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    kmarinouofm
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    Oklahoma now -6/ 6.5 and climbing What gives?

    Line is running away . It will probably reach the 7 and started on the 3.

    Thats just nuts.

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    Clemson hasn't covered a single game that Cole Stoudt had played in I don't think.

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    Have you seen Cole Stoudt play? There's a reason why Ga. Tech's defense, which can't stop anyone, only gave up 6 points to Clemson.

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    Don't see Clemson scoring too much either, played Sooners@-4

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    I took to sooners this team needs a big win

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    Sooners defense aint good from what I remember,

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    Isn't Clemson defense #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I took to sooners this team needs a big win
    seriously doubt ou considers beating clem in some shit pre new year bowl a "big win"...you seem more up for it than i expect them to be..

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    I can see why OU went up, Clemson cant really run which means Stoudt gonna have to win the game for them, probably wont happen, while OU will run and run and eventually it should take its toll on Clemson late if not before. OU also came up big last year against Bama in bowl and have that recent great experience behind them with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    I can see why OU went up, Clemson cant really run which means Stoudt gonna have to win the game for them, probably wont happen, while OU will run and run and eventually it should take its toll on Clemson late if not before. OU also came up big last year against Bama in bowl and have that recent great experience behind them with that.
    If you think you can get a read on which OU team shows up tonight, you are a smarter man -- and a braver gambler -- than I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    seriously doubt ou considers beating clem in some shit pre new year bowl a "big win"...you seem more up for it than i expect them to be..
    I'm sure Clemson is ecstatic to be playing in this particular bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    If you think you can get a read on which OU team shows up tonight, you are a smarter man -- and a braver gambler -- than I.
    Hard to say, Clemson is good against the run and Knight is back so they will be throwing more, Clem giving up less than 3 on the ground and good in the secondary, should be a good game.

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    I've seen Clemson play a few times this. They have very good athletic talent and lots of speed. Haven't seen Oaklahoma but Preseason they were anointing them in Bowl Championship game and Stoops thought he had one of the best talented team he's ever had. not sure what happened but they seem very inconsistent.
    Stoudt is very raw and inaccurate but like I said Clemson very athletic. When a line opens as a field goal and jumps to 6/7 over 80% of time favorite loses. I'm playing a small play on Clemson.

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    Clemson looks good early

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    pretty clear sooner defense doesn't feel like playing ....even if you are shit ....you can still gang tackle and fly to the ball.... a lot of standing around watching

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    Tubbs should get fukkin fired if they lose today

    so overrated as a coach

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    lol Tubbs

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    Lol chokelahoma

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    I know, lol, was BB coach....Hit A&M and doubled up on Clemson, looking good... It's amazing been liking a lot of dogs and they been winning outright.. Like Texas tonight and all the services are on Arkansas

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    that's pretty much all I had to see to know the sooners are toast knight was running around sideline to sidelines for about 10 seconds and still no one came free ...yikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Book Crook View Post
    I'm sure Clemson is ecstatic to be playing in this particular bowl.
    they look pretty happy to me..

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    The best strategy for betting bowls is taking the points. I posted this a few weeks ago and have done well this year. When I varied from it (Western Kentucky) it cost me...

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    I got Clemson + 205 ML --I read somewhere that the QB Stoudt usually didn't know to much in advance when he was starting but this game he had 3 weeks to prepare -- 27-0 now hope the Defence can continue to stifle OU

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack View Post
    The best strategy for betting bowls is taking the points. I posted this a few weeks ago and have done well this year. When I varied from it (Western Kentucky) it cost me...
    Not so much taking the points because I've won big with Rice, Memphis, La. Tech and Utah giving away points. I think it's more going against conventional wisdom. Seems to be whoever the public is betting, go the opposite.

    Another big thing to look at in these games is travel and motivation. Teams that are traveling big distances are not doing well. Nevada, BYU, Oklahoma and Northern Illinois are all laying eggs. Oklahoma's motivation tonight is god awful. They don't want to be there. That's plain as day and the announcers are saying the same thing.

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    Wow

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    That fumble said it all. Their heads are up their asses.

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    Take Oklahoma 2nd half. Bob Stoops is going be pissed in the locker rooms.

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    underdogs

    I never listen to my own advice

    Works almost every year..BLIND

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    I took Clemson-17.5 live ATS back in 2nd qtr for a lot -125 juice. Not second guessing that bet at all right now

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    If you fade this kind of odd line movement every time, you'd hit way more often than you'd miss.

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    40 - 0 and Clemson throwing the bomb... Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    I got Clemson + 205 ML --I read somewhere that the QB Stoudt usually didn't know to much in advance when he was starting but this game he had 3 weeks to prepare -- 27-0 now hope the Defence can continue to stifle OU
    WOO HOO
    40-0 end of the 3rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    If you fade this kind of odd line movement every time, you'd hit way more often than you'd miss.
    Yes, it's amazing, one of my philosophies .... When you cross the 3 as an opening line and gets steamed to 6-7 it's almost a guaranteed loss... Probably 80%....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Tubbs should get fukkin fired if they lose today

    so overrated as a coach
    AMEN!!! Shoulda been canned a long time ago. Sucks as a head coach, just has the talent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer62 View Post
    Yes, it's amazing, one of my philosophies .... When you cross the 3 as an opening line and gets steamed to 6-7 it's almost a guaranteed loss... Probably 80%....
    Doubt it. Just stands out more! If it hit 80% you wouldnt be on this forum!

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