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    People are forgetting the ineligible guy cannot go down field and run fake routes. Just because someone is unprepared for something, doesn't make it cheap. It's smart. Taking your agreement further, should all trick plays be banned? After all a trick play is deceiving the defense, which seems to be the problem for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    Why is it not cheap to announce a tackle eligible. It's the same thing, but I don't hear anyone saying that's cheating.
    that's usually in the redzone, actually usually inside the 10 yard line. and teams usually don't snap it as fast as possible in those situations. trust me, I was in Indy vs Pats this year when LT Anthony Castonzo caught a TD pass!

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    Waaahhh. Harbaraugh is a whiny bitch. You lost. Move on and enjoy your winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    Like I said 3 times now: you're making sh*t up.
    Well since you asked, OK.

    NFL rules, Section 3, Article 1 - Reporting Change of Position:

    "An offensive player wearing the number of an ineligible pass receiver (50–79 and 90–99) is permitted to line up in
    the position of an eligible pass receiver (1–49 and 80–89), and an offensive player wearing the number of an eligible pass
    receiver is permitted to line up in the position of an ineligible pass receiver, provided that he immediately reports the
    change in his eligibility status to the Referee, who will inform the defensive team.


    He must participate in such eligible or ineligible position as long as he is continuously in the game, but prior to each play he
    must again report his status to the Referee, who will inform the defensive team. The game clock shall not be stopped, and
    the ball shall not be put in play until the Referee takes his normal position."

    Please show me the part where it says this is considered a substitution and the defense has to be given time to adjust. All is says it the ref has to be given time to get in position. It doesn't say a single word about giving the defense time to substitute.
    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    I don't see how it's different than announcing a player is eligible. As long as they announced the player number as ineligible, it's all on the defense to figure it out. To suggest that a defense should be given extra time to line up their defense is dumb. That's like saying the play should be held up if the defense gets out of their huddle too slow to line up.
    The key word is "immediately", i.e. when player enters the game, as what happens on tackle eligible plays. Not when player is leaving the huddle, just prior to the snap. The onus was on the referee to wait before taking his normal position. Like it or not, that's what upset Harbaugh.

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    According to the wording, he did just that. Informed the referee immediately before lining up. Seen it done the exact same way hundreds of times on tackle eligible. Nobody bitches about that because it's done all the time. It's really the same thing as evidenced by them being linked in the rule book.

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    Patriots haters just complaining.

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    I hate the PATS. Broncos would have played better if the Patriots would have lost. Pats vs Seahaks in superbowl

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    Hear aught is such a cry baby.

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    Bellichick will do whatever possible to win. He will exploit any rule, any weakness, anything he can get away with. Harbaugh should have called a timeout and prepared the D for what was happening. It's not against the rules so what's complaining gonna do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckycharms2012 View Post
    Bellichick will do whatever possible to win. He will exploit any rule, any weakness, anything he can get away with. Harbaugh should have called a timeout and prepared the D for what was happening. It's not against the rules so what's complaining gonna do?

    Can't imagine a team owner giving a coach $10 million and saying go out there and win..but don't try and do all that you can do to win, take a loss if you don't feel comfortable with the rules that the NFL has put in place for all the teams to abide by

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    way to go belichick! and im in for the pts

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    Trying to decide which brother sucks the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    Trying to decide which brother sucks the most.
    Must've been an annoying household with those 2 shits crying about stuff all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordsandtequila View Post
    The key word is "immediately", i.e. when player enters the game, as what happens on tackle eligible plays. Not when player is leaving the huddle, just prior to the snap. The onus was on the referee to wait before taking his normal position. Like it or not, that's what upset Harbaugh.
    Spot on. League changed the rule today. That was completely predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizay View Post
    Spot on. League changed the rule today. That was completely predictable.
    Yes, here are all the rule changes that passed on Wednesday:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/3/2...avens-patriots

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    Maybe he can teach it to the wolverines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    Maybe he can teach it to the wolverines
    I don't think hugh jackman is fit for that play

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    Looked at this play even deeper. Surprised teams don't do things like this more often. Although teams now will look for these types of formations

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    It wasn't belichick or mcdaniels. Ernie Adams is the genius of the pats organization who feeds Belichick information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordsandtequila View Post
    Read. Didn't say it was against the rules. Wanna bet there's a change next year?

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    LT, ill wire you a $100 bucks to stop posting for 2 days, no shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hankodetanko View Post
    It wasn't belichick or mcdaniels. Ernie Adams is the genius of the pats organization who feeds Belichick information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiDBaZkiT View Post
    LT, ill wire you a $100 bucks to stop posting for 2 days, no shit.
    LT is a must read id go through withdrawls if he left for 2 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Yes, here are all the rule changes that passed on Wednesday:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/3/2...avens-patriots
    Yes the whiny little crybaby bitch Harbaugh got his way. What a bleeping pu$$y. I would be humiliated to be a Ravens fan right now.

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    Patriots have been doing shady shit since belicheat arrived

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robber View Post
    Patriots have been doing shady shit since belicheat arrived
    Every team looks for advantages. Very few plays are surprises anymore. You can know what play is coming but you still have to stop it.

    and Adams is some kind of football illuminati. Nobody knows much about him yet he exists and is involved in just about every aspect of Pats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    Every team looks for advantages. Very few plays are surprises anymore. You can know what play is coming but you still have to stop it.

    and Adams is some kind of football illuminati. Nobody knows much about him yet he exists and is involved in just about every aspect of Pats.
    Adams is the designated head of the department of cheating

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