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    Trumps tax plan is just flat out crazy

    Moving me away from being a trump supporter ....largest tax cuts in history for the rich and corporations whilst we are already defaulting from national debt. I don't believe in socialism but there has to be a sense of reasonable taxation to makeup for the fact we are spending trillions of dollars a year on bullshit like the military (pointlessly invading countries despite no country having a snowballs chance in hell of successfully attacking us), Medicaid (+Obamacare...healthcare for those who have never paid a medical bill or any other bill in their life anyway), Medicare (trying to get 88 year olds to last another couple years in the nursing home) and SS (totally unfunded ponzi scheme) and of course interest on the 20 trillion we owe.

    To suggest slashing the rich and corporate taxes without massive cuts to these programs is suicidal....I believe US taxes are reasonable at the federal level....of course federal spending is insane so even with reasonable taxation and historically low interest rates we have a 2 trillion annual deficit. Even if the budget were balanced and these programs slashed to the bone having massive corporate and rich tax cuts at this point in time are a ridiculous notion and would do to the national debt nearly as much destruction as Obama has done

    No one left to vote for...sad

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    funny thing is of all his ideas that is not in the top 10 for crazy

    guy is a wack nut job but hes living the dream with all the attention and redneck followers and enjoying his extended 15 minutes of fame on this ride. really been incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    funny thing is of all his ideas that is not in the top 10 for crazy

    guy is a wack nut job but hes living the dream with all the attention and redneck followers and enjoying his extended 15 minutes of fame on this ride. really been incredible.
    I honestly don't think he ever wanted to win.

    Just a publicity stunt. He's probably as stunned as anyone that his campaign still has a heartbeat.

    Posters here who take him seriously and defend him have to be among the dumbest human beings on the planet.

    And this is coming from a poster who has zero intentions to vote for Hillary.

    Election turnout will be a record low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettilimbroke999 View Post
    Moving me away from being a trump supporter ....largest tax cuts in history for the rich and corporations whilst we are already defaulting from national debt. I don't believe in socialism but there has to be a sense of reasonable taxation to makeup for the fact we are spending trillions of dollars a year on bullshit like the military (pointlessly invading countries despite no country having a snowballs chance in hell of successfully attacking us), Medicaid (+Obamacare...healthcare for those who have never paid a medical bill or any other bill in their life anyway), Medicare (trying to get 88 year olds to last another couple years in the nursing home) and SS (totally unfunded ponzi scheme) and of course interest on the 20 trillion we owe.

    To suggest slashing the rich and corporate taxes without massive cuts to these programs is suicidal....I believe US taxes are reasonable at the federal level....of course federal spending is insane so even with reasonable taxation and historically low interest rates we have a 2 trillion annual deficit. Even if the budget were balanced and these programs slashed to the bone having massive corporate and rich tax cuts at this point in time are a ridiculous notion and would do to the national debt nearly as much destruction as Obama has done

    No one left to vote for...sad


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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post

    And this is coming from a poster who has zero intentions to vote for Hillary.

    Election turnout will be a record low.
    This is the one year I might sit out as well. I can't stand either candidate. Sad. I'm hoping an independent will step up and gain steam. I really think we could write someone in and they might have a great shot of actually winning. My vote would be for Mark Cuban. Let's get millions of people to write him in.
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    Oh, and Trump is the biggest flip flopper. He'll say one thing and do something totally different from what he just said. He talks before he thinks which is very alarming trait. He cares only about one thing and that's himself. I could see him stepping down after being elected just to feed his ego.
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    You have to cut corporate taxes. We have the 3rd highest corporate tax rate in the world. The only countries with a higher rate is Chad and the UAE. A lower corporate tax rate would help get companies to stay here.

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    He's gonna make Mexico pay for the deficit

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    You ain't seen nothing yet from Trump. Part of me doesn't want him to be the President but part of me wants him so he can screw up the lives of those who vote for him. Nothing satisfies me more than people shooting themselves in the foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You ain't seen nothing yet from Trump. Part of me doesn't want him to be the President but part of wants him so he can screw up the lives of those who voted for him. Nothing satisfies me more than people shooting themselves in the foot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    You have to cut corporate taxes. We have the 3rd highest corporate tax rate in the world. The only countries with a higher rate is Chad and the UAE. A lower corporate tax rate would help get companies to stay here.
    But, the foreign effective tax rate is not much lower than the U.S. domestic tax rate. I agree we need to cut and especially simplify our tax code but companies have been offshoring a bunch of jobs because labor is so damn cheap in these 3rd world places. You can hire 10 foreign workers for the same cost of one American. That's crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    But, the foreign effective tax rate is not much lower than the U.S. domestic tax rate. I agree we need to cut and especially simplify our tax code but companies have been offshoring a bunch of jobs because labor is so damn cheap in these 3rd world places. You can hire 10 foreign workers slaves for the same cost of one American. That's crazy.
    Fixed it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    But, the foreign effective tax rate is not much lower than the U.S. domestic tax rate. I agree we need to cut and especially simplify our tax code but companies have been offshoring a bunch of jobs because labor is so damn cheap in these 3rd world places. You can hire 10 foreign workers for the same cost of one American. That's crazy.
    nail on head.

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    All moot since he will not win the general election.

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    Talk about adding insult to injury this Drumpf goof is a complete catastrophe. Everything is a train wreck with this guy. Hillary may not be the be all end all but she's got my vote if it's a choice between her & bozo the clown drumpf

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    Paul Ryan wants to cut taxes from 39% to 33% for the rich.

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    He is not winning so no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    This is the one year I might sit out as well. I can't stand either candidate. Sad. I'm hoping an independent will step up and gain steam. I really think we could write someone in and they might have a great shot of actually winning. My vote would be for Mark Cuban. Let's get millions of people to write him in.
    I have zero interest in backing Clinton, and even less in voting for Trump.

    I'd feel terrible walking out of the booth having cast a vote for either.

    I'll either write someone in or stay home (which I've never done in the nearly 25 years I've been eligible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Oh, and Trump is the biggest flip flopper. He'll say one thing and do something totally different from what he just said. He talks before he thinks which is very alarming trait. He cares only about one thing and that's himself. I could see him stepping down after being elected just to feed his ego.
    That because he has no fvcking clue what he's talking about.

    I'm literally embarrassed to be an American right now, given he's going to actually get the nomination from one of the two parties in the ring. It's a total joke, and anyone backing him should just quit paying attention to anything important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    All moot since he will not win the general election.
    He has less than zero chance, which means it'll be Hillary, which scares the shit out of me.

    I've said it a million times: how do you think he'll win the general election with no backing from women or minorities? It's literally impossible.

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    Paul Ryan paid for his college off social security disability insurance but wants to do away with everyone elses. Can i PLEASE have all the money I paid back into this PONZI scheme. Now I was self employed most those years which means I paid mine and the companies part. Most years I maxed it out so Please give it back. My sister in law died at age 45 and was in management most of her life. Where did hers go. Just lost a friend that was in charge of human resources for last 20 years but she was only 55. Where did that go? I know to fund these wars that we never asked the public to pay for. When general dynamics can get paid 25 dollars for a bolt that cost 1.00 to make. My father worked at aeronica aeronautical in middletown ohio(chris carter and butch carters aunt and cousin worked for him) . He built the heat shield for the appolos space. yes they sub-contracted but he only made 55,000 dollars for that but somehow the cost to the tax payers was over 300 million. He built the first back blast plate for the 747 and at time would of cost 10 million if he screwed up but I guess you get my jest why the military cost so much.

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    Ryan's a piece of shit. From what I get through the grape vine, house Repubs think so too, but according to him, he
    has the finger on the pulse of the minority community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is not winning so no worries
    you bipolar fukk

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    Hillary is the war mongering wall street candidate. Libertarian for me

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    feel the johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettilimbroke999 View Post
    Moving me away from being a trump supporter ....largest tax cuts in history for the rich and corporations whilst we are already defaulting from national debt. I don't believe in socialism but there has to be a sense of reasonable taxation to makeup for the fact we are spending trillions of dollars a year on bullshit like the military (pointlessly invading countries despite no country having a snowballs chance in hell of successfully attacking us), Medicaid (+Obamacare...healthcare for those who have never paid a medical bill or any other bill in their life anyway), Medicare (trying to get 88 year olds to last another couple years in the nursing home) and SS (totally unfunded ponzi scheme) and of course interest on the 20 trillion we owe.

    To suggest slashing the rich and corporate taxes without massive cuts to these programs is suicidal....I believe US taxes are reasonable at the federal level....of course federal spending is insane so even with reasonable taxation and historically low interest rates we have a 2 trillion annual deficit. Even if the budget were balanced and these programs slashed to the bone having massive corporate and rich tax cuts at this point in time are a ridiculous notion and would do to the national debt nearly as much destruction as Obama has done

    No one left to vote for...sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is not winning so no worries
    You flip flop more than Trump. Not easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l7ustin View Post
    feel the johnson
    I just can't understand why Republicans would support a racist reality TV goof over two two-term Republican governors with track records of fiscal responsibility. Somebody needs to help me on that. Johnson and Weld are way more Republican than Trump ever was or will be.

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    You could vote for Hilary and then also vote for republican legislators. Be another blissful 4 years of gridlock and political waste of time. They could all just as well stay home because none of them are earning their money. Shake a few hands - take a few selfies - waste the taxpayer's money again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    You could vote for Hilary and then also vote for republican legislators. Be another blissful 4 years of gridlock and political waste of time. They could all just as well stay home because none of them are earning their money. Shake a few hands - take a few selfies - waste the taxpayer's money again!
    Depends how many seats dems steal

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I just can't understand why Republicans would support a racist reality TV goof over two two-term Republican governors with track records of fiscal responsibility. Somebody needs to help me on that. Johnson and Weld are way more Republican than Trump ever was or will be.
    He's a looney toon, pretty simple

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    Now he's flip flopping on Muslim's and the Wall in Mexico. You can't make this shit up.
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    I still cannot get over the comment over the night club shooting in Orlando.

    "Too bad none of the other customers had weapons of their own" Holy Cow - that is bad on so many levels.

    1. Let's all bring guns into bars and get drunk - how many people will get shot over this.

    2. The other guy had a big time weapon with lots of ammo - the other patrons would have small pistols.

    3. Then a patron has to get their pistol out and hit this guy - how many people could hit him from 20 feet or more?

    4. Guess what happens about 1 second after the patron misses the terrorist with their pistol shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJD31 View Post
    He's a looney toon, pretty simple
    Exactly. So why would anyone support Trump? Just because of the (R) next to the name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    I still cannot get over the comment over the night club shooting in Orlando.

    "Too bad none of the other customers had weapons of their own" Holy Cow - that is bad on so many levels.

    1. Let's all bring guns into bars and get drunk - how many people will get shot over this.

    2. The other guy had a big time weapon with lots of ammo - the other patron would have small pistols.

    3. Then a patron has to get their pistol out and hit this guy - how many people could hit him from 20 feet or more?

    4. Guess what happens about 1 second after the patron misses the terrorist with their pistol shot?
    He's since reversed on that also. Whenever he takes a position, it's just starts the countdown to him changing it. Never seen a candidate get away with flip-flopping on everything. Didn't they brand Kerry as a flip-flopper? How is Trump not completely branded as a flip-flopper?

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