1. 04-13-17 11:53 AM #1
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    So just checked the NBA futures.....

    Seriously cavs -305 to win east and gstate -315 to win west. I know this was kind of what everyone expects but I've never seen odds this high. The NBA is such garbage. How can anyone watch this shit knowing well aware that basically every series is over and it doesn't matter. The NBA should have the worse ratings ever yet people will watch. Why???
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  2. 04-13-17 01:43 PM #2
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    shit's more predictable than wrestling
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  3. 04-13-17 02:28 PM #3
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    Check the demographics of people who watch the NBA.
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  4. 04-13-17 02:36 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Check the demographics of people who watch the NBA.
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  5. 04-13-17 02:40 PM #5
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    Cavs should be about -170 based of second half of season
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  6. 04-13-17 03:55 PM #6
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    Hopefully they both don't make the finals.

    NHL playoffs way better. True team sport not a bunch of stars controlling the sport.
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    So the teams with the best players usually win? Why is that bad?
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  8. 04-13-17 04:38 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    So the teams with the best players usually win? Why is that bad?
    Because its the same teams and theres no real chance of any other team. I'm ok with the best players winning but you want the "what if" to be a little bit better odds then getting struck by lightening
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    that's great becuz the east is up for grabs


    Boston +500
    Toronto +850
    Washington +1,000

    i'll take all 3 to win the east
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  10. 04-13-17 04:40 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopperocker View Post
    that's great becuz the east is up for grabs




    Boston +500
    Toronto +850
    Washington +1,000

    i'll take all 3 to win the east
    good luck to you but i strongly disagree. Feels like dead money to me. Just books throwing out big odds to draw "lottery" money
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    true, adding more value to the 1, 3 and 4 seed is fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    good luck to you but i strongly disagree. Feels like dead money to me. Just books throwing out big odds to draw "lottery" money
    I see your point but this is the first in a long time there is legitimate value betting against Lebron in a futures bet at least since the Lebron/Bosh/Wade team was FIRST assembled they were far to public in that first year but its always a 1, 2, 3 or 4 seed except in 1999 the 8 seed Knicks got there ticket cashed.
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  13. 04-13-17 05:12 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Because its the same teams and theres no real chance of any other team. I'm ok with the best players winning but you want the "what if" to be a little bit better odds then getting struck by lightening
    Oh I see what you mean... Kinda like the Patriots in the NFL (6 straight conference championships and 2 Super Bowls). Or the Blackhawks in the NHL (3 Stanley Cups in 6 years).
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  14. 04-13-17 05:16 PM #14
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    Thinking about laying -488 on cavs not to win the finals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Oh I see what you mean... Kinda like the Patriots in the NFL (6 straight conference championships and 2 Super Bowls). Or the Blackhawks in the NHL (3 Stanley Cups in 6 years).
    you mean Patriots consecutive DVISION championships? becuz that is seriously different then conference championships. winning a division only means you are an automatic playoff seed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    Thinking about laying -488 on cavs not to win the finals.
    that's a long wait early-mid June for the return but good luck.
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    Whoever takes Cavs is a jerkoff that has no business betting
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  18. 04-13-17 05:40 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Oh I see what you mean... Kinda like the Patriots in the NFL (6 straight conference championships and 2 Super Bowls). Or the Blackhawks in the NHL (3 Stanley Cups in 6 years).
    I dont care about conference championships. And im even okay with 3 cups in 6 years because theres been a gap. No gap in the nba. 3 straight gstate and cavs finals and 6 straight years of lebron in the finals.
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    As usual, everyone complaining about the NBA and it being shit, will be the first ones to wake up and be glued to their TV come Saturday, all the way till the finals
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Oh I see what you mean... Kinda like the Patriots in the NFL (6 straight conference championships and 2 Super Bowls). Or the Blackhawks in the NHL (3 Stanley Cups in 6 years).
    And to go on this more each year in the nfl, mlb, nhl theres at least reasonable chance that other teams have a shot. Just look at SBR, theres always a mix of opinions. But with the nba everyone says the same thing. Lebron on one side and gstate on the other. just getting old. If you like your predictable sports thats your choice but i dont enjoy knowing most of something before watching.
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  21. 04-13-17 05:46 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport_Fish View Post
    As usual, everyone complaining about the NBA and it being shit, will be the first ones to wake up and be glued to their TV come Saturday, all the way till the finals
    I wont. much rather watch nhl playoffs
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  22. 04-13-17 06:09 PM #22
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    Still think the rockets can give the warriors some trouble.
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  23. 04-14-17 01:10 AM #23
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    Cav's are the 2 seed. Lebron has been to 5 straight finals as a 2 seed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Check the demographics of people who watch the NBA.
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  25. 04-14-17 02:33 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopperocker View Post
    that's great becuz the east is up for grabs


    Boston +500
    Toronto +850
    Washington +1,000

    i'll take all 3 to win the east
    Those 3 teams at the prices you quoted combined as an entry would be odds of +175, for almost the same price of +160 you can get every team in the east vs. Cleveland. Obviously getting 4 more teams for close to the same odds is the better bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indio View Post
    Those 3 teams at the prices you quoted combined as an entry would be odds of +175, for almost the same price of +160 you can get every team in the east vs. Cleveland. Obviously getting 4 more teams for close to the same odds is the better bet.
    i completely get your point but my book isn't offering that option.
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  27. 04-14-17 09:40 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    And to go on this more each year in the nfl, mlb, nhl theres at least reasonable chance that other teams have a shot. Just look at SBR, theres always a mix of opinions. But with the nba everyone says the same thing. Lebron on one side and gstate on the other. just getting old. If you like your predictable sports thats your choice but i dont enjoy knowing most of something before watching.
    Lol. The Patriots going to the AFC championship/Super Bowl isn't predictable? Same shit every year. All I ever hear about is how great the parity is in the NFL and yet it always comes down to the same teams with the same great quarterbacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Lol. The Patriots going to the AFC championship/Super Bowl isn't predictable? Same shit every year. All I ever hear about is how great the parity is in the NFL and yet it always comes down to the same teams with the same great quarterbacks.
    of course. the parity is within the teams with superior leadership in any league along with the movement of players, not any team in any league. your constant reference to the Patriots is too easy, everyone knows once Belichick and Brady are gone that franchise will be irrelevant for a considerable amount of time. as for the NBA Warriors, this is theyre window and it aint gonna be open forever.
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  29. 04-14-17 12:21 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Seriously cavs -305 to win east and gstate -315 to win west. I know this was kind of what everyone expects but I've never seen odds this high. The NBA is such garbage. How can anyone watch this shit knowing well aware that basically every series is over and it doesn't matter. The NBA should have the worse ratings ever yet people will watch. Why???
    Are those two-way lines. I'd bet against each at +270 or better each very very large.
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    NBA still going on? Jesus
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Are those two-way lines. I'd bet against each at +270 or better each very very large.
    no separate
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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    good luck to you but i strongly disagree. Feels like dead money to me. Just books throwing out big odds to draw "lottery" money
    Any money invested in your personal future success (college tuition, business loan, etc..), now THAT'S dead money.
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    Bettors don't make any money when these teams win I guess. I think the east needs to watch out for the Bulls. They just limped in but now have Wade who they missed for half the year. And a solid core of players. I think Boston goes out first round. Y'all heard it here first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfValue View Post
    Bettors don't make any money when these teams win I guess. I think the east needs to watch out for the Bulls. They just limped in but now have Wade who they missed for half the year. And a solid core of players. I think Boston goes out first round. Y'all heard it here first.
    I think theres only 3 series that have any chance of an upset. Toronto/Buck, Clippers/utah, wiz/hawks. The rest of the series are like bye weeks in my opinion. That being said the 3 series that i mention have no effect on the end result of the playoffs
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  35. 04-15-17 02:56 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfValue View Post
    Bettors don't make any money when these teams win I guess. I think the east needs to watch out for the Bulls. They just limped in but now have Wade who they missed for half the year. And a solid core of players. I think Boston goes out first round. Y'all heard it here first.
    wouldn't be a shock at all. Boston least talented 1 seed in awhile. similar to the Hawks, but possibly less balance. I'm surprised more people aren't on the bulls.
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