[Bluehorseshoe]

I agree with what the refs just called in the Lions game, but Mike Pereria (who use to be a ref and now works for Fox Sports) calls it completely the other way. It's a crap shoot every time how they're going to call it.

[d2bets]

He never had possession, let alone a football move. Complete joke. Refs can call whatever they want because there is no coherent rule.

[Bluehorseshoe]

He never had possession, let alone a football move. Complete joke. Refs can call whatever they want because there is no coherent rule.

Here's the problem.......I thought he did. To me, it looked like he had control and took two steps. It could go either way every time.

[d2bets]

Here's the problem.......I thought he did. To me, it looked like he had control and took two steps. It could go either way every time.

Not BEFORE he reached the endzone. When you do this in the endzone then you must complete the process. In no way did he become a runner before touching the plane. They blew it. Let's see if and how league tries to justify this after.

[dfish]

If a player is attempting to possess a live loose ball (forward pass or punt or fumble) while going to the ground, he must maintain control of this ball until the momentum that is causing him to fall is stopped. Until his momentum has stopped, he is not a ball carrier with possession.

[d2bets]

The only way it would be different is if he made the catch before reaching the endzone. IN that case, he becomes a runner and breaking the plan rule applies. But it is 100% clear that when his feet came down the ball was in the endzone. Therefore, it is a catch inside the endzone and he must finish the process. He didn't. The replays refs blew the call.

[TheMoneyShot]

Crazy plays lately. Coin flip calls. Shouldn't be that way... but it's happening.

[The Kraken]

The question really is, who is everyone betting on

That clearly decides if he had control or not