[stevenash]

Kentucky even money to win it all?

I'm seriously thinking of fading that after thinking it through.

OK, as of right now they are clearly the best college team in the nation.
They are a mortal lock to reach the final 64 in the tournament.
They'll have to win six games in the March tournament to win it all.

For argument sake, let's give them the overall #1 seed and there is absolutely no doubt they'll destroy whoever they play first in the tourney, somebody like a Coastal Carolina or a Hofstra that wins a play in game.

Wildcats would play the winner of the 8/9 game in the second game of the first weekend.
They should advance, but who is to say some team like a Seton Hall or a Kansas State that advances out of the 8/9 game can't shoot lights out against their defense for 40 minutes.

OK, give the Wildcats the win against the winner of the 8/9 game, they still have to sweep the second weekend, to get to the final four.

The way I see it is the bet is, you can have the Wildcats at -110 to win six straight March games in the tournament, and I can have everybody else in the nation for -120.

How is this not a solid future bet?

[cburland10]

too early. you made way too many assumptions in this post

[The Giant]

Where can you get the field at -120?

[pavyracer]

Tieing tour money for 3 months is no good. You can double your bankroll much faster in other ways.

[stevenash]

Where can you get the field at -120?

Wednesday 5D had field at -120

[stevenash]

NCAA Men's Basketball National Champion 2014/15 Sat 1/17 12:00PM National Champion - Lucas Oil Stadium - Indianapolis, IN - April 6, 2015
Kentucky	-110
Wisconsin	+900
Duke	+1000
Virginia	+1000
Arizona	+1600
Gonzaga	+1600
Louisville	+2200
North Carolina	+2500
Kansas	+3000
Villanova	+4000
Texas	+4000
Utah	+4000
Iowa State	+5000
West Virginia	+5000
Wichita State	+5500
Oklahoma	+6000
Notre Dame	+7000
Florida	+8000
Michigan State	+8000
Syracuse	+8000
VCU	+8000
Maryland	+8000
Ohio State	+9000
SMU	+10000
Connecticut	+10000
San Diego State	+20000
Indiana	+20000
Arkansas	+25000
St. John's	+25000
NC State	+25000
Iowa	+30000
Baylor	+30000
Georgetown	+30000
Oklahoma State	+30000
Stanford	+30000
South Carolina	+30000
Illinois	+30000
Butler	+30000
Michigan	+50000
UCLA	+50000
Nebraska	+50000
Oregon	+50000
Cincinnati	+50000
Dayton	+50000
Miami Florida	+50000
Seton Hall	+50000
Alabama	+50000
Colorado State	+50000
George Washington	+50000
Northern Iowa	+50000
Arizona State	+100000
Harvard	+100000
Colorado	+100000
Georgia	+100000
LSU	+100000
Marquette	+100000
Minnesota	+100000
Mississippi	+100000
Providence	+100000
Xavier	+100000
BYU	+100000
Louisiana Tech	+100000
Purdue	+100000
New Mexico	+100000
Murray State	+100000
Texas A&M	+100000
Washington	+100000
UNLV	+170000
Florida State	+200000
Kansas State	+200000
Pittsburgh	+200000
Tennessee	+200000
UTEP	+200000
Penn State	+200000
Vanderbilt	+200000
California	+200000
Memphis	+500000
Missouri	+500000
St. Louis	+500000
Massachusetts	+500000
Georgia Tech	+500000
LaSalle	+500000
USC	+500000
Clemson	+500000
Creighton	+500000
DePaul	+500000
New Mexico State	+500000
St. Joseph's	+500000
Northwestern	+500000
St. Bonaventure	+500000
Richmond	+500000
Texas Tech	+500000
Auburn	+500000
Fresno State	+500000
Illinois State	+500000
Boston College	+500000
Wake Forest	+500000
Virginia Tech	+500000

[stevenash]

Where can you get the field at -120?

OK
Jumped to 130 since I last saw it earlier this week
Bet #28002

NCAA Basketball - National ChampionSat 1/17 28001 Kentucky wins NCAA Champ -110 12:00PM 28002 Field wins NCAA Championship -130 Sat 1/17 28003 Wisconsin wins NCAA Champ +900 12:00PM 28004 Field wins NCAA Championship -1850 Sat 1/17 28005 Virginia wins NCAA Champ +1000 12:00PM 28006 Field wins NCAA Championship -2000 Sat 1/17 28007 Duke wins NCAA Champ +1100 12:00PM 28008 Field wins NCAA Championship -2300 Sat 1/17 28009 Arizona wins NCAA Champ +1600 12:00PM 28010 Field wins NCAA Championship -4800 Sat 1/17 28011 Gonzaga wins NCAA Champ +1600 12:00PM 28012 Field wins NCAA Championship -4800 Sat 1/17 28013 Louisville wins NCAA Champ +2200 12:00PM 28014 Field wins NCAA Championship -6600

[stevenash]

too early. you made way too many assumptions in this post

Yes, but they are logical assumptions.

[Bigbill365]

michigan state at 8,000 is defintly worth a shot izzo will have his team peaking at the right times like usual

[Smoke]

I like florida at +8000 great value

[stevenash]

Wisky overrated at +900.
Good team, not a great team.

[brooks85]

Tieing tour money for 3 months is no good. You can double your bankroll much faster in other ways.

if you have the bankroll and using it responsibly that doesn't matter.

There may be no value in this play because of win or go home but UK will win it all.

[The Giant]

I'm amazed the field was at -120.

That seems insane to me. I would take the field, in this day and age, over John Wooden's UCLA teams.

[unde0087]

numerous other teams have talented players and i would argue have much better coaching. calipari is a master recruiter but year after year you look at his teams from start to finish and you don't see much improvement. They play in a terrible conference so that isn't a plus for them to be challenged the rest of the year where as solid teams from the ACC and Big 12 will be playing tournament caliber teams every night. Plus many of these other teams have hall of fame coaches. calipari has dominated recruiting for the past several years yet has only 1 title.

[brooks85]

numerous other teams have talented players and i would argue have much better coaching. calipari is a master recruiter but year after year you look at his teams from start to finish and you don't see much improvement. They play in a terrible conference so that isn't a plus for them to be challenged the rest of the year where as solid teams from the ACC and Big 12 will be playing tournament caliber teams every night. Plus many of these other teams have hall of fame coaches. calipari has dominated recruiting for the past several years yet has only 1 title.

was your tv broken last year?

[TheMoneyShot]

That's pretty sad that the 2nd best team is +900

That tells you something.

[mikemca]

That's pretty sad that the 2nd best team is +900

That tells you something.

Arguably the best team is 10-1.

[Chili_Powder]

Utah 40:1, and WVa and iowa St @ 50:1 are good value

[DOM_Toretto]

Take the field. If my book offered the field at anything up to -150 I would still put about 4-8 units on it. Easy money.

Guys I know UK plays great defense but they go on scoring slumps. They don't have great guard play, which is ESSENTIAL for a national championship. Think about all the previous winners and find one who didn't have a top 5 guard duo/trio in the country.

A team like Notre Dame, West Va, Seton Hall, Utah, Kansas, Duke, Virginia, Wisconsin could certainly get hot a shoot lights out and put away Kentucky in the final four or elite eight.

[dumdum214]

I bet Kentucky on my book to win it all a few months ago at +450. Now they are -200. They don't off a bet for the field vs Kentucky or I would hedge out to freeroll

[Big Bear]

Kentucky even money to win it all?

I'm seriously thinking of fading that after thinking it through.

OK, as of right now they are clearly the best college team in the nation.
They are a mortal lock to reach the final 64 in the tournament.
They'll have to win six games in the March tournament to win it all.

For argument sake, let's give them the overall #1 seed and there is absolutely no doubt they'll destroy whoever they play first in the tourney, somebody like a Coastal Carolina or a Hofstra that wins a play in game.

Wildcats would play the winner of the 8/9 game in the second game of the first weekend.
They should advance, but who is to say some team like a Seton Hall or a Kansas State that advances out of the 8/9 game can't shoot lights out against their defense for 40 minutes.

OK, give the Wildcats the win against the winner of the 8/9 game, they still have to sweep the second weekend, to get to the final four.

The way I see it is the bet is, you can have the Wildcats at -110 to win six straight March games in the tournament, and I can have everybody else in the nation for -120.

How is this not a solid future bet?

if u fade it then you hate money.

only 2 teams have a chance to stop them.

Arizona Wildcats
Wisconsin Badgers

[2daBank]

if u fade it then you hate money.

only 2 teams have a chance to stop them.

Arizona Wildcats
Wisconsin Badgers

fukkin clueless. zona they wont make sweet 16 unless they get a seriously favorable draw. like face teams incapable of scoring..

[Big Bear]

ok banker

take Gophers , Buckeyes, Cardinals, Blues today

[stevenash]

if u fade it then you hate money.

only 2 teams have a chance to stop them.

Arizona Wildcats
Wisconsin Badgers

Bear?
It's mid-January, anything can happen between now and March, one of those Ky studs could get suspended for something stupid, or 8 good teams can come together late February and become great teams (remember UConn last year, they were floundering, than out of nowhere, Napier and Boatwright, and the German started to hit all 3's....

So, for even money, you would bet Kentucky to win it all, and spot the other guy 63 other teams?

Bear?
You are better than that.

[INVEGA MAN]

I just sold my house to pound the field -120. are you kidding me

[d2bets]

Wow can anyone remember the last time a team was basically a pk em at this stage (or even right before the tourney) to win it all? No doubt Kentucky is the best team, but there is so much that can go wrong. You still gotta string 6 wins against some good teams. Let's ignore the first game, but even if you assume DD spreads the rest of the way maybe you have at most:
-1200
-1000
-800
-600
-400
That's -105. But would you really assume spreads that high once you reach the final 3 games?
And at this point, what if key guys get hurt?
Field seems like the better play even though KY is clearly the best team.

[Lazy-Man]

Betting the field is a lock. Its called March Madness for a reason. Anything can happen. Injuries can occur now before then as well

[TheMoneyShot]

I'm just trying to figure out... why are books doing this?

Are we the suckers that don't believe in Kentucky winning it all?? And we believe -110 is still too much for this team to win it all?

Or

Is the gambling world already hammering Kentucky to win it all... and it's already pushed this line higher?

Seems like the smartest wager would be taking FIELD... but this Kentucky team can be so dominant. Scary.

[k13]

Yes...good bet...

Hope for injuries suspensions , etc.
Plus Kentucky chokes a lot. ..
They have no special players..

[PaperTrail07]

totally maybe not lock...but a SOLID fuckkn bet

Betting the field is a lock. Its called March Madness for a reason. Anything can happen. Injuries can occur now before then as well

[STAX]

Miami, FL 500 to 1... $2 to win $1000

[DOM_Toretto]

Miami, FL 500 to 1... $2 to win $1000

That's a sweet bet. Two bucks so who cares but potentially winning a G, nice. Angel Rodriguez and Sheldon McClellan make a top-10 guard combo, which I always preach is essential to winning 'ships.

[tractortrailer]

That would be a horrible wager my friend. As somebody who is already up over $25k this year and has been a profitable bettor for the last 4 years (after a tumultuous learning process) let me tell you that futures especially as of today is a HORRIBLE wager. In fact its the worse wager you could make today.

Please do not place this bet. Even when you do place a wager like this you still may find yourself hedging during the tournament and then making additional wagers chasing this bet that you should have never made in the first place.

[DOM-Ganador]

I'm amazed the field was at -120.

That seems insane to me. I would take the field, in this day and age, over John Wooden's UCLA teams.

Never saw it, don`t have 5D`s, but taking the field in a 6 round tournament with "kids" playing is a no brainer at those odds.

One of the biggest bets I ever made was taking the field @ The British vs. Tiger/Rory the year Rory was way ahead after 2 rounds. It was -150, me and my buddy maxed it out.

[stevenash]

The Kentucky Wildcats' dominating start to the college basketball season has one Nevada sportsbook in a precarious position.

In July, a customer at the William Hill sportsbook requested odds on Kentucky going undefeated. The book obliged and gave coach John Calipari's team a 50-to-1 chance to win every game, including the NCAA tournament. Five months later, the top-ranked Wildcats are 13-0 and William Hill is staring at a six-figure liability that keeps growing.

"It's pretty good six figures, too," William Hill director of trading Nick Bogdanovich said of the liability on the popular prop bet. "They keep betting it."

Kentucky defeated No. 4 Louisville 58-50 on the road Saturday, the Cardinals being the biggest challenge remaining on the Wildcats' regular-season schedule. They're expected to be solid favorites in their remaining 18 games and are outright favorites to win the national championship at multiple Vegas sportsbooks. But Kentucky is still an underdog to complete the first undefeated season since the 1975-76 Indiana Hoosiers.
Entering the week, William Hill has Kentucky at plus-450 to run the table. You can bet "No," Kentucky doesn't finish undefeated at minus-650, meaning you'd have to wager $650 to win $100. Before the Louisville game, 95 percent of wagers were on "Yes."

William Hill took 39 bets on the Wildcats going undefeated at 50-1 odds. The biggest bet at that price was $500, which would produce a $25,000 payday if Kentucky runs the table. Bogdanovich said he's taken several four-figure bets on the prop as the odds have shrunk.

At the Westgate SuperBook, Kentucky is a 4-5 favorite to win the national championship. It's rare to have a team listed as an outright favorite this early in the season.

"It's been a long time since that's happened," SuperBook oddsmaker Ed Salmons said.

At the MGM sportsbook, Nevada's largest book, Kentucky has attracted nearly double the number of bets to win the national championship than any other team.

"Arizona, Duke and Wisconsin are next, but Kentucky has more than double than most of those teams," Jay Rood, VP of MGM Race and Sports, said.

Salmons and Bogdanovich both have Duke second in their power ratings and project the Blue Devils would be "4-6-point" underdogs against Kentucky.

Kentucky opens its 18-game Southeastern Conference schedule Jan. 6 at home against Mississippi. Calipari is sticking to the moment, and not what people are saying his program can accomplish over the long haul.
"They picked the Germans in World War II also. Look, the good news is we have another break," Calipari told reporters after beating Louisville. "We have [time] to get my team right. We have to put in a different zone because we're going to face some different things. I want to put in a different rotating press. I want to do some different things offensively to try, because we have time."