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    Sorry war was not a meaningful stat at that time.

    Gehrig was better than Williams.

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    Mayweather

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    Willie mays was better than Williams as well.

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    I would have loved to see what Bo Jackson would have accomplished if not for that freak injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    I'll tell you how Gehrig did:

    He had a career WAR of 116.3

    Ted Williams had a career WAR of 130.4
    link below says Williams had a 123.1 career WAR...but still head of Gehrig. Either way, Ruth is #1 on the list and should be number 1 on this list.


    http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...t_career.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Sorry war was not a meaningful stat at that time.

    What the..................?

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    Mickey Mantle would've been the best player if he a) stayed healthy and b) didn't booze so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Mickey Mantle would've been the best player if he a) stayed healthy and b) didn't booze so much.
    I would have been the greatest of all time if I was 6" taller and could hit the curve ball better, to be serious you might be correct, most people don't realize how quick he was, was one of the quickest ever to go first to third. The only man closest to Mantle in the game now is Trout, and Trout is not Mantle

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I would have been the greatest of all time if I was 6" taller and could hit the curve ball better, to be serious you might be correct, most people don't realize how quick he was, was one of the quickest ever to go first to third. The only man closest to Mantle in the game now is Trout, and Trout is not Mantle
    He tore his knee up very early on and was never quite the same. And yet, he still put up monster numbers.

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    Baseball- Ruth
    Basketball- Jordan
    Hockey- Gretzky
    Football- Rice (Can't say Montana because S.F. won with Steve Young)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    JIM BROWN?? Has to be in discussion, no?
    Just remembered an interview Jim Brown gave in which the reporter asks his best 40 time, implying he was kind of slow.

    Browns answer " Can`t remember my best time, but I NEVER lost a race"

    As far as guys picking Wilt, the only way I would consider taking him to start my all-time team would be if his entire mental and emotional being was morphed into a Russell, MJ, Bird or Magic make-up.

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    ^^
    Wilt was the first really big center, he had a huge advantage

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^^
    Wilt was the first really big center, he had a huge advantage
    I would take Russell over Wilt. Russell was the ultimate winner. Wilt was about statistics.

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    Yep.
    Wilt had the stats, Russell has the rings.

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    when you talk about baseball and Babe Ruth

    its important to remember he wasn't just a hitter

    his pitching stats also factor in

    Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
    1914 19 BOS AL 2 1 .667 3.91 4 3 0 1 0 0 23.0 21 12 10 1 7 3 0 0 0 96 71 3.65 1.217 8.2 0.4 2.7 1.2 0.43
    1915 20 BOS AL 18 8 .692 2.44 32 28 3 16 1 0 217.2 166 80 59 3 85 112 6 1 9 874 114 2.81 1.153 6.9 0.1 3.5 4.6 1.32
    1916 21 BOS AL 23 12 .657 1.75 44 40 3 23 9 1 323.2 230 83 63 0 118 170 8 1 3 1272 158 2.43 1.075 6.4 0.0 3.3 4.7 1.44
    1917 22 BOS AL 24 13 .649 2.01 41 38 3 35 6 2 326.1 244 93 73 2 108 128 11 0 5 1277 128 2.65 1.079 6.7 0.1 3.0 3.5 1.19
    1918 23 BOS AL 13 7 .650 2.22 20 19 0 18 1 0 166.1 125 51 41 1 49 40 2 1 3 660 122 2.75 1.046 6.8 0.1 2.7 2.2 0.82
    1919 24 BOS AL 9 5 .643 2.97 17 15 2 12 0 1 133.1 148 59 44 2 58 30 2 1 5 570 102 3.58 1.545 10.0 0.1 3.9 2.0 0.52
    1920 25 NYY AL 1 0 1.000 4.50 1 1 0 0 0 0 4.0 3 4 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 17 94 4.25 1.250 6.8 0.0 4.5 0.0 0.00
    1921 26 NYY AL 2 0 1.000 9.00 2 1 1 0 0 0 9.0 14 10 9 1 9 2 0 0 0 49 49 7.10 2.556 14.0 1.0 9.0 2.0 0.22
    1930 35 NYY AL 1 0 1.000 3.00 1 1 0 1 0 0 9.0 11 3 3 0 2 3 0 0 0 39 150 3.50 1.444 11.0 0.0 2.0 3.0 1.50
    1933 38 NYY AL 1 0 1.000 5.00 1 1 0 1 0 0 9.0 12 5 5 0 3 0 0 0 0 42 81 3.80 1.667 12.0 0.0 3.0 0.0 0.00 AS
    10 Yrs 94 46 .671 2.28 163 147 12 107 17 4 1221.1 974 400 309 10 441 488 29 4 25 4896 122 2.81 1.159 7.2 0.1 3.2 3.6 1.11

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    ^
    has thrown more career shutouts than Randy Johnson.
    Greatest baseball player of all time.

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