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    ATL Hawks.....are TERRIBLE..ATS..staying away from -6.5

    Hawks Suck against the spread...but I'm taking all the value I can get by taking the UNDER...for the 1st half and the Full Game....SU the Hawks are also a good value....stay away from the -6.5 ATL....perhaps consider taking BOSTON at +6.5?

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    I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

    Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.

    That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.

    But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.

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    They were also 20 units profit ATS last year overwhelmingly the best team ATS in the league, and the best team ATS during a season for the past 10 seasons tracked -- so basically the opposite of what you just barfed onto the forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

    Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    12:31 AM
    [Ticket #: 256790280] PARLAY (8 TEAMS)
    04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [524] ATL HAWKS -6.5 -110
    04/19/2016 @ 08:35 PM NBA [526] SA SPURS -18.5 -105
    04/20/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [528] MIA HEAT -5-105
    04/20/2016 @ 07:05 PM NBA [530] CLE CAVALIERS -10.5 -105
    04/20/2016 @ 09:35 PM NBA [532] LA CLIPPERS -8.5 -110
    04/21/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [533] OKC THUNDER -8-105
    04/21/2016 @ 06:35 PM NBA [535] TOR RAPTORS -1-110
    04/21/2016 @ 06:35 PM NBA [535] TOTAL o193-110
    (TOR RAPTORS vrs IND PACERS)
    3.43 658.57
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:00 PM
    [Ticket #: 256871943] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [1524] 1H ATL HAWKS -3.5 -115
    7.30 6.35
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:01 PM
    [Ticket #: 256872057] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [3524] 1Q ATL HAWKS -2-120
    7.62 6.35
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:01 PM
    [Ticket #: 256872183] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [4524] 2Q ATL HAWKS -1.5 -110
    6.99 6.35
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:03 PM
    [Ticket #: 256872537] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [524] TOTAL u206-110
    (BOS CELTICS vrs ATL HAWKS)
    8.90 8.09
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:06 PM
    [Ticket #: 256873284] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [1524] TOTAL u99-105
    (1H BOS CELTICS vrs 1H ATL HAWKS)
    6.85 6.52
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:08 PM
    [Ticket #: 256873596] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [6524] 4Q ATL HAWKS -1-115
    7.30 6.35
    ONLINE
    04/19/2016
    05:09 PM
    ok..
    [Ticket #: 256873772] STRAIGHT BET
    04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [524] TOTAL u206.5 -110
    (BOS CELTICS vrs ATL HAWKS)
    4.95 4.50
    That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.

    But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
    ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

    Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.
    ok....
    That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.

    here you go....
    Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1
    But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
    ok.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter341975 View Post
    ok.....
    wait this is better....
    Straight-Up Against The Spread Over/Under
    Team Total Home Away Total Home Away Total Home Away
    Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1

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    is that the right score? boston scored 3 points in 6 minutes? that has to be some type of playoffs record. that's hard to do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghenghis kahn View Post
    is that the right score? Boston scored 3 points in 6 minutes? That has to be some type of playoffs record. That's hard to do...
    awesome!

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    Celtics are done. Hawks up by 20. This time there is no come back. Hawks are gone sweep Boston. Brad Stevens is in over his head. Back to back 0-4 playoff exits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NardVa View Post
    Celtics are done. Hawks up by 20. This time there is no come back. Hawks are gone sweep Boston. Brad Stevens is in over his head. Back to back 0-4 playoff exits.
    loving my UNDER..and Quarters bets/half bets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    is that the right score? boston scored 3 points in 6 minutes? that has to be some type of playoffs record. that's hard to do...
    Brad Stevens is a horrible playoff coach. 4 games last year and 2 this year have all been disaster.

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    Is this a mikefan style reverse jinx thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NardVa View Post
    Brad Stevens is a horrible playoff coach. 4 games last year and 2 this year have all been disaster.
    Really? They were pretty competitive vs the cavs last year.

    They lost bradley. Btw boston is a shit team only looking good cause of Stevens coaching. Very few nba coaches would have gotten this squad into the playoffs.

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    Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
    Straight-Up Against The Spread Over/Under
    Team Total Home Away Total Home Away Total Home Away
    Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1

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    so many fades here

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
    it would be like flipping a coin.....

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    How does Paul Millsap's schlong feel deep in OP's ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
    wonder if yall can even read

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

    Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.

    That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.


    Straight-Up Against The Spread Over/Under
    Team Total Home Away Total Home Away Total Home Away
    Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1
    But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
    winning 2 more games ATS than losing ATS..must be fing AWESOME!! (in ur mind)

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    You might want to find a better database, that one is crap even the worst one on the net is better than that one

    http://killersports.com/nba/query_matrix


    team = Hawks and 20151001 <= date
    SU: 49-34 (3.58, 59.0%)
    ATS: 42-39-2 (0.04, 51.9%) avg line: -3.5



    eam = Hawks and line <= -5 and 20151001 <= date
    SU: 26-10 (8.97, 72.2%)
    ATS: 21-14-1 (0.75, 60.0%) avg line: -8.2


    team = Hawks and site = home and line <= -5 and 20151001 <= date
    SU: 22-8 (7.60, 73.3%)
    ATS: 17-12-1 (-0.52, 58.6%) avg line: -8.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    You might want to find a better database, that one is crap even the worst one on the net is better than that one

    http://killersports.com/nba/query_matrixNBA Against the Spread Rankings at VegasInsider.com ...

    <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.vegasinsider.com/nba/against-the-spread/</cite>




    NBA Against the Spread Rankings provided by VegasInsider.com, along with ...Atlanta Hawks, 48-34-0, 27-14-0, 21-20-0, 41-39-2, 21-19-1, 20-20-1, 38-43-1 ......thats where I got it from..if its wrong..its wrong



    team = Hawks and 20151001 <= date
    SU: 49-34 (3.58, 59.0%)
    ATS: 42-39-2 (0.04, 51.9%) avg line: -3.5



    eam = Hawks and line <= -5 and 20151001 <= date
    SU: 26-10 (8.97, 72.2%)
    ATS: 21-14-1 (0.75, 60.0%) avg line: -8.2


    team = Hawks and site = home and line <= -5 and 20151001 <= date
    SU: 22-8 (7.60, 73.3%)
    ATS: 17-12-1 (-0.52, 58.6%) avg line: -8.1
    thats where I got it from

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter341975 View Post
    thats where I got it from
    if its wrong...fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter341975 View Post
    it would be like flipping a coin.....
    My bad, I eat crow on this one, you are right. I was going by what guy had posted saying their ats was 46-35 when thats more like their SU record. My bad for this one, although I wouldnt call that horrible still, that means the book has them about pegged right, most teams ats are around .500, the horrible teams are usually the big public teams everyone like to bet on that are overpriced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    My bad, I eat crow on this one, you are right. I was going by what guy had posted saying their ats was 46-35 when thats more like their SU record. My bad for this one, although I wouldnt call that horrible still, that means the book has them about pegged right, most teams ats are around .500, the horrible teams are usually the big public teams everyone like to bet on that are overpriced.
    understood..thanks for "eating crow"....I eat it often too

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    You need about 5 databases to have a 'fair' estimate then you have to hand check any that are 2pt or less ATS losseswins to see how the lines moved. Obviously the numbers I posted in my first response were against best available, against worst available they lose 3 or 4 games overall (from my numbers) and 2 as a 5 pt or more fav.

    They are a hot action team, generally dont see that much difference from best to worst for a single team. A couple others are habitually 'bad' and Atl is one of them. Makes for some OK middle shots (but so many chances it is almost not worth it.

    But even so 1 or 2 games over .500 still doesnt make them 'terrible' and in the subset of a 5 or more pt favorite you cant make them a loser ATS even with the worst possible number.

    Lakers are a terrible ATS team (but they have been for 15 years), Bulls, 76ers OKC and Cle would be borderline terible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    My bad, I eat crow on this one, you are right. I was going by what guy had posted saying their ats was 46-35 when thats more like their SU record. My bad for this one, although I wouldnt call that horrible still, that means the book has them about pegged right, most teams ats are around .500, the horrible teams are usually the big public teams everyone like to bet on that are overpriced.

    BTW...best of luck to ya'..on your bets.....I'm running 3/4 on the ATL game right now...got the UNDER..the 1st quarter...and the -3.5 half....(lost the 2nd quarter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter341975 View Post
    BTW...best of luck to ya'..on your bets.....I'm running 3/4 on the ATL game right now...got the UNDER..the 1st quarter...and the -3.5 half....(lost the 2nd quarter)
    Good luck Cutter, hope that parlay cashes for ya, I try to do that type thing daily myself with a couple 5 dollar bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    You need about 5 databases to have a 'fair' estimate then you have to hand check any that are 2pt or less ATS losses to see how the lines moved. Obviously the numbers I posted in my first response were against best available, against worst available they lose 3 or 4 games overall (from my numbers) and 2 as a 5 pt or more fav.

    They are a hot action team, generally dont see that much difference from best to worst for a single team. A couple others are habitually 'bad' and Atl is one of them. Makes for some OK middle shots (but so many chances it is almost not worth it.



    But even so 1 or 2 games over .500 still doesnt make them 'terrible' and in the subset of a 5 or more pt favorite you cant make them a loser ATS even with the worst possible number.
    ok, "fair enough"...at basically .500 ATS..I don't feel comfortable with that....however, ATL's SU record is pretty "legit"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Good luck Cutter, hope that parlay cashes for ya, I try to do that type thing daily myself with a couple 5 dollar bets.

    Much aprreciated!....I get "a lil excited" at times....but I am hopeful we can ALL make money (small change)...or (BIG)

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    hawks will choke they are chokers and have been doing so all year as you saw in game 1.

    Celtics +1100 ML Live is what I hit along with spread of +14.5.

    They will come back OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballin24 View Post
    hawks will choke they are chokers and have been doing so all year as you saw in game 1.

    Celtics +1100 ML Live is what I hit along with spread of +14.5.

    They will come back OP
    Very nice spread!!! GL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballin24 View Post
    hawks will choke they are chokers and have been doing so all year as you saw in game 1.

    Celtics +1100 ML Live is what I hit along with spread of +14.5.

    They will come back OP

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