View Poll Results: Will Rick Carlisle Be Fired If Mavs Miss The Playoffs?

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  • Yes – Mark Cuban Doesn’t Take Any Sh#$

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  • No – Mavs Had A Ton Of Injuries. It’s Not Rick’s Fault.

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  1. 03-28-16 02:30 AM #1
    TheMoneyShot
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    Will Rick Carlisle Be Fired If Mavs Miss The Playoffs?

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  2. 03-28-16 02:56 AM #2
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    No he brought them a championship. And hes working with scrubs.
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  3. 03-28-16 03:07 AM #3
    Ralphie Halves
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    Carlisle an above average coach that doesn't have the horses to compete. Cuban smart enough to realize this.
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  4. 03-28-16 04:14 AM #4
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    Top 3 coach in the NBA. No chance.
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  5. 03-28-16 04:28 AM #5
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    they have the weakest roster theyve had in years... and cuban probably sucks him off too
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  6. 03-28-16 10:43 AM #6
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    Undeniably Top 10, with zero chance of getting fired.
    So many BOOB head coaches in the league now, with more loser, zipperheads on TV waiting for their next chance to get
    guaranteed money.
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  7. 03-28-16 10:50 AM #7
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    Only if you can name 5 better current nba coaches
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  8. 03-28-16 11:00 AM #8
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    They keep getting worse

    Cuban not a good owner
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  9. 03-28-16 12:02 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    They keep getting worse

    Cuban not a good owner
    Really? Tell us more Corbin
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  10. 03-28-16 12:35 PM #10
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    The Mavs weren't expected to make the playoffs according to a lot of expert predictions. Teams like the Pelicans and Jazz were expected to make a jump.

    They came into the season with Matthews expected to return in December from achiles surgery. Parsons also out until December from knee injury.

    Their early season success was a big surprise and with the West being very mediocre made it look like they'd be comfortably in the playoffs.

    Now... I do think Carlisle has mismanaged this team. He is obsessed with playing multiple point guards at the same time and they keep getting burned on defense because they're so outmatched against far more athletic teams. Namely Barea... he literally can't guard anyone... and without anyone in the lineup to cover up for him... it's pretty bleak for the Mavs.

    I can't guarantee the results would be different if he had given a guy like Justin Anderson more of a chance, but it wouldn't have hurt. It's comical at times to see the switches on defense with a guy like Barea on Gay or Barnes.

    Still, Carlisle has the second safest job in the league and he signed a huge contract earlier in this season. They can lose every game and he'll be around.
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  11. 03-28-16 07:41 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Halves View Post
    Carlisle an above average coach that doesn't have the horses to compete. Cuban smart enough to realize this.
    I agree about the coach part. I don't know exactly what Cuban would be thinking about though.


    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Top 3 coach in the NBA. No chance.
    Yes. Super high quality coach... but has he lost the connection with the team?


    I say you have to fire him. I think he's lost that superior connection. There's simply no belief to win.
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  12. 03-28-16 10:01 PM #12
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    that would be an absolutely retarded decision by management.
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  13. 03-28-16 10:44 PM #13
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    He's the head of the coaches union for a reason: he has one of the safest gigs in the league. So many owners/ GMs pray that they can turn the fortunes of their team around by making a snap change ...Mark Cuban is not so stupid.
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  14. 03-29-16 12:50 AM #14
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    The Mavs are in the no-man's land. No idea what they can do in this spot. Dirk really should retire and they got a huge lemon in DWill. If I were Cuban I would completely nuke that roster, maybe get into the race to the bottom for the next 2-3 year; but I do not think he is interested in that. If I were Carlisle, I would quit and look for something better to do with my life. That team is not going to be competitive at least over the next 3-5 years.
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  15. 03-29-16 01:33 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    that would be an absolutely retarded decision by management.

    Quote Originally Posted by IBetYou View Post
    He's the head of the coaches union for a reason: he has one of the safest gigs in the league. So many owners/ GMs pray that they can turn the fortunes of their team around by making a snap change ...Mark Cuban is not so stupid.
    Um... why did the Detroit Pistons fire him in 2003?

    Next year or whatever.... Pistons won the Championship with Larry Brown.


    Why did the Indiana Pacers fire him in 2007 if he's so good?


    Again... he's a good coach. But if you've lost that passion to play for your coach.... the coach must be fired.
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  16. 03-29-16 05:01 AM #16
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    I don't think anyone's lost their passion to play for him. Parsons is OUT for the season, Williams is hurt (nothing new there). Mathews is just 1 year removed from a torn ACL. Their FA plans came crashing down last summer and that has ultimately spoiled their season.

    To say that they're out of the playoff picture because the players don't like the coach is well wide of the mark.
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  17. 03-29-16 07:45 AM #17
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    They keep thinking they can get a big fish in free agency and so far have been unsuccessful this team was not a playoff team and over performed you dont get fired as a coach for that you get rewarded.

    They won last night so who knows maybe they can still get in
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  18. 03-29-16 07:59 AM #18
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    fire them all, then move the team to montreal
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  19. 03-29-16 08:00 AM #19
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    We are seeing big name free agents most of the time in all sports do not have a big impact on team success

    Teams win not one player
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  20. 03-29-16 08:55 AM #20
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    in basketball you need stars. lebron makes the finals every year no matter what team hes on.
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  21. 03-29-16 09:48 AM #21
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    Spurs, Golden St, Bulls all built up in organization

    How many titles do they have?
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  22. 03-29-16 11:42 AM #22
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    bulls won all of their titles when they had the best player ever to play basketball. Duncan is probably top ten to ever play and all of the spurs rings can be attributed to him.
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  23. 04-06-16 08:56 PM #23
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    Can Carlisle win tonight?
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  24. 04-06-16 09:04 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by l7ustin View Post
    in basketball you need stars. lebron makes the finals every year no matter what team hes on.
    Tell him to go the west
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  25. 04-06-16 10:10 PM #25
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    no they have a bad roster unless you blame him for bad free agents.
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  26. 04-06-16 10:22 PM #26
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    Many think he's a pretty good coach always keep some competitive which is a sign of a good coach
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  27. 04-07-16 01:35 AM #27
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    You know who is really making this coach look bad? Rondo. He looks like a stud PG in Sactown but Carlisle wouldn't swallow his pride and give the reigns to him for the good of the team. For a while it looked like Rondo was making the Kings a playoff team. The Mavs could have had the NBA assist leader but instead they have JJ Barea getting 37 minutes.

    But...It seems like coaches usually get fired when the roster is perceived to be on the way up. No new coaches want to be in Fred Hoiberg's position where things are on the way down and you are the fall guy.
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  28. 04-07-16 03:24 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    You know who is really making this coach look bad? Rondo. He looks like a stud PG in Sactown but Carlisle wouldn't swallow his pride and give the reigns to him for the good of the team. For a while it looked like Rondo was making the Kings a playoff team. The Mavs could have had the NBA assist leader but instead they have JJ Barea getting 37 minutes.

    But...It seems like coaches usually get fired when the roster is perceived to be on the way up. No new coaches want to be in Fred Hoiberg's position where things are on the way down and you are the fall guy.
    Rondo is awful. He's just a stat stuffer. He can't make a jump shot, which means every play has to run through him -hence the gaudy stats. And then he doesn't defend. Now he has the Kings by the balls in FA because Cousins likes him, and will create a stink if they don't re-sign him. I prefer Collison personally. You also have to bear in mind Rondo has been on his v.best behaviour because he's in a contract year. I pity whoever coaches that team next year.
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  29. 04-07-16 04:43 AM #29
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    what was the logic two weeks ago "resting" all the starters @ golden state? were they conceding the loss and resting the stars while they were tied for 8th spot or was there something else i missed cause ive never seen starters "rested" while tied for playoff spot with single digit games left?
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  30. 04-07-16 08:17 AM #30
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    as soon as Williams got hurt Dallas got better

    Biggest lost in NBA
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  31. 04-07-16 08:40 AM #31
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    Mavs problem is that they are always mediocre so they make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed and therefore do not get a good draft pick.

    They try to patch up their roster every year with retread free agents and it just doesn't work

    They need to rebuild from the ground up... getting too old.
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  32. 04-07-16 09:35 AM #32
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    Of all the dumb threads you've started (and the list is very long), this one takes the cake.

    Cuban wants to keep Carlisle for as long as he wants to be in Dallas. He sees him as "our Jerry Sloan".

    Who picked this team to make the playoffs before the season? Almost nobody. The fact that they're still in it despite the injuries is remarkable.
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  33. 04-07-16 09:36 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    as soon as Williams got hurt Dallas got better

    Biggest lost in NBA
    Might have something to do with the guy filling in for him thinking he's Steph Curry all of a sudden.
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  34. 04-07-16 09:38 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedirk View Post
    The Mavs weren't expected to make the playoffs according to a lot of expert predictions. Teams like the Pelicans and Jazz were expected to make a jump.

    They came into the season with Matthews expected to return in December from achiles surgery. Parsons also out until December from knee injury.

    Their early season success was a big surprise and with the West being very mediocre made it look like they'd be comfortably in the playoffs.

    Now... I do think Carlisle has mismanaged this team. He is obsessed with playing multiple point guards at the same time and they keep getting burned on defense because they're so outmatched against far more athletic teams. Namely Barea... he literally can't guard anyone... and without anyone in the lineup to cover up for him... it's pretty bleak for the Mavs.

    I can't guarantee the results would be different if he had given a guy like Justin Anderson more of a chance, but it wouldn't have hurt. It's comical at times to see the switches on defense with a guy like Barea on Gay or Barnes.

    Still, Carlisle has the second safest job in the league and he signed a huge contract earlier in this season. They can lose every game and he'll be around.
    Other than Anderson and Parsons (who is now hurt and was playing quite a bit of his minutes at the 4), who is a real small forward on this team? The 3-guard lineups are a necessity, not a tactical choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    Mavs problem is that they are always mediocre so they make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed and therefore do not get a good draft pick.

    They try to patch up their roster every year with retread free agents and it just doesn't work

    They need to rebuild from the ground up... getting too old.
    I give them credit for always taken the best availables and going to battle. Cant see em doing anything different until Dirk retires after 2(?) more seasons.

    I hate to say if but if Deandre didnt pull out this team could have been 3rd in the west. Undo the Parson injury and you have a threat to GSW because its a terrible matchup for them...wouldnt be a sweep anyhow.
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