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    Are the Presidential Polls by mainstream media fake, real or skewd

    I haven't really pay attention to the Presidential final polls in the last few election but I clearly remember the 2000 Bush/Gore election.

    MSNBC had Gore/Bush 50/50

    CBS Bush/Gore 51/49

    ABC Bush/Gore 51/49


    This was when we didn't have all these insane polls we have now and we could say in 2000 it was pretty accurate in what the American people were thinking. I mean the Presidency was separated by a mere 1734 votes in Florida.

    If Hillary has a 4-5 point poll lead on election day, there is no way Trump is going to win.

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    No, they're not fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    I haven't really pay attention to the Presidential final polls in the last few election but I clearly remember the 2000 Bush/Gore election.

    MSNBC had Gore/Bush 50/50

    CBS Bush/Gore 51/49

    ABC Bush/Gore 51/49


    This was when we didn't have all these insane polls we have now and we could say in 2000 it was pretty accurate in what the American people were thinking. I mean the Presidency was separated by a mere 1734 votes in Florida.

    If Hillary has a 4-5 point poll lead on election day, there is no way Trump is going to win.
    Obviously. And if anything, Hillary will win by more than whatever it says because better organization. I actually now think she may very well win by DD. Almost unimaginable in today's politics. The odds these days that any candidate could win DD is close to zero. Only Trump could pull off such a loss.

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    Sean Hannity is the only person not predicting a victory even though he is his biggest supporter. All his other guess like Newt Gingrich are saying the polls are not reflective of the big rallies Trump is getting, and they are all saying Trump wins. People don't realize that Trump rally are big because this guy is a pure entertainer, I mean he is exciting to watch because he goes off rails and says a lot political incorrect things that people love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Obviously. And if anything, Hillary will win by more than whatever it says because better organization. I actually now think she may very well win by DD. Almost unimaginable in today's politics. The odds these days that any candidate could win DD is close to zero. Only Trump could pull off such a loss.
    You can bet your ass, that Clinton is laughing her ass off everyday. What a damn gift that opponent is/was...

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    all of the above and then some

    enigma inside a riddle inside a maze this election

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWD View Post
    all of the above and then some

    enigma inside a riddle inside a maze this election
    This guy gets it... Layers on layers of deception.

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    lol if you believe the media

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    they told Cameron the day of the Brexit vote that he would win by 5+ points. The polls said so. He lost by 5.

    The Trump revolution is strong. I think he's got a good chance to win.

    The media is corrupt. Polls are fake to a large extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidcudi92 View Post
    lol if you believe the media
    oh now its lol if you believe the media funny how youve done a 180.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    crisis actors?.


    Something like that...

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    Dangerous though... They control whether the tv tells you it's going to be a category 5 or a tropical storm ... They control the stories and the narrative ... There should be some level of trust to these sources as " mainstream media " even to be honest with polls ... It just isn't there...

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    Polls vs Vegas

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    oh now its lol if you believe the media funny how youve done a 180.



    because i think not every mass shooting is a conspiracy???

    you realize i was joking in all those threads about crisis actors no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidcudi92 View Post


    because i think not every mass shooting is a conspiracy???

    you realize i was joking in all those threads about crisis actors no?
    yes I know u were being sarcastic and why say not every when youve never stated that anything wasnt real and what theyve said was indeed fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    they told Cameron the day of the Brexit vote that he would win by 5+ points. The polls said so. He lost by 5.

    The Trump revolution is strong. I think he's got a good chance to win.

    The media is corrupt. Polls are fake to a large extent.
    Brexit wasn't a serial sexual abuser of half of the electorate.

    Brexit didn't call a large segment of voters rapists.

    Brexit doesn't tweet about sex tapes at 3am.

    You get the idea.

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    impossible to tell

    Dems control media period

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Obviously. And if anything, Hillary will win by more than whatever it says because better organization. I actually now think she may very well win by DD. Almost unimaginable in today's politics. The odds these days that any candidate could win DD is close to zero. Only Trump could pull off such a loss.
    Still waiting on Rubio to win Florida and the contested convention that you guaranteed
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Brexit wasn't a serial sexual abuser of half of the electorate.

    Brexit didn't call a large segment of voters rapists.


    Brexit doesn't tweet about sex tapes at 3am.

    You get the idea.
    neither is Trump and neither did Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    impossible to tell

    Dems Zionists control media period
    ...

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    Good question.

    My take is this:

    I think they are more reliable in a typical election than this one.

    Reasons:

    1. A LOT of unaccounted voters. (Favors Trump)

    2. Apathy from Clinton side especially if they think it's going to be a walk.

    (Favors Trump with a stronger base).

    3. Crazy things coming out almost daily. (Favoring Clinton so far).

    4. The eye test. My area 4 years ago (I'd describe it slightly right) many people had signs, probably was about 50/50. This time, I've seen almost all Trump signs, 2 Hillary signs, 3 Gary Johnson signs. This only takes into account the Pittsburgh area, but it's been a noticeable movement.

    A lot of things are going to be coming out over the next 26 days, so this could change rapidly.

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    given what's been uncovered through all of the email leaks, which shows a strong collaborative effort between Hillary and a number of the mainstream news corporations, I am not sure that they are willing conduct a truly objective/scientific poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    So he knows his dad is gonna lose.

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    I know the poll about white women not voting for Trump is BS. I was at a Trump rally Tuesday night and it was at least 50% white women there under the age of 40. 18,300 people showed for a rally that could only hold 7500 is what the Fire Marshall reported

    later

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    Quote Originally Posted by capitalist pig View Post
    I know the poll about white women not voting for Trump is BS. I was at a Trump rally Tuesday night and it was at least 50% white women there under the age of 40. 18,300 people showed for a rally that could only hold 7500 is what the Fire Marshall reported

    later
    exactly. This media is in the tank for the Clinton's. They are lying and opening cheering for the reptile. They cannot stop the Trump train. Smart women will vote Trump.

    Any person with half a brain knows its all the polls and recent allegations are bullshit. They all just decided to come out one month before the election? LOL! The media are in the tank for the Clintons and the rich elite who controls them. They see the overwhelming support Trump has and a desperate to stop him. It won't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    exactly. This media is in the tank for the Clinton's. They are lying and opening cheering for the reptile. They cannot stop the Trump train. Smart women will vote Trump.

    Any person with half a brain knows its all the polls and recent allegations are bullshit. They all just decided to come out one month before the election? LOL! The media are in the tank for the Clintons and the rich elite who controls them. They see the overwhelming support Trump has and a desperate to stop him. It won't work.




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    Rep's have no chance anymore because of media

    Low Class society that is all it means in the future

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    Remember the unskewedpolls guy? He was convinced Romney would win, the polls were pretty close to dead on. Nate Silver got every state right back in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capitalist pig View Post
    i know the poll about white women not voting for trump is bs. I was at a trump rally tuesday night and it was at least 50% white women there under the age of 40. 18,300 people showed for a rally that could only hold 7500 is what the fire marshall reported

    later
    boom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by capitalist pig View Post
    I know the poll about white women not voting for Trump is BS. I was at a Trump rally Tuesday night and it was at least 50% white women there under the age of 40. 18,300 people showed for a rally that could only hold 7500 is what the Fire Marshall reported

    later
    Yeah, and they are probably all 95% Republicans. Having big rallies don't mean squat. Why, because Donald Trump is a polarizing figure, he's entertaining to see talk. So of course he's going to have big rallies when compared to Hillary. Bernie Sander rallies were every bit just as big as all of Trump's rallies.

    The electoral has change, you can't win with all white people. It will never ever happen again in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    Yeah, and they are probably all 95% Republicans. Having big rallies don't mean squat. Why, because Donald Trump is a polarizing figure, he's entertaining to see talk. So of course he's going to have big rallies when compared to Hillary. Bernie Sander rallies were every bit just as big as all of Trump's rallies.

    The electoral has change, you can't win with all white people. It will never ever happen again in America.
    The point was, the media would have you believe she has the women's vote...she doesn't. A lot of strong black figures ain't gonna vote her way either... then add in evangicals ....BOOM

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