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    Dominick Cruz suck a dikk

    Tj is still a better man, you fight like a bitch

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    weird judging

    I thought Cruz won mainly because the takedowns

    Honestly I thought everything else was a wash

    It was the only piece of the fight I felt either fighter had an edge

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    Every takedown ended up with a quick scramble and back on feet with no damage

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    Sourhead fuk UFC
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    I agree sour. Pussy ass Cruz did not deserve that.
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    TJ won to me.....How can 2 different judges score it 49-46 on opposite sides?

    Judges suck in boxing and MMA.....fight til knockout or submission

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    it was to close to call ..fuk that . should go until only one man standing thats only way to have a winner ...ufc mma all this is BS

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    Fukk Cruz, he's a bitch

    Has he ever hurt anyone
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    I had cruz rounds 1-3, and Dillashaw round 4 and 5.
    The only two rounds that stood out for me were rounds 2 and 4, where round 2 would go to Cruz and round 4 goes to Dillashaw.
    This is why I was so surprised that one of the judges gave rounds 4 and 5 to Cruz.

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    Cruz reminds me of why I always hated the way machida fought, I enjoyed when shogun destroyed him
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    weird judging

    I thought Cruz won mainly because the takedowns

    Honestly I thought everything else was a wash

    It was the only piece of the fight I felt either fighter had an edge

    pretty weird it was 48/47 Cruz, 49-46 TJ, and then 49-46 Cruz.

    So apparently one judge had it 4-1 TJ and another had it 4-1 Cruz...Seems kinda ****** up. At least they all agreed 2nd rd was won by Cruz. Would of been even worse had the judge that had it 48/47 given the 2nd rd to TJ.

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    Rewatched the fight a few times now, tj won 1st round close, cruz won 2nd round clear, tj won 3rd round close, tj won 4th and 5th rounds clear. 1st and 3rd are the only debatable rounds the judge that scored it 49 46 tj was the only one that got it right. Weeks scoring the clear 4 and 5 rounds of tj for cruz, is what cost tj the match.

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    rigged

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    Bunch of cry babies on this thread. . Cruz won the fight as he was the champ before the injuries and is the champ now.. TJ didn't do enough to win, like KO him, out wrestle him or out point him in the striking department...

    Judging was fair...


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    Not sure if it entered the judges's minds but TJ swinging and missing 100 times over could have killed how they viewed him....not saying its a big deal to me but when you start talking %'s like some of these clowns do....never know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Bunch of cry babies on this thread. . Cruz won the fight as he was the champ before the injuries and is the champ now.. TJ didn't do enough to win, like KO him, out wrestle him or out point him in the striking department...

    Judging was fair...

    Don't know whether to laugh or cry at this

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirinquads View Post
    Don't know whether to laugh or cry at this
    I remember you were on Cruz in the event thread to start off.. Then you changed your mind to TJ.. I see that has now effected your ability to see and judge the fight objectively.. I told you to stick with Cruz Miri in one of my posts... You didn't listen..

    I got a box of kleenex if you need to borrow it bra..

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    I had no one in the fight. I thought a split decision was warranted. Didn't see a 49-46 on either side. That, to me, puts the whole decision into question.

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    I
    Loved it.

    Won 1600 off cruz.
    Last edited by iceman02; 01-18-16 at 03:57 PM.

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    Cruz never even really attempted to fight. Counter..yes..fight..no. MMA, "A" stands for Arts, and Cruz's art is shadow boxing. The decision was a joke and Cruz won on sentiment alone. After Condit/Lawler and now this, I'm starting to question the legitimacy of the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman02 View Post


    Loved it.
    If you watched the fight, as I'm sure you did, you had kissed that money goodbye when the bell sounded to end the fight. You'd pissed away $1300 until that fukked up decision and you're lying if you say otherwise.

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    Anyone who bets MMA knows they always have a chance if it goes to decision
    Quote Originally Posted by Robah View Post
    If you watched the fight, as I'm sure you did, you had kissed that money goodbye when the bell sounded to end the fight. You'd pissed away $1300 until that fukked up decision and you're lying if you say otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robah View Post
    If you watched the fight, as I'm sure you did, you had kissed that money goodbye when the bell sounded to end the fight. You'd pissed away $1300 until that fukked up decision and you're lying if you say otherwise.
    The fight was over after the first 3 rounds. Cruz was first 3 rounds. Not sure what fight you were watching. Go to sherdog forums (mma forum) look at the fight thread. Everyone had cruz winning first 3 rounds.

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    I had Cruz 3 rounds to 2. If TJ would have won 48-47, I wouldn't have been surprised. It was a close fight. Cruz just looked better through the first 3 rounds IMO.

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    I think most people had Cruz 3 rounds to 2, possible even 4-1 for Cruz, and at worst 2 rounds a piece, draw for the other round

    But how did ANYONE see it 4-1 for TJ?????

    That just blows my mind

    I obviously thought Cruz won, and the decision reflected that, but the inconsistency amongst judges is an atrocity. It shows just how subjective judging is and that's a big problem because they carry biases like everyone else. No logical reasons can be given to support 4 rounds to 1 for TJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    I think most people had Cruz 3 rounds to 2, possible even 4-1 for Cruz, and at worst 2 rounds a piece, draw for the other round

    But how did ANYONE see it 4-1 for TJ?????

    That just blows my mind

    I obviously thought Cruz won, and the decision reflected that, but the inconsistency amongst judges is an atrocity. It shows just how subjective judging is and that's a big problem because they carry biases like everyone else. No logical reasons can be given to support 4 rounds to 1 for TJ
    All I can figure with some of these strange judges decisions is that they do not get to watch and see every angle from a HD monitor like we do, so maybe sometimes they are just guessing on what is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    Every takedown ended up with a quick scramble and back on feet with no damage
    Defending against strikes and takedowns is part of the game, why shouldn't it be taken into account? Cruz landed a higher percentage of the shots he took. Tj spent most of the night swinging at air.


    Easy win for Cruz...was is it an ugly win? Yes it was, but win nonetheless.

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    6:28

    Look how busted up TJ's face is.

    I'm going to remember this everytime TJ says Cruz doesn't do anything in fights and only tries to win via decision.

    edit - Cruz walks in @ 20:26. Doesn't have a scratch on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post


    6:28

    Look how busted up TJ's face is.

    I'm going to remember this everytime TJ says Cruz doesn't do anything in fights and only tries to win via decision.

    edit - Cruz walks in @ 20:26. Doesn't have a scratch on him.

    that eye was a camp injury that Cruz just happened to exploit. Get real

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I remember you were on Cruz in the event thread to start off.. Then you changed your mind to TJ.. I see that has now effected your ability to see and judge the fight objectively.. I told you to stick with Cruz Miri in one of my posts... You didn't listen..

    I got a box of kleenex if you need to borrow it bra..
    Jibbby, I don't judge fights on who I bet on, like you. I judge them objectively, and objectively Cruz looked slicker and made TJ miss, but that doesn't change the fact that TJ did way way more damage, and hit Cruz WAY harder.

    And I was on Cruz decision of course, which was realistically his only way to win.

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    I had Cruz losing 0-5

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    This thread -


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    Decisions in MMA seem skewed most of the time because the judges do not have the same angles and coverage the viewer at home has. Also it's rigged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    This thread -




    Jibbby scoring fights.

    I don't think I have ever seen you score a fight for the guy you bet against. Not once.

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    ^^ Miri you're trolling me bud... I score fights objectively and make a point to do that regardless of my wager. I've been gifted decision wins where I thought my pick lost the fight on several occasions.. Read posts during the live events..

    I said this Cruz/TJ fight was close and I wouldn't call it a robbery if TJ had got the decision win.. I posted that up.. Just saw Cruz winning 3 rounds and getting take downs and TJ swinging at air...


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