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    Chicago court to hear 'natural-born' case to knock Ted Cruz off ballot


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    think I learned in 3rd grade what it takes to be president and these fukks still don't know???

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    cruz is a pathological liar sir, "liar, liar pants on fire" takes on new meaning when dealing with pathological liars.

    His dad was cuban/communist

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    think I learned in 3rd grade what it takes to be president and these fukks still don't know???
    So what's the answer? Is he a natural-born citizen?

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    if born in usa or has a parent from usa that hasn't given up his/her citizenship then yes

    just saved $4million of taxpayers money in Chicago

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    if born in usa or has a parent from usa that hasn't given up his/her citizenship then yes

    just saved $4million of taxpayers money in Chicago
    Why would the case cost the taxpayers $4 million? It's prosecuted by an individual and defended by Cruz.

    And your definition seems to be precisely in line with who is a CITIZEN. But don't the additional words "natural born" have to mean something. Or is it just meaningless superfluous verbiage? What is the difference between a "citizen" and a "natural born citizen"?

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    He and Rubio are both closeted polesmokers

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    Obama isn't a natural born citizen and he was allowed to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    Obama isn't a natural born citizen and he was allowed to run.
    Wrong... Unless Hawaii isn't a state

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    Obama isn't a natural born citizen and he was allowed to run.
    And is also a pathological liar with family that support radical muslim terrorists

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    Cruz was elected to the senate, Texas of all places, as having a Canadian citizenship. Just before he ran for Pres,
    he got a US citizenship. Running for Senate and Pres with a different citizenship are two different things.

    Cruz's mother was born here. Cruz was born in Canada. We'll see what the court says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion View Post
    cruz is a pathological liar sir, "liar, liar pants on fire" takes on new meaning when dealing with pathological liars.

    His dad was cuban/communist
    Yes, he lies alot, establishment guy who when called out on his lies, lies some more, easy to spot a bs'er, looks exactly like the rat he is, he and wife of same establishment, insiders not outsiders as they like to portray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Yes, he lies alot, establishment guy who when called out on his lies, lies some more, easy to spot a bs'er, looks exactly like the rat he is, he and wife of same establishment, insiders not outsiders as they like to portray.
    I'm very much on the fence with Cruz (it's either him or a Libertarian), can you explain through his voting record in the Senate how he is "establishment"? I understand he and his wife's background, just can't understand how no one in Washington likes him if he is so "establishment". Just looking for help, sure as hell don't know all the answers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonad View Post
    I'm very much on the fence with Cruz (it's either him or a Libertarian), can you explain through his voting record in the Senate how he is "establishment"? I understand he and his wife's background, just can't understand how no one in Washington likes him if he is so "establishment". Just looking for help, sure as hell don't know all the answers...
    Because he's a creepy douche. No one liked him before he got to Washington either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonad View Post
    I'm very much on the fence with Cruz (it's either him or a Libertarian), can you explain through his voting record in the Senate how he is "establishment"? I understand he and his wife's background, just can't understand how no one in Washington likes him if he is so "establishment". Just looking for help, sure as hell don't know all the answers...
    Both are former Bush policy advisors, he got big money from big banks for that Senate run, big money from oil companies and big banks for this presidential run, both worked on foreign trade policies, I just dont see how he cannot be.

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    Isn't Canada the 51st state? Has Canada ever opposed the US in anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Isn't Canada the 51st state? Has Canada ever opposed the US in anything?

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    who cares, Cruz is totally irrelevant. not sure why Trump wastes so much energy on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Isn't Canada the 51st state? Has Canada ever opposed the US in anything?
    They play weird football up there and they like hockey a little too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astro61200 View Post
    They play weird football up there and they like hockey a little too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actiondan View Post
    He and Rubio are both closeted polesmokers
    Lol

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    If Cruz was actually the Constitutional originalist he says he is, he would remove himself voluntarily as being ineligible. But as usual, he's a hypocrite. I believe he's eligible based on the evolution of what Natural Born has come to mean, but it didn't mean that in 1776 and was not the intent of the framers.

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