bombarding us with their "better odds pre-game" shit, and never mention that this is on settled in markets ONLY LOSERS bet into. But ofc he doesn't care, since his air-bet units are payed by matchbook.
    more clueless negativity

    all I've been doing is comparing MB with other books at the same time

    early markets aren't always the best

    you think I'm so stupid as to be betting when the prime odds are well and truly gone?

    if you were right my MB withdrawals + current balance wouldn't exceed my deposits would they?

    WRONG WRONG WRONG yet again Mr Negative

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    Hareeba will you admit matchbook is not an exchange??

    The book puts money on both sides and the players bet the line posted

    Has owner admitted almost all money is seeded???

    Also so many games have the same money matched all the time meaning no one betting it

    In a real exchange different amounts available at all different times

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