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    The MAJORITY of sharps are on the Colts, don't kid yourselves here folks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    What I would like to know is how Walters got a full 2 million down on Colts -4 when I see no better than -4.5 anywhere?
    LT, maybe I read it wrong but I thought he played the 2 mil on ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    I am. Do you really think the tout Adam meyer will bet $1 million dollars??? That's the biggest clue this is just fiction. Of course the other obvios clue Is the line itself. Do you also believe Walters would bet $2 million and then the line would move against him??? It's fiction BD.
    yes he will bet 1 million.

    how hard is that for you to understand?

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    LOL ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    LOL ok.
    the sportsbook manager of the M was on vegas news talking about Adam Meyer having the balls to put his money where his mouth is when he bet 300k on arizona over GB

    he said its refreshing to see someone step up and put the money on his plays unlike the other 99.9% of the touts that don't bet a penny.

    so do you think he just makes that shit up?

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    I think the wizard, SBRJOHN, has not been getting enough sleep the past few days...........we all fall into that trap once in awhile.

    It sucks when it happens during Superbowl week like it has for SBRJOHN

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    200 games or matches on the board 360 days a year and everybody waits for the super bowl to make some of their biggest bets of the year...not just the big fish who partially want the publicity..lots of small fry too

    This game is a toss up..who the fuk really knows..colts may blow them..saints may blow them..game may be close..I just dont get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraitShooter View Post
    200 games or matches on the board 360 days a year and everybody waits for the super bowl to make some of their biggest bets of the year...not just the big fish who partially want the publicity..lots of small fry too

    This game is a toss up..who the fuk really knows..colts may blow them..saints may blow them..game may be close..I just dont get it
    that is so false i don't where to begin.

    but i don't have the time with over 100 games going today.

    maybe someone else can chime in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraitShooter View Post
    200 games or matches on the board 360 days a year and everybody waits for the super bowl to make some of their biggest bets of the year...not just the big fish who partially want the publicity..lots of small fry too

    This game is a toss up..who the fuk really knows..colts may blow them..saints may blow them..game may be close..I just dont get it

    Because one can get down more money on this game then say something like an NBA TOTAL........and it involves more ego boasting ability because EVERYONE wagers or is aware of this game.

    I have the COLTS MONEYLINE personally.......and will be boasting after the win for a few minutes.

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    oh gosh bill gate gambling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    the sportsbook manager of the M was on vegas news talking about Adam Meyer having the balls to put his money where his mouth is when he bet 300k on arizona over GB

    he said its refreshing to see someone step up and put the money on his plays unlike the other 99.9% of the touts that don't bet a penny.

    so do you think he just makes that shit up?
    Its all hype. If you think BW bet $2 million and the line moved AGAINST him then not much to talk about. As for Meyer I think he pays people to hype him just like they all do. Its a game of hype and they all split the money. Meyer is no BW or even 1% close. You can believe it or not.

    Fish I liked the Colts until I talked to the bookmakers in Costa Rica. Its too many points. As for laying -190 because -5.5 is too many??? Think about that. You're going to lay nearly 2 to win 1 and bet one play doesn't drop you nearly 2 units and I'm the one that needs sleep?? The points is play but the ML will probably work out so maybe we can both sleep good tomorrow night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post

    Its all hype. If you think BW bet $2 million and the line moved AGAINST him then not much to talk about. As for Meyer I think he pays people to hype him just like they all do. Its a game of hype and they all split the money. Meyer is no BW or even 1% close. You can believe it or not.

    Fish I liked the Colts until I talked to the bookmakers in Costa Rica. Its too many points. As for laying -190 because -5.5 is too many??? Think about that. You're going to lay nearly 2 to win 1 and bet one play doesn't drop you nearly 2 units and I'm the one that needs sleep?? The points is play but the ML will probably work out so maybe we can both sleep good tomorrow night.
    You were doing so well until the second paragraph.

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    Who dat?..Kinda ironic aint it..the cards say ten point outcome

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    Saints should not even be in that game. Minnesota was better team but tell you the truth I have never seen one team to be so much better than other that doing everything to lose the game. That was amazing. Minnesota really wanted to lose, it was hard since they had double the yards Saints had but they succeeded. It took lot of effort though
    Now final is always game with different dynamics but in this one Colts is the better team and they will not make Saints a type of favor the Favre and co did. Colts will win and cover. I'm sure bets getting really crazy in Vegas. It must be good feeling to watch the game with mill on stake especially when your team **** up the way Minnesota did
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf71 View Post
    Saints should not even be in that game. Minnesota was better team but tell you the truth I have never seen one team to be so much better than other that doing everything to lose the game. That was amazing. Minnesota really wanted to lose, it was hard ( since they had double the yards Saints had) but they succeeded.
    Now final is always game with different dynamics but that one Colts is a better team and they will not make Saints a type of favor the Favre and co did. Colts will win and cover. I'm sure bets getting really crazy in Vegas. It must be good feeling to watch the game with mil on stake especially when your team **** up the way Minnesota did
    which is why anything can happen if turnovers become an issue with either team

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    Agreed. If I think back to the Minnesota last play where Favre just needed to run 10 yards with a open field in front of him and lay down. It would have been over. That pass he was throwing was almost funny , almost as if he wanted to give it away. I'm serious. He has been Saints fan growing up 60 miles from NO... I don't think Manning has ever been Saints fan though

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Its all hype. If you think BW bet $2 million and the line moved AGAINST him then not much to talk about. As for Meyer I think he pays people to hype him just like they all do. Its a game of hype and they all split the money. Meyer is no BW or even 1% close. You can believe it or not.

    Fish I liked the Colts until I talked to the bookmakers in Costa Rica. Its too many points. As for laying -190 because -5.5 is too many??? Think about that. You're going to lay nearly 2 to win 1 and bet one play doesn't drop you nearly 2 units and I'm the one that needs sleep?? The points is play but the ML will probably work out so maybe we can both sleep good tomorrow night.
    The line opened at -3.5 and then went through the roof. I bet his beards were out in full force when the line opened. I think it is funny that people don't think BW can get 2 Million down on a game. Also the source that posted the information first used to be one of his beards..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grux View Post
    The line opened at -3.5 and then went through the roof. I bet his beards were out in full force when the line opened. I think it is funny that people don't think BW can get 2 Million down on a game.
    Actually it went to 4.5 to 5 on very light action mostly within the first hour. You can click on SBROdds and look at the history.

    I think we all know BW can get that kind of coin down. But I just sat with some huge bookmakers in Costa Rica who told me straight out that none of their sharp players are on the colts yet and that every square is. With the public ALL over the colts, if Billy came in and hammered the colts that line would have moved. Instead the line has not moved despite the public being a 100% on the colts. Its pretty easy to read between the lines. The sharp money is on the Saints and thats why despite the public betting the hell out of the favorite the line is not moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    This whole article is complete fiction.

    Adam Meyer is cleared to bet $1 million dollars??? The GamblingFamily has more cash than this tout. Thats like saying JJ Gold will bet $490 billion.

    Walters is not an action junkie. He probably doesn't have $5 bucks on the game.

    And JJ Gold will get laid during the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Actually it went to 4.5 to 5 on very light action mostly within the first hour. You can click on SBROdds and look at the history.

    I think we all know BW can get that kind of coin down. But I just sat with some huge bookmakers in Costa Rica who told me straight out that none of their sharp players are on the colts yet and that every square is. With the public ALL over the colts, if Billy came in and hammered the colts that line would have moved. Instead the line has not moved despite the public being a 100% on the colts. Its pretty easy to read between the lines. The sharp money is on the Saints and thats why despite the public betting the hell out of the favorite the line is not moving.
    Really this is straight from SBR Odds.
    101
    102
    +3½ +106
    -3½ -115

    Also, The superbowl brings out a lot of big bettors. IMO, lines aren't going to move as much as a typical NFL Sunday. Also, he made the bet at the Bellagio. They may have needed some money on the colts.

    PINNACLE LINE HISTORY 3.5-5.5 is a small move?
    01/24 22:30 +3½ +106 / -3½ -115
    01/24 22:35 +4 +104 / -4 -113
    01/24 22:40 +4 +106 / -4 -115
    01/24 22:45 +4½ +101 / -4½ -109
    01/24 22:50 +4½ +103 / -4½ -111
    01/24 22:55 +4½ +102 / -4½ -110
    01/24 23:10 +4½ +105 / -4½ -114
    01/24 23:15 +4½ +107 / -4½ -116
    01/24 23:20 +4½ +105 / -4½ -114
    01/24 23:25 +4½ +107 / -4½ -116
    01/25 00:15 +4½ +105 / -4½ -114
    01/25 06:20 +4½ +104 / -4½ -112
    01/25 06:20 +4½ +104 / -4½ -113
    01/25 15:30 +4½ +106 / -4½ -115
    01/25 17:25 +5½ -102 / -5½ -106
    01/25 17:45 +5½ -103 / -5½ -105
    01/25 23:10 +5½ -101 / -5½ -107
    01/25 23:15 +5½ -102 / -5½ -106
    01/26 07:45 +5½ -104 / -5½ -104
    01/26 13:58 +5½ -103 / -5½ -105
    01/26 14:23 +5½ -104 / -5½ -104
    01/26 23:04 +5½ -105 / -5½ -103
    01/27 11:49 +5½ -104 / -5½ -104
    01/27 18:10 +5½ -102 / -5½ -106
    01/27 18:15 +5½ -104 / -5½ -104
    01/28 23:39 +5½ -106 / -5½ -102
    02/01 09:09 +5½ -108 / -5½ +100
    02/01 11:49 +5 -103 / -5 -105
    02/01 11:54 +5 -102 / -5 -106
    02/01 19:20 +4½ +102 / -4½ -110
    02/01 22:20 +4½ +100 / -4½ -108
    02/02 10:15 +4½ -101 / -4½ -107
    02/02 11:10 +4½ -102 / -4½ -106
    02/02 13:10 +4½ -103 / -4½ -105
    02/03 13:44 +4½ -104 / -4½ -104
    02/04 05:55 +4½ -105 / -4½ -103
    02/04 11:35 +4½ -107 / -4½ -101
    02/04 13:00 +4½ -108 / -4½ +100
    02/04 13:05 +4½ -109 / -4½ +101
    02/04 17:38 +4½ -107 / -4½ -101
    02/05 14:30 +4½ -106 / -4½ -102
    02/05 21:00 +4½ -107 / -4½ -101
    02/06 12:56 +4½ -105 / -4½ -103
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    Look at the date and Times:
    POINTSPREADS
    01/24 22:31 +3 +100 / -3 -120
    01/24 22:32 +4 -110 / -4 -110
    01/24 22:33 +3½ -110 / -3½ -110
    01/24 22:34 +4 -110 / -4 -110
    01/24 22:38 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    01/24 22:39 +4 -110 / -4 -110
    01/24 22:41 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    01/24 22:42 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    01/24 22:51 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    01/24 23:15 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    01/24 23:24 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    01/25 18:12 +6 -110 / -6 -110
    01/25 18:16 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    01/25 20:10 +6 -110 / -6 -110
    01/25 20:11 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    02/01 19:58 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    02/02 21:03 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    02/03 16:03 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    02/03 18:14 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    02/05 13:01 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    02/06 12:00 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110

    The line is circled and no one will take anything heavy in the first few hours. This one took about an hour and its stayed right there within a 1/2 point either way for about 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Look at the date and Times:
    POINTSPREADS
    01/24 22:31 +3 +100 / -3 -120
    01/24 22:32 +4 -110 / -4 -110
    01/24 22:33 +3½ -110 / -3½ -110
    01/24 22:34 +4 -110 / -4 -110
    01/24 22:38 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    01/24 22:39 +4 -110 / -4 -110
    01/24 22:41 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    01/24 22:42 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    01/24 22:51 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    01/24 23:15 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    01/24 23:24 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    01/25 18:12 +6 -110 / -6 -110
    01/25 18:16 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    01/25 20:10 +6 -110 / -6 -110
    01/25 20:11 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
    02/01 19:58 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    02/02 21:03 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    02/03 16:03 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    02/03 18:14 +4½ -110 / -4½ -110
    02/05 13:01 +5 -110 / -5 -110
    02/06 12:00 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110

    The line is circled and no one will take anything heavy in the first few hours. This one took about an hour and its stayed right there within a 1/2 point either way for about 2 weeks.
    Pinnacle won't take any heavy action in the first few hours? Also small money(Square Money) moved the pinnacle line 3.5-5.5. I don't know, just asking a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomato View Post
    Must have been BigDaddyQH's syndicate.
    no they are working on a middle of -3, +4.5

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    Good read, thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Actually it went to 4.5 to 5 on very light action mostly within the first hour. You can click on SBROdds and look at the history.

    I think we all know BW can get that kind of coin down. But I just sat with some huge bookmakers in Costa Rica who told me straight out that none of their sharp players are on the colts yet and that every square is. With the public ALL over the colts, if Billy came in and hammered the colts that line would have moved. Instead the line has not moved despite the public being a 100% on the colts. Its pretty easy to read between the lines. The sharp money is on the Saints and thats why despite the public betting the hell out of the favorite the line is not moving.
    Great read .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Actually it went to 4.5 to 5 on very light action mostly within the first hour. You can click on SBROdds and look at the history.

    I think we all know BW can get that kind of coin down. But I just sat with some huge bookmakers in Costa Rica who told me straight out that none of their sharp players are on the colts yet and that every square is. With the public ALL over the colts, if Billy came in and hammered the colts that line would have moved. Instead the line has not moved despite the public being a 100% on the colts. Its pretty easy to read between the lines. The sharp money is on the Saints and thats why despite the public betting the hell out of the favorite the line is not moving.
    i dont know how you can make it any clearer, and they still argue. shrinkie's minions trying to justify a fairy tale. and, the mgm would give out -4 when its higher everywhere, for 2 million? talk about exposure.

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    doesnt bother me one bit 'cause walters has been wrong so many times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grux View Post
    Pinnacle won't take any heavy action in the first few hours? Also small money(Square Money) moved the pinnacle line 3.5-5.5. I don't know, just asking a question.
    Grux if you look at those times the line went from -3 to where it is now in an hour and it was circled that entire hour. Sure they write some action during that hour but not much. I think their circled limits are $500. No book is going to take any real action until the line settles. So if someone says they got a million on Indy minus 3 they are being a whole lot less than honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Grux if you look at those times the line went from -3 to where it is now in an hour and it was circled that entire hour. Sure they write some action during that hour but not much. I think their circled limits are $500. No book is going to take any real action until the line settles. So if someone says they got a million on Indy minus 3 they are being a whole lot less than honest.
    Thanks for the explanation. I am fairly new to sports betting and didn't know about a time when bets were circled. Enjoy the Super Bowl and one of us is going to have some extra change in their pocket on Monday morning.

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    Hmmmmm Billy Walters + $2 million dollars + Phil Ivey = a good story for the public to LOVE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmike032 View Post
    no they are working on a middle of -3, +4.5
    Tomato thought he was still claiming to be getting the LVSC numbers at the Hilton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grux View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. I am fairly new to sports betting and didn't know about a time when bets were circled. Enjoy the Super Bowl and one of us is going to have some extra change in their pocket on Monday morning.
    Hope we both do! I could be healthy if I can win a few props. I really dont think the Saints are a great team but they are good. Plus, if they are down I think they can find the back door with that offense. They looked bad against the Viking defense but this is not the Viking defense they will face. Its closer to the patriot defense that NO easily destroyed. Good luck and save a little money in case I need a loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Hope we both do! I could be healthy if I can win a few props. I really dont think the Saints are a great team but they are good. Plus, if they are down I think they can find the back door with that offense. They looked bad against the Viking defense but this is not the Viking defense they will face. Its closer to the patriot defense that NO easily destroyed. Good luck and save a little money in case I need a loan.
    I played tons of props as well. I will ask my wife for some money if our props don't come through for us..

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    what's up colt backers? i FUKKING TOLD YOU SO you fukking SPORTS MORONS.

    saints were the play the whole way, NEVER ANY DOUBT the last 14 days that THEY WERE THE PLAY

    SUKK ON THAT HATERS

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