1. 01-12-16 10:45 PM #36
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    The 36 year old fraud QB without a playoff win isn't getting one this week. Everyone hanging off Arizona's sack like they've won something.. they haven't accomplished anything and Palmer is a loser same with that arrogant prick Arians. Everyone left Green Bay for dead, but this is a battle tested team who has been in this situation before. Arizona tipped their hand a few weeks ago and McCarthy and Co. will adjust and you can bank on that. Palmer made it through the season without getting injured that is his big accomplishment time to pack it in.
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  2. 01-13-16 02:10 AM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by habitualwinning View Post
    Arizona is soft as penetrate. They got beat by the Rams in Arizona and Rams have no QB play. Rodgers one of the best QB's in the league. People are talking like Arizona is the lock of the month or something. They very well might win but no way in hell are they a lock and a play of the year like some people are saying. If you can lose to the Rams in your stadium you can lose to anybody.
    Good points I must admit.. Still this is the playoffs now and not a regular season game in week 4 against the Rams.. Cards have been one of the hottest teams down the stretch... Same can't be said for the Packers.. Packers did show up and beat the Skins or it's more like the Skins beat themselves.. That was some horrible football the skins played...

    Cards will be ready and rested..

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  3. 01-13-16 07:37 AM #38
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    Green Bay reminds me a little of the Giant teams from a few years ago. Disrespected and written off.
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  4. 01-13-16 07:40 AM #39
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    Boys your going to get Aaron Rodgers best performance on Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChop View Post
    Boys your going to get Aaron Rodgers best performance on Sunday.
    Will that be the season ending press conference? Game is Saturday night.
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  6. 01-13-16 02:27 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by meader99 View Post
    Will that be the season ending press conference? Game is Saturday night.

    Got my tickets today
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  7. 01-13-16 03:36 PM #42
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    I can see Arizona winning, but -7.5?

    The first game was still just 17-0 at half and then Starks 10 yard run turned into a fumble and game was over ... usually doesn't happen like that again.

    The question is, does Adams absence actually help Green Bay? Aaron can say what he wants but DaVonte was pretty much a liability all year.
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  8. 01-13-16 03:46 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    I can see Arizona winning, but -7.5?

    The first game was still just 17-0 at half and then Starks 10 yard run turned into a fumble and game was over ... usually doesn't happen like that again.

    The question is, does Adams absence actually help Green Bay? Aaron can say what he wants but DaVonte was pretty much a liability all year.

    DaVante's loss is actually very large. Not a killer, but will hurt some. (And yes, he was dreadful during regular season). Was sensational in Washington. This will result with using Cobb more in the backfield, and inside slot, line Abbrederis outside to stretch field. He'll be the key
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChop View Post
    DaVante's loss is actually very large. Not a killer, but will hurt some. (And yes, he was dreadful during regular season). Was sensational in Washington. This will result with using Cobb more in the backfield, and inside slot, line Abbrederis outside to stretch field. He'll be the key
    The key is always protection. They won't be able to protect Rodgers this week. You guys think Rodgers had some kind of reincarnation last week, fact is he still missed guys that were wide open on throws he would normally make. Something ain't right with him.
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  10. 01-13-16 04:33 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by JassieJames View Post
    Green Bay reminds me a little of the Giant teams from a few years ago. Disrespected and written off.
    Reminds me of the cardinals team that went into new Orleans a few years ago as 7 point dogs and got blown out of the building.
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  11. 01-13-16 05:10 PM #46
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    The line has settled in at Arizona -7. Don't expect much movement either way, if any. The fact that I brought up last week still holds true for this week. Green Bay is a much better away team than a home team. Counting last week's playoff game, the Pack is now 4-1 S/U in their past 5 away games. They have scored 30, 27, 30, 8, and 35 points in those 5 games. Arizona has just 3 losses, but two of them came at home. I have my 7 middle so I will just sit back and enjoy this game.
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  12. 01-13-16 05:46 PM #47
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    I think it'll be a pretty close game hard to blow out teams in the playoffs now
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  13. 01-13-16 09:08 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I think it'll be a pretty close game hard to blow out teams in the playoffs now
    Finally, JJ, a good insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The line has settled in at Arizona -7. Don't expect much movement either way, if any. The fact that I brought up last week still holds true for this week. Green Bay is a much better away team than a home team. Counting last week's playoff game, the Pack is now 4-1 S/U in their past 5 away games. They have scored 30, 27, 30, 8, and 35 points in those 5 games. Arizona has just 3 losses, but two of them came at home. I have my 7 middle so I will just sit back and enjoy this game.
    You might be right (I do agree this'll be a close one) but the teams they played at home were 3 divisional opponents and Dallas, who had a good D. The points came against Oakland, Washington, Detroit (27, 20 before hail mary), but at Vikings and at Carolina goes to your point (latter with really late late points)
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  15. 01-13-16 10:17 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGambler View Post
    People forget Honey Badger got injured that game. They will not play their left guard in left tackle this game.

    In Packers I trust Spread + ML

    Honey Badger didn't play in that game against the Packers. He tore his ACL the week before.
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  16. 01-14-16 12:21 AM #51
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    Ariz is fav to win it all...
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    Rodgers will have no time they lose 28 to 7
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  18. 01-14-16 12:38 AM #53
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    5Dimes has gb to win it all 14 to 1. Arizona 4.5 to 1...I'll bet arizona strong
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  19. 01-14-16 01:26 AM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    Ariz is fav to win it all...
    What's up with that ? I can see Sea/Car/NE/Den/GB/KC all having a legit chance of beating them. How are they the favs to win it all, with an unproven and old, injury-prone QB ?
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  20. 01-14-16 01:39 AM #55
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    arizona 5.5 to 1 bet365
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    To be fair, NE/Den/Car/Sea are all given almost the same odds.
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  22. 01-14-16 08:18 AM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    Rodgers will have no time they lose 28 to 7

    If the Packers lose by 21, I'll pay JJ's rent for a month
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  23. 01-14-16 10:38 AM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChop View Post
    If the Packers lose by 21, I'll pay JJ's rent for a month
    Just to clear, how much is that?
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    Can anyone explain why if KC is +220-250 this game, and I presume they'll be a +4 or a bit higher against Denver if they win, so around +210 again ... why the AFC championship odds are like 4-1?

    Who actually bets these futures?

    Doing the math for those that can't, fair price for KC to win the AFC should be no less than +900, and that's using the math on bad moneylines to begin with
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  25. 01-14-16 01:15 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Can anyone explain why if KC is +220-250 this game, and I presume they'll be a +4 or a bit higher against Denver if they win, so around +210 again ... why the AFC championship odds are like 4-1?

    Who actually bets these futures?

    Doing the math for those that can't, fair price for KC to win the AFC should be no less than +900, and that's using the math on bad moneylines to begin with
    Spread would be only +3 at Denver if KC beats New England. So than you have +220/250 @ New England, combined with +155/175 @ Denver. Combine those and there you have the +440 to win AFC right now. (+1050 to win SuperBowl). Odds are correct.
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  26. 01-14-16 01:19 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChop View Post
    Spread would be only +3 at Denver if KC beats New England. So than you have +220/250 @ New England, combined with +155/175 @ Denver. Combine those and there you have the +440 to win AFC right now. (+1050 to win SuperBowl). Odds are correct.
    What?!?!?!

    +220 and +155 = +716 odds
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  27. 01-14-16 01:36 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by moses millsap View Post
    What?!?!?!

    +220 and +155 = +716 odds
    Yup, I'm very disappointed in PorkChop's math ability. SBR has an easy parlay calculator to use:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/bett...ay-calculator/
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  28. 01-14-16 02:31 PM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Yup, I'm very disappointed in PorkChop's math ability. SBR has an easy parlay calculator to use:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/bett...ay-calculator/

    LOL. I know that boys, but that's not how the Future Odds are calculated
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    Quote Originally Posted by moses millsap View Post

    What?!?!?!

    +220 and +155 = +716 odds
    Yes, and that's bare bones minimum with bad ML to start, as I said. For anyone who wants to know how it is calculated (I could show you favorite lines later), it is a one-up of the money line (+220 is 3.2, +155 is 2.55) and a multiplier, 3.2 x 2.55 = 8.16, but that includes the wager, so you subtract one every time for 7.16 = +716

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    LOL. I know that boys, but that's not how the Future Odds are calculated

    No offense, but you don't know math and then you tell us that's not how they are calculated? Ummm, I'm pretty sure I know exactly how they are calculated, which is my first gripe, PorkChop. The answer is that they know bare bones it should be +716, and they even have an edge with that, but they deliberately put horrible numbers out to gouge you, not because it has anything to do with "calculations"
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    At the very worst your argument would have to be it's a separate pool ... but even so I think they are charging exotic racing wager type vigs in that pool (25+%), which proves my point yet again. Horrible bet nowhere near reality.
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  31. 01-14-16 04:15 PM #66
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    Wisconsin native here: zona covers. Davante loss is BIG. He was just getting confidence and turning it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meader99 View Post
    Honey Badger was hurt the game before. Never was on the field against the Packers. They also didn't play their left guard at left tackle against Arizona, that was Minnesota.
    Barclay who is essentially an average guard and sometimes backup for Bulaga at RT played LT against Arizona, he got exposed real bad at LT. Bulaga the RT was also injured in the Arizona game, 3rd quarter I think and didn't return. They're going to have their entire offensive line that started this season healthy for this game FWIW. Adams is out though, expect to see them moving Cobb around a lot like they did in Washington; whether it works against Zona is another story. I have my doubts, this Zona team is so loaded; think they're going all the way unless Palmer just caves under the pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevedore View Post
    Barclay who is essentially an average guard and sometimes backup for Bulaga at RT played LT against Arizona, he got exposed real bad at LT. Bulaga the RT was also injured in the Arizona game, 3rd quarter I think and didn't return. They're going to have their entire offensive line that started this season healthy for this game FWIW. Adams is out though, expect to see them moving Cobb around a lot like they did in Washington; whether it works against Zona is another story. I have my doubts, this Zona team is so loaded; think they're going all the way unless Palmer just caves under the pressure.
    I know Barclay is the back up, but he did start every game at RT all year last season when Bulaga was hurt. Frankly I think Bakhtiari stinks, he's a walking penalty. Not sure why they scrapped the plan of moving Bulaga to LT to play alongside Sitton making the left side a strength. Perhaps 69 is better at RT, but even if he isn't, Barclay is more suited to play RT. Barclay is a much better run blocker than pass blocker however. I do agree with you that Arizona will go to the bowl, and then win it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiscoBets View Post
    Wisconsin native here: zona covers. Davante loss is BIG. He was just getting confidence and turning it on.
    I know Rodgers says he steps it up in the playoffs, but the guy has clearly been a huge disappointment this year, almost a liability at WR. I'm not so sure it isn't a good thing.

    All in all, it's too many points, I'm leaning Arizona for the win but will say GB will absolutely compete and cover that line.
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    Wow
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