[LT Profits]

If Bucs draft Mariota, than that's that. But if Bucs draft Winston, then...

Oregon QB Marcus Mariota trade rumors will "pick up intensity in the coming week" and "the Cleveland Browns are the front runners and working hardest in the hopes of acquiring the quarterback," reports TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.

"Early last week I was told the asking price from the Tennessee Titans was both of the Browns first round picks as well as their choice in the second round, to which Cleveland replied no," Pauline wrote. "Understandable Tennessee would have a high asking price at this point and even more understandable the Browns would say no. I’m told the Browns may be willing to part with both first round picks for Maroita but want to hold on to the second round choice to draft a much needed receiver." The Browns, owners of the Nos. 12 and 19 picks, employ QB coach Kevin O'Connell, who mentored Mariota before officially signing on in Cleveland. A handful of other teams led by Philadelphia figure to make offers to Tennessee before all is said and done.


Source: TFY Draft Insider

[LT Profits]

Just goes to show what Browns think of Manziel.

[NoRespect]

if clev dumps Manzial how much real money will they be out or wasted. cant see another team picking him up

[BigSpoon]

if clev dumps Manzial how much real money will they be out or wasted. cant see another team picking him up

Could see the Eagles and Chip Kelly taking a flyer on him. Can't be much worse than Tebow.

[LT Profits]

if clev dumps Manzial how much real money will they be out or wasted. cant see another team picking him up

Still would be the right move to take the financial hit, better to admit the mistake sooner rather than later.

[jjgold]

Guy is overrated

Bad move Cleve

[lakerboy]

Mariota will amount to nothing in nfl.

Fukking choir boy.

[mpaschal34]

Should be an interesting draft....can't wait for next week.

[Harry N. Lloyd]

I will be stunned if TBay drafts Winston with that first pick. He's of questionable character, dumb as a sock full of lugnuts, and appears to be out of shape. Do you really want this guy as your leader and face of the franchise? Mariota meanwhile seems to be a great kid, conditioned, and responsible. He's pretty much the prototype of the modern NFL QB (see Russell Wilson/Colin Kaepernik). Is Winston gonna be any different than EJ Manuel, or Geno Smith, or (God forbid) JaMarcuss Russell? If TB drafts this guy we'll have finally figured out why Lovie is so stoic----he doesn't have a brain.

[Vegas39]

I will be stunned if TBay drafts Winston with that first pick. He's of questionable character, dumb as a sock full of lugnuts, and appears to be out of shape. Do you really want this guy as your leader and face of the franchise? Mariota meanwhile seems to be a great kid, conditioned, and responsible. He's pretty much the prototype of the modern NFL QB (see Russell Wilson/Colin Kaepernik). Is Winston gonna be any different than EJ Manuel, or Geno Smith, or (God forbid) JaMarcuss Russell? If TB drafts this guy we'll have finally figured out why Lovie is so stoic----he doesn't have a brain.

Was shocked Winston scored good on the wonderlic test they give. He has the brains just chooses not to use them

[jjgold]

Its such a gamble no matter who you draft

n such thing as cannot misses in nfl

[Big Bear]

Just goes to show what Browns think of Manziel.

I guess that explains why the Browns are the worst sports organization in the world.

Marriota will be a bust too.

A rookie QB aint going to do shit for your team. At some point you have to make a decision and committ to it.

QB is just 1 position and the Browns have a ton of holes.

Why not use that pick on a linemen to give Manziel some extra time to make his reads or give him some better targets at WR????

or better yet add to the Browns strength which is defense.

[Killer_Demo]

Carr,Bortles & Sh!twater were the better QB's in 2014 draft

[SP216]

I just wanted my Browns to pick up Vick so we could blast 'Who Let The Dogs Out' everytime he took the field.

[jjgold]

Is Vick on any team right now?

[qwertvt]

I think Conner Shaw should start for the Browns. He certainly has more potential than Manziel.

[qwertvt]

Its such a gamble no matter who you draft

n such thing as cannot misses in nfl

J.J. Take a look at the collusion thread in the poker section. You may be interested.

Take care my friend.

[existential]

if clev dumps Manzial how much real money will they be out or wasted. cant see another team picking him up

$6.7M was his guaranteed money, including $4.3M signing bonus, so that's not really the issue.

[TheMoneyShot]

You have to pick up Mariota. Guy seems like he has decent talent. Nothing to choose from QB wise in the NFL.

[Vinnie Paz]

He will end up in phila
Mark my words

[Vegas39]

He will end up in phila
Mark my words

Is this a raptors no brainer

[SP216]

Mariotta ends up in Phily and the Browns get Tebow. 2 qb set with Tebow/Manziel, play up the Heaven and Hell angle, we go 2-14 than pass on Cardale because he doesnt fit our new OC's scheme. In all seriousness though I think Chip is going to hoodwink us somehow.

[Vegas39]

Mariotta ends up in Phily and the Browns get Tebow. 2 qb set with Tebow/Manziel, play up the Heaven and Hell angle, we go 2-14 than pass on Cardale because he doesnt fit our new OC's scheme. In all seriousness though I think Chip is going to hoodwink us somehow.

Could be but then whats Philly do with Bradford?

[SP216]

Im a Browns fan, cant really comment on what I think a legit NFL team would do.

[edawg]

Browns are going to do a three team deal with Titans and Eagles or Titans and Chargers mark my words.

[Vegas39]

Im a Browns fan, cant really comment on what I think a legit NFL team would do.

fair enough

[Vegas39]

Browns are going to do a three team deal with Titans and Eagles or Titans and Chargers mark my words.

seen rumors to that effect but wonder if it still happens if Tampa take Mariota

[edawg]

I think Conner Shaw should start for the Browns. He certainly has more potential than Manziel.

Hope your joking Connor Shaw can't throw more than 10 yards down field. Guey will be fighting for a third string spot for his entire life in football.

[jjgold]

Tampa Bay will draft Winston that's a given

[Vegas39]

Tampa Bay will draft Winston that's a given

Why do you think its a given?

[jjgold]

Everyone saying it on ESPN

Those guys are pretty good and have inside info

[slacker00]

Browns need a QB, McCown is taking them nowhere. McZiel either.

[LT Profits]

Why do you think its a given?

It seems everyone is on board with Winston except for the most important person, co-owner Darcie Glazer Kassewitz. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-with-winston/

However, it seems everyone has now reached a "comfort level".


The Bucs have "come to a comfort level with who they'll take 1st overall," according to Albert Breer.

Breer had a similar report a few months ago. The phrasing of the tweet is important, as Breer notes is is "about making sure it's right" in the next ten days. All signs point to Jameis Winston being the selection unless the ownership steps in - which is still very possible. Apr 20 - 9:54 AM

Source: Albert Breer on Twitter

[Vegas39]

It seems everyone is on board with Winston except for the most important person, co-owner Darcie Glazer Kassewitz. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-with-winston/

However, it seems everyone has now reached a "comfort level".


The Bucs have "come to a comfort level with who they'll take 1st overall," according to Albert Breer.

Breer had a similar report a few months ago. The phrasing of the tweet is important, as Breer notes is is "about making sure it's right" in the next ten days. All signs point to Jameis Winston being the selection unless the ownership steps in - which is still very possible. Apr 20 - 9:54 AM

Source: Albert Breer on Twitter

Was main reason I asked. As heard about her reservations about Winston.

Hadn't heard anything since , thanks

[lakerboy]

tampa bay once won a superbowl with gruden.


i hope they enjoyed that.


franchises like these never learn nothing.

winston and mariotta are both not nfl star type qb's