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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    The Colorado mass murderer wasn't in the military, neither the Virginia Tech shooter, or the Sandy Hook shooter and certainly not the San Bernandino shooter.
    Colorado, VT and SH all severe mental health. San Bernadino a religious wacko. Those are 2 more categories.

    Religious wackos, mentally ill and ex-military. That pretty much covers most mass murders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Colorado, VT and SH all severe mental health. San Bernadino a religious wacko. Those are 2 more categories.

    Religious wackos, mentally ill and ex-military. That pretty much covers most mass murders.
    Why not just call them all mentally ill?

    That's nice and tidy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Colorado, VT and SH all severe mental health. San Bernadino a religious wacko. Those are 2 more categories.

    Religious wackos, mentally ill and ex-military. That pretty much covers most mass murders.
    How about the redneck who shot the black church members in Columbia, SC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Maybe, but they got trained in armed warfare and tactics and so forth. Probably just wanted badly to put their training in action. Yes, ex-military commit disproportionate violence, including against themselves.
    I'm speechless..I can't imagine where some of you come up with this stuff. When someone says "Probably" that's the crap being thrown to the wall and hoping it sticks. Next thing you should say is there are secret gangs running the streets with trained death squads to weed out undocumented aliens as well....damn what a pile of crap

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    Don't forget about ol' Charlie Whitman, the UT Tower sniper, ex-disgruntled marine and a hell of a shot. From the 28th floor, killed 14 people and wounded another 32, armed with a M1 carbine and bolt-action Remington. He wasn't black or Muslim, just pissed off and white and felt like the military wronged him. Crazy as hell, but the kid could shoot.
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    You better watch 60 minutes. He said he will go to war and have ground troops. This is whaT ISIS wants. REMEMBER VIETNAM.THY KICKED OUR ASS ON THEIR TURF

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    I'll never understand the argument if someone is insane or not after murdering people. How can someone say they are not insane? They just went and murdered another life; obviously this event doesn't follow the daily life of a sane person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    How about the redneck who shot the black church members in Columbia, SC?
    Religious wacko.

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    Thank you vets for your service.

    Also Nino, don't think I didn't notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    How about the redneck who shot the black church members in Columbia, SC?
    so believable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    No, it's common in the middle east, Mexico, Central and South America and Asian countries. We also see extremely high incidences of male violence in those countries, as well as Muslim dominated countries. Most of the world suffers the consequences of male violence. Imagine tomorrow if not one man committed a crime in the world, just imagine that. There's a good chance that tomorrow not a single person would be murdered or assaulted. It's sickening

    Every time a black man commits a crime or shoots cops, people say "open your eyes, it's the blacks committing the crimes!" and then those arguing will say "Nope, white men commit a ton of crime as well, including shooting, rapes, etc..."

    But it's all focused on race, not sex

    The constant is that men are involved, but no men want to talk about that, they want to blame it on someone else.

    If you look at it objectively, world wide male violence


    Is it the way we teach them, or is it just natural? Seems like it is natural, it starts at puberty, gets worse when you add more testosterone though roids, even women with naturally excessive test are more aggressive, etc...

    I don't know kraken. I have four boys and you have to be tough to make it. I was tough but I never killed or raped anyone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Maybe, but they got trained in armed warfare and tactics and so forth. Probably just wanted badly to put their training in action. Yes, ex-military commit disproportionate violence, including against themselves.
    No those guys would have had a couple months of basic weapons and generic drills but nothing further in those jobs. Vets are committing suicide not from violent ptsd but depression....it's a hard adjustment. See way too much evil shit and get in a mindset to get through it then come back to people bitching about long lines at a grocery store or a reality show rivalry and just feels off...isolation and then take that next step. It's sad and an epidemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    Who's butt hurt? It's just a simple observation of how dumb it is for a Russian to say that another country has a FAKE democracy.
    who's butt hurt? well, I know who's butt would hurt if she stopped by DonkLand for a few hours.... that would be the pole vaulter babe in your avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by grease lightnin View Post
    Is it the way we teach them, or is it just natural? Seems like it is natural, it starts at puberty, gets worse when you add more testosterone though roids, even women with naturally excessive test are more aggressive, etc...

    I don't know kraken. I have four boys and you have to be tough to make it. I was tough but I never killed or raped anyone...
    Nature vs nurture

    I personally would say that it's a mixed bag, but t's primarily nurture, that we raise them to resort to violence (unintentionally). Testosterone provably plays a small part in it as too much can cause aggression

    But too many boys grow up to be great men for me to think it's just nature.

    Although nearly 100% of all violent crimes are committed by males, I would assume the overall % of males that commit a violent crime is pretty low, leading me again to think its more the way certain boys are raised

    But its hard to ignore a nearly 100% violent offender rate being males

    Im just sayin, if we're gonna waste time talking (not me andbyou, but society in general) lets address the real problem

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    hard to stop mental nuts period

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    hard to stop mental nuts period
    Read my post...I'm only programmed to rough you up...once my mission is complete just like Bucky in the Avengers I'll be iced

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    My neighbor got back from 2 tours in Iraq. Hes was a airplane geek before he enlisted and when he got out he is a complete weirdo/psycho.

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    for those that like documentaries... i really feel bad for our veterans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    hard to stop mental nuts period
    speak for yourself, you nut.

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    3 months during basic and usually 3 months of other training but they still would have training with weapons every day .

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    Another white officer down



    Kansas City Police Chief, Terry Zeigler, said a police officer was shot and later died Tuesday afternoon. The officer had been taken to hospital in critical condition.
    It was a male officer. The trauma surgeon at Kansas University Medical Center said the police captain had died of his injuries, according to The Associated Press

    KCK police captain Dave Melton has been identified as the police officer killed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    Another white officer down



    Kansas City Police Chief, Terry Zeigler, said a police officer was shot and later died Tuesday afternoon. The officer had been taken to hospital in critical condition.
    It was a male officer. The trauma surgeon at Kansas University Medical Center said the police captain had died of his injuries, according to The Associated Press

    KCK police captain Dave Melton has been identified as the police officer killed
    You kill a police officer You don't get a trial. Makes me sad that these pukes don't respect p.o.

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    Maybe these cops/armies are suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Mental issues. My God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_Demo View Post
    My neighbor got back from 2 tours in Iraq. Hes was a airplane geek before he enlisted and when he got out he is a complete weirdo/psycho.
    War and violence can only do so much to a person's mental well-being. Tsk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    I'll never understand the argument if someone is insane or not after murdering people. How can someone say they are not insane? They just went and murdered another life; obviously this event doesn't follow the daily life of a sane person.
    Yes! You have a point there.

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