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    MLB Sunday...

    I didn't get a chance to go through every game as usual, I was laying flat last night with a sore back but I did look through one that caught my eye just browsing the board.

    Detroit (Verlander) +109

    Imagine getting this price a few years ago on this guy. But, this is now, and the Tigers have their share of problems. However, if Verlander didn't get traded last night this will be his last outing as a Tiger. He will be pumped up for this. Houston sends out McCullers who has struggled in the last month or so mainly because he's not been accurate with his off speed stuff. Hitters sit dead red and lay off the junk. Good spot for the Tigers to get a win here at plus odds.

    Good luck if you follow along.
    Last edited by RangeFinder; 07-30-17 at 09:15 AM.

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    When did Verlander get a ring? His awful pitching in the world series was the main reason they didn't get a ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    When did Verlander get a ring? His awful pitching in the world series was the main reason they didn't get a ring
    OOPs my bad, I thought the Tigers won in 2012.

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    Edited. Thanks for the heads up, LB.

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    How is Verlander's velocity these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    How is Verlander's velocity these days?
    Not what it was. He changes speed and keeps hitters from timing anything. At least he tries anyway. He's been pretty effective lately, he's gone through the learning curve of not relying on heat.

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    Good luck buddy

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    This is a good time to give an example on how to watch a board to see of your team you bet, or want to bet, is expected to play well. Watch for the move with or against the Tigers here. You're not just looking for one move, but several. One move against the Tigers just occurred sending them from +109 to +114. In itself that is not anything to be concerned with, but if you see a couple more moves that sends the price to over +120, then you have an indication that either Verlander didn't warm up well, or, McCullers looked really good warming up.

    This was taught to me by an old pro back when I lived in Las Vegas. It's pretty effective although it doesn't happen that often. It's just something to watch for betting baseball.

    Just passing on something I learned over the years for those willing or wanting to learn to watch the prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post


    Detroit (Verlander) +109

    He's been Sammy's fave pitcher for yrs... many reasons for that

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    Okay, now we are seeing another move against the Tigers. This is concerning , although don't go rushing to off set your play, but now watch for another move against the Tigers. They are now at +120ish in most places. If this moves beyond +125 or further before first pitch, then either staying off the Tigers or laying off your original bet is probably the way to go. Also, there is also waiting for "live betting" to maybe hope the Tigers score 1st and then arb your position. There are always options when the board doesn't go your way.

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    Price has settled for the meantime around +120. I expect more movement within 45 minutes of 1st pitch, so keeping an eye out here is key.

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    Okay, price snapped back toward the Tigers, a very good sign. So far, for this game, all systems go.

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    Price on the Tigers has dropped to +105, lot of money moving at the Tigers. Good sign. Last update, hopefully this at least open the eyes of some that are new to sports betting. It's just one of the many ways of playing games and seeing whether or not you are on the right side or not.

    Good luck to those that followed along.

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    Did they win?

































    Nice call teacher

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    Lol, thanks LB

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    I didn't follow the game but it look like a rocking chair, tremendous call

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    This guy seems to win a lot.

    Is he paying for picks??

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    This guy seems to win a lot.

    Is he paying for picks??
    Um, no. I would not ever do that. I work really hard. If I did pay for picks, do you think they would actually win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Um, no. I would not ever do that. I work really hard. If I did pay for picks, do you think they would actually win?
    Yes.

    The more you pay, the more you win.

    Everyone knows that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Yes.

    The more you pay, the more you win.

    Everyone knows that.
    LOL!!!!

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    Rangefinder used to be part of a group in the early 2000's called "The Catalysts"

    It was a successful group but they got blackballed by Mark Del and Daulton.

    They eventually split and went their own separate ways

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Rangefinder used to be part of a group in the early 2000's called "The Catalysts"

    It was a successful group but they got blackballed by Mark Del and Daulton.

    They eventually split and went their own separate ways

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    Wow! I googled The Catalysts.

    Tons of pages dedicated to this guy RangeFinder. Apparently he was working/leading in some kind of syndicate group. Possible mob ties.

    Is this how he's always winning???

    JJ, what else did you find???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Wow! I googled The Catalysts.

    Tons of pages dedicated to this guy RangeFinder. Apparently he was working/leading in some kind of syndicate group. Possible mob ties.

    Is this how he's always winning???

    JJ, what else did you find???
    Okay, Okay, I worked for Billy Walters. He screwed us. We were going to steal his plane at McCarran Airport and make him pay what he owed us. Fortunately he paid us, the next day his aircraft was history. We had an ex airforce pilot ready to go. he was going to land that thing on a dry lake bed in California and hold it for ransom.

    How's that for a story?
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    That's all although I'll give you a hint if you ever see this guy in person call him The Conductor and he will be shocked .

    I do my homework

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Wow! I googled The Catalysts.

    Tons of pages dedicated to this guy RangeFinder. Apparently he was working/leading in some kind of syndicate group. Possible mob ties.

    Is this how he's always winning???

    JJ, what else did you find???

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