1. 06-02-16 01:59 AM #36
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    Take out LeBrick. Not clinch enough, choke in the big games etc.
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  2. 06-02-16 08:38 AM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    career shares of mvp voting

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...res.html?redir
    Who cares about voting? That's just an opinion. How about career PER. Here's the top 25:

    Rank Player PER
    1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
    2. LeBron James 27.65
    3. Shaquille O'Neal* 26.43
    4. David Robinson* 26.18
    5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
    6. Chris Paul 25.68
    7. Bob Pettit* 25.35
    8. Kevin Durant 25.04
    9. Neil Johnston* 24.69
    10. Dwyane Wade 24.67
    11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
    12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
    13. Tim Duncan 24.22
    14. Magic Johnson* 24.11
    15. Karl Malone* 23.90
    16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
    17. Larry Bird* 23.50
    18. Stephen Curry 23.23
    19. Oscar Robertson* 23.17
    20. Dirk Nowitzki 23.05
    21. Yao Ming* 23.02
    22. Kobe Bryant 22.90
    23. Jerry West* 22.89
    24. Russell Westbrook 22.88
    25. Elgin Baylor* 22.69

    The most underrated player in this discussion is Shaq. The most overrated are Bird and Magic.
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  3. 06-02-16 08:41 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by jizay View Post
    Who cares about voting? That's just an opinion. How about career PER. Here's the top 25:

    Rank Player PER
    1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
    2. LeBron James 27.65
    3. Shaquille O'Neal* 26.43
    4. David Robinson* 26.18
    5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
    6. Chris Paul 25.68
    7. Bob Pettit* 25.35
    8. Kevin Durant 25.04
    9. Neil Johnston* 24.69
    10. Dwyane Wade 24.67
    11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
    12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
    13. Tim Duncan 24.22
    14. Magic Johnson* 24.11
    15. Karl Malone* 23.90
    16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
    17. Larry Bird* 23.50
    18. Stephen Curry 23.23
    19. Oscar Robertson* 23.17
    20. Dirk Nowitzki 23.05
    21. Yao Ming* 23.02
    22. Kobe Bryant 22.90
    23. Jerry West* 22.89
    24. Russell Westbrook 22.88
    25. Elgin Baylor* 22.69

    The most underrated player in this discussion is Shaq. The most overrated are Bird and Magic.
    yes, lets just look at points per game and not worry about defense, rebounds, assists
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  4. 06-02-16 08:58 AM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    yes, lets just look at points per game and not worry about defense, rebounds, assists
    ..PER attempts to factor in all of that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_efficiency_rating
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  5. 06-02-16 09:06 AM #40
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    Subtract whoever doesnt have at least 2 MVP awards.
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  6. 06-19-16 09:38 PM #41
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    delete Curry

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