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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    I'm pretty sure Calvin Johnson had 3 feet down when he let the ball go. Based on the rule book, it's not a catch. I agree with you that it should be a catch, but following the rule book, it's not.
    Calvin Johnson did not make a football move. He was in the endzone. He leaped and came down on both feet simultaneously and then fell forward. No further steps, no stretchout. This was 3 separate feet down plus a stretch covering 5 yards. This is 100% different.

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    At the end of the day, dez needed to hold on to the ball. He knew it and he didn't. The steps he took were as he was falling to the ground. This has been called this way since the rule was put in place. I agree that I hate the rule book definition, but by the rule book, it's clearly not a catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    At the end of the day, dez needed to hold on to the ball. He knew it and he didn't. The steps he took were as he was falling to the ground. This has been called this way since the rule was put in place. I agree that I hate the rule book definition, but by the rule book, it's clearly not a catch.
    That's absurd. Steps are steps. Falling is falling. You don't fall over a span of 15 feet. Just admit it: they blew this call. Tried to be clever and show they knew a rule, but didn't apply it correctly here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    No he doesn't take 3 sold steps. He is airborne when he catches the ball. He lands first on his left foot. Sorry but that's not considered a step. He then goes to his right foot so we can call that one step. Then he goes down without his feet touching the ground again until after rolling over and having lost possession.

    NFL rules say in such a situation you have to complete the process for it to be ruled a completion. Here are a few angles showing my take on what happened is true.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dal...y-reversed.ece
    Thats a catch. His left foot hit the ground 2x. Right foot once before he hit the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The game is over and you cannot change results all of you please MoveOn
    Jj.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    That's absurd. Steps are steps. Falling is falling. You don't fall over a span of 15 feet. Just admit it: they blew this call. Tried to be clever and show they knew a rule, but didn't apply it correctly here.
    You're arguing the rule. In that respect I completely agree. But the rule as it is was applied correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    You're arguing the rule. In that respect I completely agree. But the rule as it is was applied correctly.
    This times 1,000.

    And just about every national analyst is taking the same position. Maybe the rule needs to be changed, maybe it doesn't. I honestly don't care because I know it's impossible to create a rule which will prevent situations like this. But the rule as currently written mandates that that is not a catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    You're arguing the rule. In that respect I completely agree. But the rule as it is was applied correctly.
    This.

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    Wasn't a damn catch. You have to maintain control of the ball all the way thru hitting the ground on a catch and he didn't. The ball hit the ground, popped up outta his hands, and he re caught it. That's like a quarterback throwing a ball in the dirt and the receiver catching it on a bounce and saying it was a catch. Arm and elbow means jack shit when you're falling on a catch. Quit crying like a lil bitch and accept defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grind House View Post
    Wasn't a damn catch. You have to maintain control of the ball all the way thru hitting the ground on a catch and he didn't. The ball hit the ground, popped up outta his hands, and he re caught it. That's like a quarterback throwing a ball in the dirt and the receiver catching it on a bounce and saying it was a catch. Arm and elbow means jack shit when you're falling on a catch. Quit crying like a lil bitch and accept defeat.
    The ball did NOT hit the ground !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustedu View Post
    The ball did NOT hit the ground !!!
    What a dumb f\*\*k. Stop smoking crack immediately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustedu View Post
    The ball did NOT hit the ground !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustedu View Post
    The ball did NOT hit the ground !!!
    Clearly we watched two different games then.

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    If Bayless is saying it is a catch, it clearly is not.

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    Skip bayless is a retard. That's like bozo the clown saying it was a catch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    Skip bayless is a retard. That's like bozo the clown saying it was a catch
    Skip Bayless is a guy who deliberately says stupid things so people will get all riled up and talk about the latest stupid thing he said.

    He works in a profession where it is far better to have people talking about how stupid you are than simply ignoring you - because then at least you're being talked about and people know who you are and they tune in to hear what stupid thing you'll say next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    You're arguing the rule. In that respect I completely agree. But the rule as it is was applied correctly.
    No, I don't agree. I'm not talking about whether or not the rule is good. It was just not applied correctly here because he made a football move. Namely, right foot then left foot then right foot then stretchout. That's a football move. 3 of them really. And they covered more than 5 yards. This is not the situation where the receiver dove and then didn't complete the catch. He caught it in the air, came down, took 3 steps and stretched out toward the goal line. I guess the problem is that "football move" doesn't actually seem to be defined anywhere. To me, the catch followed by 3 steps and a stretch is a football move, but I guess since it's not defined one could say that it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    What a dumb f\*\*k. Stop smoking crack immediately
    Hey dick head, he was down by contact at the 1 yard line . Look at the replay dummy.

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    Have you guys actually watched nfl games over the past few years? This comes up quite often. I really can't explain it to you if you don't understand the rule. Watch espn all this week and you might understand.

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    What I see is almost every "expert" and person with nfl experience is saying no catch while fans are saying catch

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    moment call was overturned

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    Cant wait to hear that whiney bitch Skip Bayless tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpooh View Post
    What I see is almost every "expert" and person with nfl experience is saying no catch while fans are saying catch
    More like all of the referee apologists.

    For the umpteenth time, the refs applied the correct rule and it is a judgement call. All I'm saying is that I completely disagree with the judgment that he did not make a football move. The problem is that football move is not actually defined anywhere so it is ambiguous and the ref can make it mean whatever he wants it to mean in any situation. However, in my considered judgment, 3 separate steps plus a stretch out all covering over 5 yards is a "football move." I will accept that reasonable minds can differ only because the football move term is not actually defined anywhere. That is the real problem. I guess it's kind of like pornography. You're supposed to know a football move when you see it. I see a football move, but maybe you don't.

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    Feel bad for the over bettors, but not the Cowboys. They shouldn't have been playing this week anyway.

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    This was a good one ...

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    Lol at cowboy fans saying it was a catch, can't believe u would think otherwise

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    I was wondering if the Bert Emanuel rule would have applied on the catch where the ball can touch the ground if you controlled the ball when it is caught?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdonae101 View Post
    Lol at cowboy fans saying it was a catch, can't believe u would think otherwise
    It was a catch. And I'm not a Cowboys fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post


    moment call was overturned
    Lololololololololololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpooh View Post
    What I see is almost every "expert" and person with nfl experience is saying no catch while fans are saying catch
    Ditto

    nuff said

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    It was a catch. And I'm not a Cowboys fan.
    Most people r agreeing it was incomplete. To each his own

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    I still think Green Bay wins as they had 4:00 left in the game. Just wish we could have seen it playout that way though.

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    You dorks complaining about the Detroit Call...Stafford threw a laser at the back of a DB that was blanketing his receiver. Ridiculous PI calls got to end sometime...But you nerds wouldn't let it go and it had a carry over effect to this game with a call Dean Blandino actually did have control over...

    Geeks strike again. I've always hated it when losers ruin things for others.

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