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03-06-16 03:49 PM #141
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03-06-16 03:56 PM #142
Jj if these guys are getting payed only 500 k for a event that brings in millions can they be bought?
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03-06-16 04:23 PM #143
Buck most guys not getting much, owner makes it all
Originally Posted by pilebuck13
I would think yes
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03-06-16 04:24 PM #144
He didn't think he would gas either, with all the energy he kept talking about he had at 170, and he thought no one could take his left hand, diaz is one of few people that can, shouldn't have Threw all that spinning shit with someone as good as diaz As judging range, and shouldn't have threw his whole body behind every punch, shoulda just picked him apart and won a dec if he had to, be more selective with his punches. Glad I only lost a couple units on it, in the long run. It's a positive, it's gonna set up some big pay days getting the Irish atm at better lines in his next couple fights, he was starting to get Ronda Rousey syndrom, he's a smart dude, this. Is gonna make him better. Originally Posted by mirinquads
That's exactly what I said in the other thread. Doesnt change the fact that he doesnt leg kick, doesnt have a jab. If a fighter changes his style radically for 5 fights straight, one can't expect him to suddenly go back to what he did in the past. Conor was going to come out pressuring. Just thought that would be enough, and didn't see him gassing that hard at all. - But that's what happens when you pack so much muscle and weight on a frame that's not used to it.
Boxers usually jump weightclasses 2-3 pounds at a time, go back down, then go back up etc. What Mcgregor did was ballsy as penetrate, but his body wasn't there for him. One of his coaches should have told him this is how it works, instead of hitting him with foam poolnoodles and doing this shit:
Last edited by JoshKnows46; 03-06-16 at 04:34 PM.
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03-06-16 04:36 PM #145
The fight ended the way he predicted but instead of diaz panic wrestling, him getting mount then the back and subbing diaz, it went the exact oppsite, with him panic wrestling.
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03-06-16 04:39 PM #146
Conor got rope-a-doped! He shot his wad in the 1st round & punched himself out. Rookie mistake to not pace himself. All of Ireland are crying in their Guinness'! Nate Diaz peed in their Lucky Charms! Originally Posted by PaperTrail07
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03-06-16 04:45 PM #147
What was disheartening to see, was mcgregor gave up the back knowing he'd get finished and gave his neck up to be choked, head high for diaz to sink it in and didn't fight it, he wanted out the fight, he is a front runner in that sense, diaz took his will to fight when mcgregor couldn't put him away With his best shots and was gassed. He took the easy way out.
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03-06-16 04:48 PM #148
Originally Posted by JoshKnows46
Bingo.
Mac pussied out.
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03-06-16 04:56 PM #149
Well I'll say one thing. There have been a lot of HUGE upsets over the last 12 months or so. It has seemed a little fishy. Originally Posted by jjgold
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03-06-16 05:10 PM #150
It's almost as if the underdog gets something good slipped to them. TJ looked other worldly when he took the title from Barao compared to his previous fight with Mike Easton. It's like he jumped up levels in a couple of months. Wonderboy vs Hendricks was another example of a fighter jumping up levels in a matter of a couple of months. It's like their reflexes are just better. I'm not saying that everything is not on the up & up. I'm just saying.........
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03-06-16 05:31 PM #151
It is very fishy
good viewing though
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03-06-16 05:33 PM #152
Spoken like a true champion...
" I stormed in and put it all on the line. I took a shot and missed.
I will never apologize for taking a shot.
Shit happens.
I'll take this loss like a man. I will not shy away from it. I will not change who I am. If another champion goes up 2 weights let me know.
If your tired of me talking money, take a nap.
I'll still be here when you wake up with the highest PPV and the gate. Still talking multi 7's.
Thank you to the true support and fuc.k the hate that came out of the woodwork. I love it all. Its still steak for breakfast.
I've been here many times in my life in some form or another. I'll eat it all and come back stronger.
Aldo you are a pussy. Dos anjos you are a pussy.
When the history books are written, I showed up. You showed up on Twitter.
To the fans! Never ever shy away from challenges. Never run from adversity. Face yourself head on.
Nate I will see you again."
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03-06-16 05:36 PM #153
Aldo might be a pussy, but I don't know how he can call Dos Anjos a pussy. He has a legitimate broken foot. I highly doubt Conor would fight with a broken foot. He is delusional if he thinks that RDA didn't want that big pay day. Originally Posted by JoshKnows46
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03-06-16 05:39 PM #154
Connor finished a fight with Holloway injured and fought mendes with a torn acl mcl, he fights with worse injurys then a bruised foot. How do u break a foot that close to a fight...rda was scared, then he continued to run his mouth on twitter after he pull out. 4 guys have pulled out of fights with him now, he breaks them mentally, he couldn't break nate mentally. Originally Posted by Kermit
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03-06-16 05:48 PM #155
Interesting to see Holm trying like heck to get out of the RNC until she eventually fell unconscious, and then you had Conor who tapped as soon as the choke was sunk in. Originally Posted by JoshKnows46
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03-06-16 05:51 PM #156
Also, huge props to Tate who showed the heart of a champion and got it done. Her accomplishment should be celebrated.
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03-06-16 05:53 PM #157
Holm was 2 minutes from victory, mcgregor was a beaten man in the 2nd, he choose to be choked out over knocked out, diaz's chin and his gas being emptyed so early, took away his will to fight. He was asking to be choked out, As a fan of mcgregor, that was sad to see. Originally Posted by Ultimatemeatball
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03-06-16 06:24 PM #158
Well then RDA purposely broke his foot to miss out on a huge payday, because I have seen pictures of it and it was pretty nasty. Originally Posted by JoshKnows46
Many fighters have fought with injuries before. I don't think Conor's ACL injury that he annouced after the Mendes fight was as bad as he made it sound(he claims it was 80% torn), otherwise he would have had surgery afterwards, which he didn't. Last I heard he had some stem cell injections. His original knee injury was back in 2013 and he did have surgery. So I guess you can believe what you want to believe.
But If Conor had a broken foot, he wouldn't have fought either, nor would they clear him to fight with one.
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03-06-16 06:47 PM #159
He shot in cause he was out on his feet from Diaz rocking him many times, as well as being very tired from the extra weight he was carrying. Total panic shot by macgruber, anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.
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03-06-16 06:50 PM #160
interesting take, and I believe it. I wish every fighter I picked possessed the will power and killer instinct of the current Robbie Lawler. It's tough to see folks not displaying the mental strength to go out on their sword. Perhaps tapping out or coasting is a way of saving face instead of potentially being rendered unconscious in front of the crowd and those at home watching on ppv. A rare breed these days. Cormier has it. Mark Hunt has it. Ben Rothwell has it. Heck, Erik Silva has it. So does Matt Brown. Originally Posted by JoshKnows46
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03-07-16 10:49 AM #161
I just used to love boxing and hate where it has gone
Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe
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03-07-16 10:51 AM #162
thats what shocks me---how he didnt mimic the RDA fight...
Originally Posted by JoshKnows46
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03-07-16 02:49 PM #163
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</nav> </header> Conor McGregor isn’t a great UFC fighter and never has been
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By: Simon Samano | March 7, 2016 7:20 am
Conor McGregor is the UFC featherweight champion. That’s something that can’t be taken away from him.
Conor McGregor is not a great UFC fighter, though, nor has he ever been. That’s something that can’t be disputed. Not after what happened Saturday night. He was rushed to prominence thanks to his gift for gab and larger-than-life personality, but as the fight showed, he hasn’t become a complete fighter yet.
Listen to Nate Diaz, fresh off his impressive second-round submission win over McGregor at UFC 196, sitting with the Fox Sports 1 crew talking about his career journey while also preaching truth about McGregor’s meteoric rise.
“I’ve been fighting 12 years as a martial artist,” Diaz said. “Like, just knowing … seeing (the UFC) push this guy. That guy’s a good fighter and everything, but he’s where he’s at because of the push he’s getting, you know what I’m saying? I’ve put in a lot of work, and there ain’t no push. So I’m gonna take that (expletive) and make it mine, you know what I’m saying? I know I’m a better fighter than him. They weren’t gonna give me no full camp for this guy. They’re gonna try to do whatever they can to bring him back to the top. I knew I was better than him. …
“I’ve been in this UFC since I was 21 years old. I think that was my 25th fight, or 26th fight. There’s no experience like that. That guy, I think this might’ve been his sixth, seventh, eighth fight. But we’ll see where he’s at in 26 fights from now.”
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
Notice that Diaz called McGregor “a good fighter?” That’s as far as he could go, because that’s all McGregor has been in the UFC: good.
Not great. Not the next big thing worthy of all the hype. He’s a good fighter who basically talked his way to a title shot. From there, it was “right place at the right time” just like Diaz said.
Consider:
1. McGregor didn’t have a signature win in his first five UFC fights before being granted his original featherweight title shot against Jose Aldo. Maybe Dustin Poirier counted as a quality win? Maybe.
2. As McGregor kept winning, the hype train eventually reached full speed because of his trash talk and self-promotion. With his popularity on the rise, the UFC decided to give him a title shot instead of putting him against a top-five fighter first.
3. McGregor did defeat Chad Mendes – ranked ahead of McGregor – by TKO for the interim featherweight title after Aldo pulled out last July. That was hardly a signature win, though, when you consider Mendes took the fight on two weeks’ notice and how the fight unfolded. Mendes tagged McGregor a bunch and took him down at will in the first round, but it was clear he had no cardio. Mendes gassed out in the second before McGregor finished him. Makes you wonder about the outcome if Mendes had a full camp.
4. McGregor finally did beat Aldo last December at UFC 194 – but on a one-punch, 13-second knockout. That was the one-time-out-of-100 ending. Fair or not, the win felt like a case of a lucky punch or Aldo simply getting caught.
The point is that McGregor’s résumé prior to fighting Diaz wasn’t all that much to brag about. Now add Saturday night’s stunning – or maybe not so stunning – loss and what is McGregor?
Not a great fighter. And certainly not a fighter who had any business declaring himself a god or thinking about taking on Floyd Mayweather. That’s just nonsense.
To his credit, McGregor appeared chastened after the loss and mostly said all the right things. He expressed a desire to defend his 145-pound championship – against Frankie Edgar or in a rematch with Aldo – which is what his priority should be.
He needs to prove that he’s better than just good and that he’s a champion worth remembering. He rushed there this time, and until he gets there, he can quiet down a little.
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03-07-16 03:06 PM #164
Conor is an exceptional striker. THat weight jump was too much. He will be back! That article is full of fecal matter. We will see what will happen at featherweight.
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03-07-16 03:07 PM #165
I agree...he also need to start seriously working on his ground game...as of right now it's obsolete Originally Posted by Sato
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03-07-16 03:30 PM #166
Generally speaking, fade your ass Originally Posted by jjgold
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