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    Effort to ban online gambling revived in Congress

    LAS VEGAS (AP) - A Utah congressman is reviving an effort to ban online gambling throughout the United States.
    Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz (CHAY'-fits) Utah reintroduced his Restoration of America's Wire Act bill on Wednesday. The measure would reverse the Justice Department's 2011 decision allowing online gambling with the exception of sports betting. It's identical to one he introduced during the last session.
    The director of the research firm GamblingCompliance Chris Krafcik doesn't expect the bill to pass.
    He says two powerful forces have lined up on opposite sides of the issue, will likely will lead to a stalemate. Las Vegas Sands CEO and billionaire political donor Sheldon Adelson supports the ban. Caesars Entertainment, MGM Resorts and lawmakers advocating state's rights oppose the effort.
    Online gambling's currently legal in only Nevada, New Jersey and Delaware.

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    I wish Sheldon Adelson would just die already. That old wrinkly penetrate is the only one pushing this agenda.
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    what is the point in allowing any online gambling if you are not going to allow sports gambling?

    who the hell wants to play slots or roulette online?

    Whats this guy in Utahs problem anyway?

    he is making the republican party look bad.

    What he should be trying to do is figure out a way to make it legal and tax it.
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    I imagine this guy and the ones supporting him are getting gigantic envelopes from the Las Vegas casinos

    Not surprised

    Money is one hell of a motivator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holtgetsback View Post
    I imagine this guy and the ones supporting him are getting gigantic envelopes from the Las Vegas casinos

    Not surprised

    Money is one hell of a motivator
    that must be the case.

    Otherwise you would think there would be more important issues to be concerned about.

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    Why does this stuff never die??

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    This is what really gets my goat. This guy's campaign commercials were all about
    preserving the Constitution, individual freedoms, smaller govermnent, yadda, yadda, yadda.
    Here he is going out of his way to limit individual's ability to freely choose how he or she wants
    to spend money.

    With all of the issues that need to be addressed, they choose this.

    It's bad here in Utah. We got guys running for local, low on the totem pole government positions, and
    they campaign like they are running for President.

    You're only free if you do what they tell you.


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    Look who it is a republican...lol

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    Its why passing sports betting will be so hard in states
    incredible red tapes, courts, judges

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    What a \*\*\*\*\*\* fuckk chayfetz

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    It will never happen

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    I wish we would have an effort to ban congress

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    The two main arguments to ban online gambling seem to be that 1) kids will swipe their parents c-redit c-ards and instead of buying candy and x-box games online they will want to play roulette and poker, and 2) turns out humans have a gambling gene that automatically diverts gambling funds to terrorist activities, it's pretty much scientifically proven.

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    I can go deposit on gambling sites like Draftkings, TD Ameritrade and even a penetrating iOS app called big fish casino, but tough luck if I want to play a skill game like poker or betting sports online. I get seriously tilted when I see those ads on tv with the fine print at the bottom about being a risk and the possibility of losing all your money.

    FU Adelson and all your cronies
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    As bad as Utah is, the hardest state to get down action online just might be Washington State.
    Those poor souls. Not just gambling too. I tried to send my brother some pipe tobacco and Washington
    is one of the few states that online retailers can't ship to.

    It's not a moral issue in Washington, because they have Indian casinos and card rooms. Such greed and
    corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Look who it is a republican...lol
    Really? you know nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourtwist View Post
    Really? you know nothing.
    Chaffetz is not a republican?

    Bill Frist and Jon Kyl are not repubicans?

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    republicans and democrats are douchebags.

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    OnlinePokerReport.com posted a worthwhile article on the Bill (here)

    The article's opinion on the Bill's chances:

    Handicapping RAWA’s Congressional chances

    The chances of RAWA passing as written are near-zero. Here is just a small sampling of the hurdles:

    • The impending election year makes it incredibly unlikely that a bill dealing with gambling, the internet and states’ rights will come to the floor of Congress.
    • Sheldon Adelson’s public support for RAWA makes for incredibly poor optics.
    • Powerful conservative groups are allied against RAWA, which they consider a clear affront to the rights of states.
    • State lottery directors will by and large oppose the bill, as will most commercial casinos outside of Adelson and LVS.
    • There’s no obvious path for the bill through the House or the Senate, let alone for getting past President Obama’s desk.

    But even if you reject all of the above, general Congressional inertia and the lack of broad political interest in the issue of online gambling basically guarantee that this bill never makes it to a vote, let along into law.

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    Why do they waste lawmaker/tax payer money to try and get these bills passed?

    Congress is a bunch of scumbags

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    sheldon adelson is responsible for all this.

    hence, boycott all sands properties in vegas.

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    boycott the venetian and the palazzo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkHunt View Post
    It will never happen
    that's what they said about uigea.

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    I know some people need to make everything partisan, but this is not a partisan republicans v. democrats issue. You can find many pols on both sides of the aisle supporting and opposing this issue.

    No one fought harder to expand sports gambling than Christie, who is a republican. The federal government, currently run by a democrat, fought him every step of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    I know some people need to make everything partisan, but this is not a partisan republicans v. democrats issue. You can find many pols on both sides of the aisle supporting and opposing this issue.

    No one fought harder to expand sports gambling than Christie, who is a republican. The federal government, currently run by a democrat, fought him every step of the way.
    fukk christie, that fat fukk, once he starts accepting donations from adelson, he'll be part of adelson's puppets. it already started just watch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    No one fought harder to expand sports gambling than Christie, who is a republican. The federal government, currently run by a democrat, fought him every step of the way.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/ny...=top-news&_r=0

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    Voting against gambling is a win win for politicians

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    Are there any other countries that are against online gambling but so openly in favor of non internet gambling like the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    that's what they said about uigea.


    Nobody forget how they attached uigea last minute to the politically impossible to vote against port security act

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    Voting against gambling is a win win for politicians

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    online gambling being legalized is not good for us

    it means offshore sportsbooks will either die down a bit or not allow US players

    having to deal with juice and then being taxed on the small withdrawals we do make means us losing bettors will be even bigger losers

    unless only the sportsbook is taxed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spedizzo View Post
    online gambling being legalized is not good for us

    it means offshore sportsbooks will either die down a bit or not allow US players

    having to deal with juice and then being taxed on the small withdrawals we do make means us losing bettors will be even bigger losers

    unless only the sportsbook is taxed
    LOL pay your taxes kids. Even if its a couple "small" withdrawals the IRS penalties 10 years later will make them "big"

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    Any type of national regulation would be horrific for a bettor

    Heavily taxed and very generic lines and bet offerings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    fukk christie, that fat fukk, once he starts accepting donations from adelson, he'll be part of adelson's puppets. it already started just watch...
    Beyond gambling, I honestly don't give a **** about anything he does since he isn't governor of my state and he certainly won't be president.

    However, in that one NJ-related issue I care about, Christie is a sports gambler's best friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spedizzo View Post
    online gambling being legalized is not good for us

    it means offshore sportsbooks will either die down a bit or not allow US players

    having to deal with juice and then being taxed on the small withdrawals we do make means us losing bettors will be even bigger losers

    unless only the sportsbook is taxed
    Why would we be taxed on our withdrawls? Are you taxed when you cash in a winning ticket in Vegas?

    Losers won't owe any taxes. Technically, winners should pay taxes but I doubt the casinos will be making out W-2's for us or anything like that.

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