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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSchafe View Post
    All these guys go from barreled in to millionaires and back to barreled in several times a year. Lots of hair dye in Bobby's Room...you'll go all gray in less than a day.
    all trash people too, thieves and cons

    A few guys that make good endorsement money are why they have a few bucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    all trash people too, thieves and cons

    A few guys that make good endorsement money are why they have a few bucks
    You really need to give it a rest with all of this "all poker pros are broke and only make money on endorsements".

    That is simply not true. I'm pretty sure Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu, Doyle Brunson and Phil Helmuth have not went broke playing poker. They are long time proven winners.

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    That's right Coach...Negreanu one of the only clean ones. Ivey Gus Hansen a lot of guys scumbags and criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSchafe View Post
    That's right Coach...Negreanu one of the only clean ones. Ivey Gus Hansen a lot of guys scumbags and criminals.

    yes he is ok..

    Ivy owes tons of money to people and banks
    mega compulsive gambler

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    yes he is ok..

    Ivy owes tons of money to people and banks
    mega compulsive gambler

    LOL! Ivey just won the Maccau high-roller short deck event a month ago. You are clueless when it comes to poker. Stick to offshore where they print your paystubs chap

    You cant fool an east coast guy like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    LOL! Ivey just won the Maccau high-roller short deck event a month ago. You are clueless when it comes to poker. Stick to offshore where they print your paystubs chap

    You cant fool an east coast guy like me
    jj wants people betting on sports and not poker

    WHY?

    well because this is SPORTSBOOKREVIEW not POKERREVIEW

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    jj wants people betting on sports and not poker

    WHY?

    well because this is SPORTSBOOKREVIEW not POKERREVIEW

    Widely known he's on a 60/40 (red) with 5Slimes and a half book with BOL.....Slow season and legal wagering busting up his bankroll. That said, he's prob worth it for the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    Widely known he's on a 60/40 (red) with 5Slimes and a half book with BOL.....Slow season and legal wagering busting up his bankroll. That said, he's prob worth it for the books.
    where did rebate wager go?????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    Widely known he's on a 60/40 (red) with 5Slimes and a half book with BOL.....Slow season and legal wagering busting up his bankroll. That said, he's prob worth it for the books.
    sweep doesnt matter hiw many tourneys ivey wins.... he does owe out alot of money...

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    I respect Sweep's opinion here. But we'd like to see more factual details.

    Ivey's poker game is respected. That's a fact. Truth is that poker is a YOUNG MAN'S game. Youth have more energy + more capacity to learn. The young pass the old by in poker.

    Ivey has gamble to him. He used to blow $$ on craps etc. Would love to hear what his REAL balance sheet is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    sweep doesnt matter hiw many tourneys ivey wins.... he does owe out alot of money...

    Who does he owe money too and provide proof. Thanks.

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    Ivey is in massive debt

    He does not have that massive yearly income coming in like real athletes do and loses 100'ks a pop playing at casinos

    Do the math=BROKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Ivey is in massive debt

    He does not have that massive yearly income coming in like real athletes do and loses 100'ks a pop playing at casinos

    Do the math=BROKE
    Link?

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    he stole so much from full tilt along with most of those clowns

    ofcourse hes ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Ivey is in massive debt

    He does not have that massive yearly income coming in like real athletes do and loses 100'ks a pop playing at casinos

    Do the math=BROKE
    Buick still sponsors him and pokers been dead for a decade, waiting on your proof he is broke

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    Had to look it up, sweep, because I thought he was too.

    However, Phil Ivey being broke was a rumor started by Dan Bilzerian last year after Ivey lost that $19 million in that casino "cheating vs. edge-sorting" lawsuit. Ivey responded by getting on a plane to Australia, buying into the Aussie Millions high-roller $250k buy-in...and then won the tournament for 4 mil AUD. Guy is a silent assassin in all aspects of life. Nobody knows in the slightest what his bankroll looks like, but he sure isn't broke. Made Bilzerian look like a clown by actions, not words. Props to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    all trash people too, thieves and cons

    A few guys that make good endorsement money are why they have a few bucks
    Daniel Negreanu is the only professional player I know of off-hand that consistently is in the black year after year. He may not win a lot of bracelets, but he's always ITM.

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    I loved when chris moneymaker eliminated young Ivey from wsop. To the ivey fans...he reads opponents very very well. He also was very much dirty in the full tilt poker fiasco

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    Ivey finished 9th in this tourny.............





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    Final table a $50k event only to net $61k before taxes .......He's playing for prestige, not cause he's broke

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    Final table a $50k event only to net $61k before taxes .......He's playing for prestige, not cause he's broke
    or he is getting staked and keeps only a percentage of the money which from that only pockets change because he owes out a lot of money.

    I can't name people because i don't know. From what i hear the rumors are true. Believe what you want to believe at the end of the day if he has 200 mill or 2 mill doesn't make a diff to either of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    or he is getting staked and keeps only a percentage of the money which from that only pockets change because he owes out a lot of money.

    I can't name people because i don't know. From what i hear the rumors are true. Believe what you want to believe at the end of the day if he has 200 mill or 2 mill doesn't make a diff to either of us.
    Seems like a incredibly odd thing for others to worry about!! I’ve had money then been broke again like 20-30 times in this life, not sure why anyone would care? I certainly don’t!! Lol

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    People do not understand gambling holds no prisoners regardless of wealth

    Mega wealthy people have lost everything due to gambling and bad investments

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    sweep, tell me it wouldn't be nice to be at that final table.

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    he came down to Australia for those tournaments, and i have been told hes a baccarrat fiend. makes sense hes broke

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    Anyone that thinks he's broke knows nothing. He runs some of the biggest PPPoker clubs in the USA. Wouldn't be surprised if he was making $10k a day off them minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Anyone that thinks he's broke knows nothing. He runs some of the biggest PPPoker clubs in the USA. Wouldn't be surprised if he was making $10k a day off them minimum.
    Absolutely. Im done trying to talk about anything except sports betting on SBR cause when you do, you have every tough guy Tom, dick, and harry come busting your balls but mike mizrachi is far from broke. And who really gives a penetrate? Focus on your own money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Anyone that thinks he's broke knows nothing. He runs some of the biggest PPPoker clubs in the USA. Wouldn't be surprised if he was making $10k a day off them minimum.
    theres plenty of players that make a significant amount more than you that are still broke.

    low discipline + serious cash flow = death at times

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    good thread.

    mike is a very good tournament player. very very aggressive but people still fold even knowing that. i'll have to think of the math on that.

    i think he is a little tainted by his support of chino rheem, a truly despicable human being.

    curious on the taxes. i thought there were all kinds of problems on timing. you will always pay taxes on winning years. losing years are iffy as to getting benefit for them in other years. and i don't think there's any serious expectation of making a profit on black jack so i wonder if they are deductible.

    how do taxes work when you sell 70% of yourself for 100% of the entry fee? do you just pay taxes on the winnings and pay your investors a net of taxes figure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gojetsgomoxies View Post
    good thread.

    mike is a very good tournament player. very very aggressive but people still fold even knowing that. i'll have to think of the math on that.

    i think he is a little tainted by his support of chino rheem, a truly despicable human being.

    curious on the taxes. i thought there were all kinds of problems on timing. you will always pay taxes on winning years. losing years are iffy as to getting benefit for them in other years. and i don't think there's any serious expectation of making a profit on black jack so i wonder if they are deductible.

    how do taxes work when you sell 70% of yourself for 100% of the entry fee? do you just pay taxes on the winnings and pay your investors a net of taxes figure?
    I think Rheem stakes or helps find stakers for Mike and a couple of his friends.... Including the woman who got into it with 6 high like a boss.... Another clown.

    Not Sure where anyone gets off talking shit, hating, throwing shade on human beings they don't know. Typical loser shit

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    I haven't spoken to any mizrachi in years though. He very well could be broke. Its just way over my head why anyone would give a penetrate.

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    Oh wait, what am I talking about. It makes total sense that a website full of losers (active posters - seems like the winners dont post opinions)
    throw shade at other gamblers they don't know - trying to make themselves feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    Oh wait, what am I talking about. It makes total sense that a website full of losers (active posters - seems like the winners dont post opinions)
    throw shade at other gamblers they don't know - trying to make themselves feel better.
    whats worse? discussing a guy of relative fame, or discussing a bunch of people that are talking about him.

    go figure

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    fyi i have no care in regards to his financial status. when he was down in australia, his hosts (whom were on my poker table) were talking about how they were playing baccarat on the table, so i merely wanted to share.

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