[VeggieDog]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/r...-from-yankees/

The Yankees and Red Sox don't face each other again the rest of the regular season, but it's fair to say the rivalry seems a lot spicier than before in light of the news Tuesday. Major League Baseball has found that the Red Sox were using an Apple Watch to steal signs from the Yankees back in August in Fenway Park, reports the New York Times.

The Yankees, who had long been suspicious of the Red Sox stealing catchers' signs in Fenway Park, contended the video showed a member of the Red Sox training staff looking at his Apple Watch in the dugout and then relaying a message to players, who may have then been able to use the information to know the type of pitch that was going to be thrown when they were hitting, according to the people familiar with the case.
Baseball investigators corroborated the Yankees' claims based on video the commissioner's office uses for instant replay and broadcasts, the people said. The commissioner's office then confronted the Red Sox, who admitted that their trainers had received signals from video replay personnel and then relayed that information to some players -- an operation that had been in place for at least several weeks.

The full story in the Times has much more detail and is recommended reading for anyone interested. It's thorough.
Basically, the trainer would see the sign on his watch, signal something to a runner on second base and then that runner signals to the batter what pitch is coming. It has to happen fast, but it's possible to work. The series in question was Aug. 18-20 in Fenway Park. The Red Sox were 5 for 8 -- including a two-run homer by Rafael Devers -- with a runner on second base in the first game of that series.

The Times report indicates the Red Sox have countered with a complaint against, you guessed it, the Yankees. The Red Sox side says that the Yankees use a camera from YES Network to steal signs.
Stealing signs via electronic devices (or with any other help like binoculars) is illegal, so commissioner Rob Manfred has his hands full here in deciding a punishment. It seems likely that the organization will be significantly fined and perhaps there will be some penalty when it comes to draft picks, but some people won't view that as harsh enough.
Consider this developing, because not only do we wait on Manfred's office to confirm the report and then punish the Red Sox, but they are likely now investigating if the Red Sox claim of the Yankees' sign-stealing operation is true as well.

[grease lightnin]

What is it with the state of Massachusetts? Bunch of fukkin cheaters

[lakerboy]

MLB needs to throw the red Sox out of the playoffs race

[VeggieDog]

Not a lot of time from when the catcher puts down a finger to the time the pitcher throws the ball.

[MinnesotaFats]

Not a lot of time from when the catcher puts down a finger to the time the pitcher throws the ball.

Exactly. Irrelevant.

Better team in 1st

[bigbubbafade]

If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin

[ByeShea]

Partial to BoSox over Yankees, but for the good of the game MLB should do what the NFL didn't have the balls to do the Pats - and that's punish the fukkin' cheaters.

[milwaukee mike]

Exactly. Irrelevant.

Better team in 1st

if it's irrelevant then they wouldn't have done it

[mngambler]

If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin

this...christ we used to steal signs in varsity/american legion ball, such a shock someone is cheating, every team is cheating, they were just dumb enough to blatantly do it where the Yankees could easily get it on video

[MinnesotaFats]

Stealing signs is the world's second oldest profession. In the end it doesn't matter if it's w video, a camera, a damn Polaroid or some guy w a telescope, the news is irrelevant, non story, been going on since the 1870s

[Mr KLC]

An Apple Watch may not have helped the Boston Red Sox allegedly steal signs from the New York Yankees after all.

The Yankees filed a complaint earlier this month with Major League Baseball saying the Red Sox were stealing pitch signs by using the smartwatch during a four-game series last month in Boston, according to The New York Times. The Yankees provided a video showing a Red Sox staffer looking at his wrist wearable and relaying a message to players, possibly tipping off what pitches were going to be thrown.

The report identified the device as an Apple Watch, but a Boston reporter says it was in fact a wearable by rival Fitbit.

"Turns out there was no Apple Watch involved in Red Sox sign stealing. It was a Fitbit product according to a major league source," the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo said in a tweet Saturday. It wasn't immediately clear which Fitbit product the Red Sox might have been using.

While there is no rule against stealing signs, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred has said using electronic means to do so is a violation and the allegations are under investigation. The Red Sox have admitted to having trainers relay information from their replay staff to players using electronic devices, a strategy that was in place for weeks.

The Red Sox organization didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

[Sam Odom]

It is the RUSSIANS