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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    Probably another one of those fly-by-night pencil operations.
    good idea jay


    im gonna call them tomorrow

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    I need a baseball card to sell while Iím waiting on btc jay! Lol

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    i just called pencil place 2x

    no answer

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    Jay, you gonna bid on this #1/1 Ohtani autographed card?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-TOPPS-...3/163881444658

    It's the only one in the world.

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    whens the last time you guys bought a card?


    i was gonna buy a pack yesterday just to get that fukkin experience again but forgot


    i remember, we never went to kmart much when i was a kid, but they had the best selection of packs to buy


    where do you even buy a normal pack now?

    does walmart sell them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    whens the last time you guys bought a card?


    i was gonna buy a pack yesterday just to get that fukkin experience again but forgot


    i remember, we never went to kmart much when i was a kid, but they had the best selection of packs to buy


    where do you even buy a normal pack now?

    does walmart sell them?
    Go online. Only brick&mortar places that have good selection are hobby shops but they're at a premium. https://quecan.com/ has best prices for me in Canada. Very fun. Goal is to get rookie cards of the best players from that year (obviously). Other than that, 1/1 or other lower numbered cards or game used/auto'd. Much like gambling tbh.

    Gary Vee very long on sports cards. Says the cycle is turning, everyone from the heyday of the 90s has grown up into 30 and 40 year olds with disposable income. Very fun hobby. I invested heavy into Claude Giroux in his rookie year because I thought he could win a cup and/or scoring title (think he finished 3rd one year). They still gained value because he turned into a good player that seems well liked by fans but they would have skyrocketed with a scoring title.

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    The Giannis card he's talking about buying hundreds for $150 and selling for $380 now sell for $550. Pretty sharp. Time to start looking for the Zion rookie cards.

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    great video

    lets go

    where do we buy these packs from????

    im in to buy some of these $6 packs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    Go online. Only brick&mortar places that have good selection are hobby shops but they're at a premium. https://quecan.com/ has best prices for me in Canada. Very fun. Goal is to get rookie cards of the best players from that year (obviously). Other than that, 1/1 or other lower numbered cards or game used/auto'd. Much like gambling tbh.

    Gary Vee very long on sports cards. Says the cycle is turning, everyone from the heyday of the 90s has grown up into 30 and 40 year olds with disposable income. Very fun hobby. I invested heavy into Claude Giroux in his rookie year because I thought he could win a cup and/or scoring title (think he finished 3rd one year). They still gained value because he turned into a good player that seems well liked by fans but they would have skyrocketed with a scoring title.
    i have none near me


    just stuff like walmart

    and im pissed i bought from there

    it was a plastic pak with some decent card on outside

    were all hand selected and put in this plastic thing

    fukkin pissed

    what a waste

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    anyone think sports pencils will make a move???

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    Don't buy them at the retail stores, Rudy.

    Those packs are more than likely all picked over by pack searchers.

    Go to a card shop, or buy online.

    Good luck with the pencils.


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    DiggityDag is right, don't do "retail" packs. You want "hobby" packs. Basically the industry knows there are two types of consumers, one who will just buy on impulse and not care about retail/resale value beyond the "get rich quick" ideal. The other is researching draft classes, rookies, up and comers and balancing that with price/quality/public opinion on certain sets. It's very much like sports betting, just trying to find an edge.

    https://www.quecan.com definitely ships to the States but might be a problem with duties so check out https://www.dacardworld.com/
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    thanks men

    i will check them out and post when i get some

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    just went to quecan then basketball

    never fukkin heard of these companies

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    If Rudy buys cards and posts pictures I will do the same.

    I haven't bought cards in years.

    I have a card store not too far from my house though.

    What cards are we going to get?

    Also, does this mean I need to buy a fukkin Beckett?

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    most of my best cards are basketball

    and i want a zion williamson like the guy said in video


    so id go for basketball if i get it

    never heard of panini though

    i thought it was a french sandwich????

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    or is it italian?

    greek?

    fukk if i know

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    1960s



    Panini started in Italy in the 1960s when two brothers working in the newspaper distribution business happened to acquire rights to some images of Italian soccer stars. They put the pictures on stickers and stuck them on their newspapers hoping to drive sales.

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    im talking about the fukkin bread bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    If Rudy buys cards and posts pictures I will do the same.

    I haven't bought cards in years.

    I have a card store not too far from my house though.

    What cards are we going to get?

    Also, does this mean I need to buy a fukkin Beckett?
    Forget the beckett, ebay the new beckett.

    Also, head to your shop tomorrow and tell them to put a 2019/2020 Panini Hobby box aside for you, tell him you're hunting for Zion. I think they release next month.

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    Food historians generally agree, panini, as we know them today, originated in the sandwich shops of Italy, perhaps as early as the 1960s

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Those are different sets, one is the special "Encased" version

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    panini comes out nov 10th

    you can preorder now but fukk that quecan doesnt have it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    Those are different sets, one is the special "Encased" version
    i have no clue what encased means

    i thought descriptions were similar/the same




    so a box is gonna run $200?

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    https://www.dacardworld.com/sports-c...sketball-cards



    which one do i need to buy?

    i assume the most expensive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    Forget the beckett, ebay the new beckett.

    Also, head to your shop tomorrow and tell them to put a 2019/2020 Panini Hobby box aside for you, tell him you're hunting for Zion. I think they release next month.
    How many packs in a hobby box?

    How much is that box going to cost me?

    How much is the Zion card worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    i have no clue what encased means

    i thought descriptions were similar/the same



    so a box is gonna run $200?
    It's just a marketing name for the box. Very similar but the more expensive will have more "hits" which are special cards. Good to know it comes out November 10th, I already emailed QueCan this morning to see if they would have pre-orders.

    Let's stay ahead of this rudy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    How many packs in a hobby box?

    How much is that box going to cost me?

    How much is the Zion card worth?
    The baseline Panini hobby box will be around $130 and contains "24 Packs Per Box, 8 Cards Per Pack" but it's different for every box/set so make sure to double check. Some now will say "Hobby Box" and be like $800 but then you read and it's 1 pack per box, 4 cards per pack so you just paid $200 a card. The thing with those sets is all the cards are rookies, numbered, auto'd, game used, etc. and only the big stars so quite easy to flip those cards on ebay for small profit.

    The goal is to always get the stars and that years rookies, the rarer the card the better. The 1/1's are the holy grail.

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    I am going to be pissed if Rudy pulls a $5k card and I pull commons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    I am going to be pissed if Rudy pulls a $5k card and I pull commons.
    It relies heavily on trust so you usually have to videotape it/live stream it but they sell Cases for wholesale price which is usually like 6-12 Hobby Boxes for like $1000. This is the best bang for buck and what the big timers do. In fact, some people say this is the ONLY way to buy as some cards are guaranteed per Case (just like there's some subsets guaranteed per Hobby Box). What store owners will do is open up a Case and keep opening the Hobby Boxes within until they get the "one card per Case" subset (holy grail type card) and then they sell the rest of the Hobby Boxes (that now don't have a chance of the grail card). It still could have other good cards, no doubt, but it will never have the blue chip best of the best. If they open the whole case and don't get the grail until the last Hobby Box then that's kind of like a loss for them but if they hit it early, it becomes really profitable for them. They like to gamble just like us but they kinda rig the deck, so to speak.

    Food for thought.
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    This box seems to offer good value:

    https://quecan.com/collections/baseb...ball-hobby-box

    You're hunting for Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

    Getting an Archival Autograph would get you about $80 but there's parallels: Copper (/50 or less), Gold (/25 or less) and Emerald (1/1) which go for $175, $250, and who knows for the Emerald because it hasn't been found yet, or if it has, they're not selling it.

    The big hits would be the "Museum Framed Autographs" which are still hugely popular but one of the "Case" hits where it's one of these per case. Frame types include Silver (/15), Gold (/10), Black (/5) and Wood (1/1). The Black Framed Auto is listed for ~$1250 so I imagine the Wood Frame would push close to $5k.
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    This fuckin Destroyer guys knows his cards.

    What do you know about pencil collections?

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    maybe ill buy a box of the 2019-2020 nba and not open the box

    sell it in about 10 years

    or bad idea?

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