[StackinGreen]

Mariners are the only staff in the AL better than the White Sox.

I'll take the OVER 81.5 ALL DAY, their team only got better, and pretty much everywhere. Their bullpen was absolutely horrific last year and it is worlds better.

Again, 87+ wins, I say

[Big Bear]

not sure why you think the White Sox starting rotation is so good.

The Tigers starting rotation is deeper IMO.

yeah the White Sox have a better bullpen than the Tigers but i also think the White Sox line-up is a bit overrated.

All the Nationals fans said good riddance when they parted ways with LaRoche but somehow White Sox fans think they are getting an MVP type player.

there is a reason the Nationals kicked him to the curb. Sure he has a little power but he is not a premier middle of the order type hitter

[stevenash]

not sure why you think the White Sox starting rotation is so good.

The Tigers starting rotation is deeper IMO.

yeah the White Sox have a better bullpen than the Tigers but i also think the White Sox line-up is a bit overrated.

All the Nationals fans said good riddance when they parted ways with LaRoche but somehow White Sox fans think they are getting an MVP type player.

there is a reason the Nationals kicked him to the curb. Sure he has a little power but he is not a premier middle of the order type hitter

Sale and Samarzjia > Price and Verlander
Quintana and Danks > Sanchez and Simon

Nationals did not kick LaRoche to the curb, he was a free agent, he got a good deal with Chicago, plus the Nationals needed the room at 1B to move Ryan Zimmerman to, because Zimmerman is an atrocious, horrible third baseman they coould not keep him at 3B anymore, because his throws go to places for reasons unknown, two hops to first some times, sometimes to the fourth row in the box seats.

LaRoche hitting behind Abreu, who hits behind Melke will drive in 85 or more runs.
A-Ram at SS is one of the better hitting SS's in the game too.

[Big Bear]

LOL at Quintanna and Danks being better than Anibal Sanchez and Simon.

btw Shane Greene is better than Simon.

so really Greene and Sanchez are better than Quintanna and Danks.

you will see Nash... you dont have long to wait.

[stevenash]

Simon is the #5 starter.
Alfredo Simon is an 8 and 10 pitcher in the AL.
Alfredo Simon gave up over a homer a game last year, that number will be 1.25 this year.

[EDDIE MONEY LINE]

Mets under. Easiest money I've probably ever seen

[BeanTownClown88]

Mets just need to stay healthy and get guys that can hit...They have a nice young pitching staff, who knows maybe they can surprise

[stevenash]

Mets under. Easiest money I've probably ever seen

Iffy.
If Harvey pitches ot his old form, if DeGrom remains lights out, if Wright hits like he is capable of, if Cuddyer stays healthy, if Duda hits 25+ bombs, if Murphy remains his .285 self, Mets will steal a WC.

If DeGrom comes down to earth, if Harvey isn't healthy, if their BP sucks moose rooster again, under is a lock.

I'm not walking away from the Mets o/u prop.
I'm running away from it.

White Sox over for me.
Pound that shit.

[broadway6]

other than angels under... i think i like the padres under 84.5

[Wrigley]

Twins Under 72.5

[stevenash]

Twins Under 72.5

Twins are going to be a special kind of shitty this year.

but...
In 3 years they will be a force, the talent on the farm is deep, and really good.

[Big Bear]

other than angels under... i think i like the padres under 84.5

Angels under looks good. LMAO on the Angels thinking they can count on Garrett Richards to be their #1 starter after coming off Tommy John Surgery.

[broadway6]

Angels under looks good. LMAO on the Angels thinking they can count on Garrett Richards to be their #1 starter after coming off Tommy John Surgery.

I can't imagine him being an ace this year.

[stevenash]

Angels under looks good. LMAO on the Angels thinking they can count on Garrett Richards to be their #1 starter after coming off Tommy John Surgery.

Ummm, wrong.
Dream Weaver is the ace of that staff, they are counting on him being the #2 guy.

[STAX]

interesting how they are capping the AL Central. They have it 1a. CLE 1b. DET 3. CHIW 4. KC 5. MIN

Top 4 teams between 80 and 84 wins predicted... I am a Tribe fan, and I love our chances this year. Cleveland had the worst defense in the ML last year, we got nothing (and I mean NOTHING) from about our top 6 or 7 players going into the season, yet we still were in the hunt at the end and won 85 games. You want a lock? Detroit under 83.5 or 84.5, you don't just lose a HOF manager, and 2 top 10 pitchers and still be dominant in a division this tough. White Sox are interesting to me, I like their team, KC wont get that dominance from their bullpen another year straight. Bullpen production fluctuates from year to year and its really unpredictable... only thing you can count on is return to the mean.

Teams I like this year: ANgels, Dodgers, Nats, Cards, Yankees, Indians, Cubs

Teams I hate: Tigers, Twins, A's, Braves, DBacks, Rockies, Reds, Pirates

[Big Bear]

Ummm, wrong.
Dream Weaver is the ace of that staff, they are counting on him being the #2 guy.

If they count on Jared Weaver and CJ Wilson contributing this season they are in for a LONG SEASON

Both of the pitchers you might as well stick a fork in them b.c they are done.

[mr. leisure]

Cleveland over
a`s under
braves under

[Fidel_CashFlow]

crazy

not a single soul has mentioned a team im lookin @ very closely right now

[stevenash]

If they count on Jared Weaver and CJ Wilson contributing this season they are in for a LONG SEASON

Both of the pitchers you might as well stick a fork in them b.c they are done.

How exactly is Jared Weaver washed up?
You can't really be this stupid.
Maybe you are.

Weaver led the major leagues last season in games started.
34
Started every game.

18 game winner.
18-9 3.59 / 1.20
3:1 K to BB ratio-sound
over 7 K's oer 9-sound.

Do those sound like numbers of a washed up pitcher.

Bear you better step up your game, people are pm'ing me you don't know what you are talking about.

[stevenash]

crazy

not a single soul has mentioned a team im lookin @ very closely right now

Who?
I have the Steamer, and PECOTA numbers in my database open right now, I can help.

[FlyinAir]

Locked in my only two for the season

Pads under 86 -115
Cubs under 82.5 -110

[Cross]

I'll take yanks under, always overrated.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Who?
I have the Steamer, and PECOTA numbers in my database open right now, I can help.

does not matter as much now. Was the rangers sitting at 77 wins, its not adjusted accordingly @ 79 and 79.5

but one I really am liking at the moment is Royals over 79 wins

[Big Bear]

Weaver aint #1 starter material anymore

he aint scaring anybody with that 87mph fastball

[Stokes36]

Angels under looks good. LMAO on the Angels thinking they can count on Garrett Richards to be their #1 starter after coming off Tommy John Surgery.

Umm...he tore his patellar tendon in his left knee. lol. Not even the same body part.

[Big Bear]

Umm...he tore his patellar tendon in his left knee. lol. Not even the same body part.

oh well then that makes sense. My mistake... i saw him on a Angels depth chart as the #1 starter and i thought to my self no fukkin way they are going to rely on a guy coming off injury to be their go to guy.

i would not trust any of the pitchers coming back off tommy john to automatically go right back to where they left off.

Jose Fernandez, Matt Harvey etc...

I like Garrett Richards but i just dont think he is ready to take 200 inning load.

for the Angels to be successful this year they need 15 wins each from CJ Wilson and Jared Weaver and that is not happening.

[stevenash]

Weaver is the same pitcher he was 6 months ago, he won 18.
Why isn't he winning 15 this season all of a sudden?

[jt315]

Shoemaker looked pretty impressive last year. Why can't he win 15? Solid no. 3

[Andy117]

Mets under. Easiest money I've probably ever seen

The Mets won 79 last year without Harvey. They have tons of pitching depth. Their bullpen was pretty good for most of the 2nd half. It'd be hard for them to get less out of LF than they did last year.
I think you're gonna lost that money.

[StackinGreen]

Sale injury, haha, but not how Big Bear saw it.

Will that total move back to 81.5?

[Big Bear]

Locked in my only two for the season

Pads under 86 -115
Cubs under 82.5 -110

Cubs may win 96 games pal

[Big Bear]

Sale injury, haha, but not how Big Bear saw it.

Will that total move back to 81.5?

he is skinny as a toothpick he needs to eat better and get in the gym

[Chi_archie]

he is skinny as a toothpick he needs to eat better and get in the gym

and not jump off his truck

[stevenash]

Cubs may win 96 games pal

Really?

You know Soler and Baez and Bryant are a strikeout waiting to happen.
Their strikout out rate is eye popping high.
Even Rizzo.

I will start every strikeout staters in daily leagues against the Cubs this year and make a fortune.

Kershaw or Cueto or any a healty Fernandez, or a healthy Harvey or even DeGrom could have seven combined strikeouts alone off of Baez and Bryant and Soler.

Cubs ain't winning 96.

Just go to fangraphs, click the links under the players name.
Cubs have no chance, less than zero chance of winning 96

Player	PA	BB%	K%	ISO	BABIP
Kris Bryant	557	9.30%	32.90%	0.244	0.344
Anthony Rizzo	651	10.80%	20.00%	0.224	0.299
Starlin Castro	674	5.30%	16.50%	0.143	0.325
Arismendy Alcantara	645	6.20%	26.50%	0.184	0.316
Miguel Montero	529	11.00%	21.20%	0.127	0.289
Javier Baez	650	5.80%	32.60%	0.214	0.302
Dexter Fowler	526	13.90%	22.20%	0.137	0.338
Addison Russell	407	6.60%	24.80%	0.161	0.302
Welington Castillo	417	7.70%	24.20%	0.147	0.304
Albert Almora	576	3.00%	17.00%	0.118	0.301
Tommy La Stella	459	8.70%	10.90%	0.098	0.293
Rafael Lopez	394	8.60%	21.60%	0.093	0.292
Jorge Soler	345	7.80%	22.30%	0.208	0.294
Mike Olt	423	9.70%	32.60%	0.179	0.276
Kyle Schwarber	591	8.30%	25.40%	0.193	0.283
Matt Szczur	553	6.10%	17.90%	0.08	0.301
Christian Villanueva	543	5.30%	26.20%	0.142	0.297
Chris Denorfia	395	7.30%	17.00%	0.11	0.302

[Big Bear]

Fangraphs is just someones opinion Nasher.

Cubs really have no weaknesses

1.Fowler
2. Coughlan
3. Castro
4. Rizzo

that top 4 is a proven commodity.

you have a catcher in the #8 spot who will 20-25 HR's

5-7

Soler, Bryant and Baez will be some of the most exciting players to watch this year

think Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig - that is the type of potential these players have.