1. 01-23-17 04:46 PM #1
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    Adult Arcade Business....

    Anyone familiar with running this type of shop? Several for sake in my city. Seem to have loyal following, many seniors playing 8 line machines. Wondering what true margin is for operator.
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  2. 01-23-17 04:49 PM #2
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    Illegal in most places, but great returns if you don't get busted. Had a friend average 3-5 k a day till he got popped and lost it all. Money & machines confiscated.
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  3. 01-23-17 05:25 PM #3
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    illegal
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  4. 01-23-17 05:38 PM #4
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    If there are a lot for sale there is likely a reason......
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  5. 01-23-17 06:42 PM #5
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    Stay away guy

    Your a not a mafia type
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  6. 01-23-17 06:53 PM #6
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  7. 01-23-17 06:56 PM #7
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    Probably not worth the risk .... And yes has to be a reason everyone else is selling
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  8. 01-23-17 07:07 PM #8
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    get closed down fast by me, even the poker games too
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  9. 01-23-17 07:15 PM #9
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    Thought this was referring to video game porn
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  10. 01-23-17 07:41 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    Thought this was referring to video game porn
    Yeah I thought he was talking about a jackoff spot where the gays with wives meet up
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  11. 01-23-17 07:41 PM #11
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    Do legal things only
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  12. 01-23-17 08:00 PM #12
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    Glory holes?
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  13. 01-23-17 08:05 PM #13
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  14. 01-23-17 08:15 PM #14
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    I thought this meant like a Dave & Busters place?


    I'd assume you're talking about Poker machines that pay out?
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  15. 01-23-17 08:36 PM #15
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    gotta set up in the back room of a bakery or have a secret knock
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  16. 01-23-17 08:37 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    Thought this was referring to video game porn
    same
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  17. 01-23-17 08:56 PM #17
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    These are senior "arcades" operating openly in strip malls. Small stakes 8 line slots. There are 2 for sale in my city, reopened after some legislation in 2013 was revamped to modify how they pay out.

    I actually called local authorities to inquire, they flat out told me that it's not a high priority for them. 8 line dealer set up both shops, selling them as franchises basically. They're always packed, 80+ players at a time, each dumping about $20/ hr into the machines.

    But yes, technically it's still illegal on the books. Listed for $135k for nearly 100 machines. IDK, if you got a joint like this for half that, $70k...would it pay for itself fast enough to offset the risk of closing? Noone here has operated a joint like that? What is the rate of play that you need if your machines are set at 95% payout or 90% payout?
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  18. 01-23-17 09:20 PM #18
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    Fatty forget it

    Not worth the risk
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  19. 01-23-17 09:27 PM #19
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    Just make an internet cafe with really cheap hourly rates. Then give them accounts at at your PPH shop and take cash deposits and transfer into the account to let them lose it all on sports/casino. Nothing more noble than taking money from degenerate seniors.
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  20. 01-23-17 09:34 PM #20
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    Everyone wants to be mafia here
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  21. 01-23-17 09:38 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post
    Just make an internet cafe with really cheap hourly rates. Then give them accounts at at your PPH shop and take cash deposits and transfer into the account to let them lose it all on sports/casino. Nothing more noble than taking money from degenerate seniors.
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  22. 01-23-17 09:53 PM #22
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    I had five machines (max allowed) in my joint for years.
    Greatest supplemental cash cow ever.
    No risk JJ if you don't excede 5 machines.
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  23. 01-23-17 10:14 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    These are senior "arcades" operating openly in strip malls. Small stakes 8 line slots. There are 2 for sale in my city, reopened after some legislation in 2013 was revamped to modify how they pay out.

    I actually called local authorities to inquire, they flat out told me that it's not a high priority for them. 8 line dealer set up both shops, selling them as franchises basically. They're always packed, 80+ players at a time, each dumping about $20/ hr into the machines.

    But yes, technically it's still illegal on the books. Listed for $135k for nearly 100 machines. IDK, if you got a joint like this for half that, $70k...would it pay for itself fast enough to offset the risk of closing? Noone here has operated a joint like that? What is the rate of play that you need if your machines are set at 95% payout or 90% payout?
    cops will prob show up and shut down 10 minutes after your purchase deal is finalized
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  24. 01-24-17 01:04 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Anyone familiar with running this type of shop? Several for sake in my city. Seem to have loyal following, many seniors playing 8 line machines. Wondering what true margin is for operator.
    and, you'll have to clean up several gallons of jiz per day off the floor.....

    just not worth it......
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  25. 01-24-17 01:09 AM #25
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  26. 01-24-17 01:20 AM #26
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    As a business owner myself, I can tell you nobody sells a business that is highly profitable and easy to run. There is a reason why, find that reason. If they tell you it's family related or they are moving, that is a line of bullshit. Ask to look at their books so you can find out how they concluded what their company is worth. If they won't do that, walk away.
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  27. 01-24-17 01:30 AM #27
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    Yeah, not worth it.

    Ask jj how to start up a smoke/porn shop. Sell paraphernalia to the stoners. Some videos and gear to the couples, and then whatever they do in the backroom for the weirdos.
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  28. 01-24-17 03:22 AM #28
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    these shops are popping up all over here in Illinois and Cook county (legal in all of Cook, besides chicago)

    every bar/restaurant has machines in it these days

    friend looking into getting our own space and making a mini casino
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  29. 01-24-17 04:22 AM #29
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    I get it now.

    Not even worth a second breath on the matter.

    People are rats. One of your users would rat you out.
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  30. 01-24-17 05:11 AM #30
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    this thread
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  31. 01-24-17 09:28 AM #31
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    and what won't be on the books are the payments the owners have to make to the cops to keep them from shutting you down for all the criminal activity goin' on inside those slippery, used-condom covered floors of the booths..... (lewd/lacivious behavior, indecent exposure, sodomy, etc.).... nor will the show the payments to whatever wise guys whos turf the shop is on.....

    if you do take the plunge, hire some illegal aliens to clean the shit up off the floors/screens of the booths, and an older asian guy you can trust (or easily dispose of if he tries to steal from you) to run it.....

    ps.... always wear shoes with good soles on them, so you don't run a disgarded HIV-tainted heroin needed into your foot, or a shard of glass from a broken meth pipe.....
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  32. 01-24-17 10:56 AM #32
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    only way to circumvent the laws i see is operating it like a pachinko parlor where you exchange it for real items , not no bullshit stuff animals..
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  33. 01-24-17 11:09 AM #33
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    depends on the local and state laws
    every case different
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  34. 01-24-17 11:37 AM #34
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    one thing for sure.... any functional and operational glory holes in a business open to the public (this excludes "private clubs" where a membership is required to enter) will ensure violation of the law in every jurisdiction in the U.S......
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  35. 01-24-17 11:38 AM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    one thing for sure.... any functional and operational glory holes in a business open to the public (this excludes "private clubs" where a membership is required to enter) will ensure violation of the law in every jurisdiction in the U.S......
    thread over
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