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    Check in if you are voting for Hillary

    I honestly haven't heard a cohesive argument for voting for her. She is favored in at least Iowa so people are voting for her and would love to get the reason why. No judgement - I honestly only see the attack stuff - what about her makes you want to vote for her. I haven't decided what I am doing but have seen arguments for the leading R's and Bernie - would like to hear the argument for Hillary? Is it so we get at least 4 more years of the current regime? Try and recoup the magic the economy had under Bill? What is it? being serious here

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    She is no longer favored in Iowa

    Complete Tossup

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    In fact, some polls have Bernie with a nice lead in Iowa now.

    Big swing in his favor

    +155 Bookmaker....go!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    She is no longer favored in Iowa

    Complete Tossup
    Alright - so its close now but still - means close to 50% of voting Dems in Iowa ARE voting for her - still want to understand argument for her

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Alright - so its close now but still - means close to 50% of voting Dems in Iowa ARE voting for her - still want to understand argument for her
    Pretender

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    Bernie is now leading in both Iowa and N.H........but it doesn't much matter as the Killery FBI investigating is looking worse and worse for her- she won't even be the candidate for the presidential election by the end. Expect Jerry Brown to eventually jump in, or maybe Elizabeth Warren. Bernie has NO chance to win in a general election, none what so ever. Independents generally decide a general election and they will run like the wind from socialist Bernie.

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    the most major advantage other than she is qualified is that
    If Hillary Clinton wins in 2016, that means:


    – Ted Cruz will not be President
    – Jeb Bush will not be President
    – Rand Paul will not be President
    – Chris Christie will not be President
    – Donald Trump will not be President
    – Sarah Palin hahaha will not be President
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    Yes

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    The only thing you'll hear is "because we hate trump"

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    She Will probably get the Whole Foods crowd vote. Any straight guy shouldn't vote for her. Anyone else punching their ticket for her should get an uppercut to the ovaries

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    I would vote for her besides the fact that she should probably be in prison, she is probably the biggest liar of anyone I have ever seen

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    I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Alright - so its close now but still - means close to 50% of voting Dems in Iowa ARE voting for her - still want to understand argument for her
    Its like having your in-laws around at christmas or thanks giving...

    You dont want to do it but at the last minute accept the fact that its happening and do whats needed to be done in order for them to have a hospitable stay...

    Same deal with Hilary...

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    Crickets chirping like crazy in here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    the most major advantage other than she is qualified is that
    If Hillary Clinton wins in 2016, that means:


    – Ted Cruz will not be President
    – Jeb Bush will not be President
    – Rand Paul will not be President
    – Chris Christie will not be President
    – Donald Trump will not be President
    – Sarah Palin hahaha will not be President
    You're obviously not using the same logic that got you all of those betpoints. If you think hitlery is any better than any of those people, you might as well just say you approve of a treasonous and traitorous individual to represent your country. Anyone in denial of what she has done needs a reality check, and should not be allowed to vote, not that our votes actually matter anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    I would vote for her besides the fact that she should probably be in prison, she is probably the biggest liar of anyone I have ever seen
    You would vote for her, even though you know that she should be in prison? Makes sense... You set your standards high there buddy

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    She cant even suck bills cokk right. He had to step out on her because she couldn't fulfill her sexual duties as a wife

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    Republican establishment would probably rather have her than Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    You're obviously not using the same logic that got you all of those betpoints. If you think hitlery is any better than any of those people, you might as well just say you approve of a treasonous and traitorous individual to represent your country. Anyone in denial of what she has done needs a reality check, and should not be allowed to vote, not that our votes actually matter anyway.
    And a guy like Trump isnt?

    Guy dodged the draft yet alot of your people are cool with nominating a proven Traitor to their own country...

    Says alot about the mentality of the people in general.

    All because someone represents change doesnt mean its change that's in the best interests of the people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Republican establishment would probably rather have her than Trump.
    And with good reason.

    Where does a stooge like Trump resonate with the beliefs of the GOP?

    He doesn't. He's simply a soundbyte that's getting too much air play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    And a guy like Trump isnt?

    Guy dodged the draft yet alot of your people are cool with nominating a proven Traitor to their own country...

    Says alot about the mentality of the people in general.

    All because someone represents change doesnt mean its change that's in the best interests of the people...
    Id dodge the draft also bro, soldiers dont even know the real reasons they go to war in the first place, they and we are lied to, there isnt a war we've been a part of that theyve given the real reasons for engagement. Doesnt matter who's in the White House the agenda will still move forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Id dodge the draft also bro, soldiers dont even know the real reasons they go to war in the first place, they and we are lied to, there isnt a war we've been a part of that theyve given the real reasons for engagement. Doesnt matter who's in the White House the agenda will still move forward.
    Yet 15 years ago i bet you wouldn't dream of making such a statement...

    Funny what a couple of failed wars can do to one's way of being...

    So if Trump dodged the draft because he didnt want to do it then what happens if he becomes Pres and has to start making foreign pokicy decisions where he faces adversity??

    You need someone strong not someone who gets scared and runs at the 1st sign of having to show adversical strength...

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    Whatever the Party
    Rep, Dem, Green, Social, Vote early and vote often.

    No real power for elected officials anyway....when they get in office they will
    meet the "Real Power" and be told what they have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
    Whatever the Party
    Rep, Dem, Green, Social, Vote early and vote often.

    No real power for elected officials anyway....when they get in office they will
    meet the "Real Power" and be told what they have to do.

    Kah Ching!!
    Well Hillary, at least, would already know that. Must be a rude awakening for some presidents and ALL new congressmen who think they are gonna get into office and actually wield any kind of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire
    Why not? If you've got the chance, fire or not, you've got to go for it.

    Carpe Diem...




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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Why not? If you've got the chance, fire or not, you've got to go for it.

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    OMG that is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Yet 15 years ago i bet you wouldn't dream of making such a statement...

    Funny what a couple of failed wars can do to one's way of being...

    So if Trump dodged the draft because he didnt want to do it then what happens if he becomes Pres and has to start making foreign pokicy decisions where he faces adversity??

    You need someone strong not someone who gets scared and runs at the 1st sign of having to show adversical strength...
    Yes I would bro, Ive never had any ounce of me that wanted to join the military even though many of my family have and still are in all four branches.

    Here's a story of mine right before going to college after high school. A friend and I were driving and my friend wanted to go to the Marine recruiting office that was near by, I knew where the office was because my brother used to be a recruiter at the same office. So we drive there and my friend was only curious though think he had no a real desire to enter the military, so we go in and he's talking to the guy and the guy talks to him and give him pamphlets, my friend asks alot of questions, but thats how he is, anyway the recruiter looks at me and says "What are your plans now that youve graduated?" I replied Im going to junior college and to engineering school afterwards, thats all I said which was the truth. The recruiter point blank looked at me and said "Your plan sounds fukked up" I'll never forget that statemen. I wanted to punch the guy in the face. I remember telling my brother that story shortly after and he kind of giggled and said yeah alot of those guys just dont care.
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    she will NOT be the candidate
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post



    she will NOT be the candidate

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    the most major advantage other than she is qualified is that
    If Hillary Clinton wins in 2016, that means:


    – Ted Cruz will not be President
    – Jeb Bush will not be President
    – Rand Paul will not be President
    – Chris Christie will not be President
    – Donald Trump will not be President
    – Sarah Palin hahaha will not be President
    Define qualified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    The only thing you'll hear is "because we hate trump"
    Tough to win an election solely on the basis of dislike for the other candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Yes I would bro, Ive never had any ounce of me that wanted to join the military even though many of my family have and still are in all four branches.

    Here's a story of mine right before going to college after high school. A friend and I were driving and my friend wanted to go to the Marine recruiting office that was near by, I knew where the office was because my brother used to be a recruiter at the same office. So we drive there and my friend was only curious though think he had no a real desire to enter the military, so we go in and he's talking to the guy and the guy talks to him and give him pamphlets, my friend asks alot of questions, but thats how he is, anyway the recruiter looks at me and says "What are your plans now that youve graduated?" I replied Im going to junior college and to engineering school afterwards, thats all I said which was the truth. The recruiter point blank looked at me and said "Your plan sounds fukked up" I'll never forget that statemen. I wanted to punch the guy in the face. I remember telling my brother that story shortly after and he kind of giggled and said yeah alot of those guys just dont care.
    Nice read Toler..

    To think there are plenty of guys out there willing to become puppet masters if only it means gaining the approval of those more indoctrinated than themselves.

    Was in the armed forces as a junior. Not my cup of tea thats for sure. If those old prikks wanna starrt a war then let them go fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    the most major advantage other than she is qualified is that
    If Hillary Clinton wins in 2016, that means:


    – Ted Cruz will not be President
    – Jeb Bush will not be President
    Rand Paul will not be President
    – Chris Christie will not be President
    – Donald Trump will not be President
    – Sarah Palin hahaha will not be President
    lol, you silly guy!


    stick to gambling. You're treading into territory you know very little about.

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