1. 04-27-12 08:19 AM #1
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    Basic Strategy Pass Line Craps Bets Way Better Than Black Jack

    Why do guys play blackjack much more??
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  2. 04-27-12 08:22 AM #2
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    Pass on both. Video poker.
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  3. 04-27-12 08:29 AM #3
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    Video Poker yes but your leaving out one thing

    EXPERT PLAY only gives you an edge


    Your not bright man
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  4. 04-27-12 08:39 AM #4
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    Oh yah, I forgot... You're the one with a higher education...I'll stick to fishing, u fuk.
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  5. 04-27-12 09:00 AM #5
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    Table minimum on pass line then full odds behind. Hard to find tables with more than 7x odds tho, at least in AC.
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  6. 04-27-12 10:13 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    Table minimum on pass line then full odds behind. Hard to find tables with more than 7x odds tho, at least in AC.
    yeah there aren't many people that are going to have the minimum $10 on the pass line and then $1000 behind with full odds to minimize house edge.

    blackjack has a lower house edge for 99.999% of players
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  7. 04-27-12 10:17 AM #7
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    I feel like picking a fight with goldie locks today...
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  8. 04-27-12 10:19 AM #8
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    Single Zero Roulette w/La Partage = -1.35

    Passline = -1.41

    Dont pass = -1.36
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  9. 04-27-12 10:24 AM #9
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    at the sbr casino, its all fukked up. period.
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  10. 04-27-12 10:48 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Single Zero Roulette w/La Partage = -1.35

    Passline = -1.41

    Dont pass = -1.36
    Sammy you factoring in like 5x odds backing up your number as far as craps is concerned??
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  11. 04-27-12 10:49 AM #11
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    JJ , NO

    Odds are SEPARATE bets with NO affect on flat bet odds
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  12. 04-27-12 11:05 AM #12
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    0.02% with 100x odds on craps. Blackjack still the better game with correct BS. Most places only have max 10x odds.
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  13. 04-27-12 12:42 PM #13
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    I thought blackjack it has to be only one deck and dealer has to hold on any 17??
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  14. 04-27-12 04:13 PM #14
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    SD BJ can have a very low hold with decent rules. A typical 6D S17, DAS is right around .5%, perfect BS that is
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  15. 04-27-12 04:14 PM #15
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    O'Sheas in Vegas has 100x odds I think, or maybe Casino Royale, I forget. Do 100x max odds each roll, you will have some helluva swings, but in the long run, lose very little. Don't think they rate you comp wise on the Odds though
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  16. 04-27-12 04:19 PM #16
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    I like chasing don't pass 3 times.
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  17. 04-27-12 04:43 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbet1234 View Post
    0.02% with 100x odds on craps. Blackjack still the better game with correct BS. Most places only have max 10x odds.
    I read somewhere that the Rivera recently added 1000x odds to their pass line bet...

    BTW representing taking odds as "reducing" the edge is kindof disingenuous... For example a $5 bettor not taking odds is going to have the exact same expected loss as someone betting the same amount the on the pass line backing it up with full odds... Kindof like saying the edge of on a $5 bet on black in roulette is minuscule if the guy sitting next to you is willing to side bet you for 500 dollars and ignore the zeros...

    In reality the only thing taking odds does is send your variance through the roof...
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  18. 04-27-12 04:47 PM #18
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    don't pass > pass

    you wanna be buddies with everyone at the table or do you want a better chance to win?
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  19. 04-27-12 04:49 PM #19
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    They use a shoe that holds 6 decks and they hit on soft 17. Fuk BJ, it's too stressful watching the dealer pull on double face cards constantly.
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  20. 05-22-12 05:22 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbet1234 View Post
    0.02% with 100x odds on craps. Blackjack still the better game with correct BS. Most places only have max 10x odds.
    BJ with correct BS only gives you -0.5%
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  21. 05-22-12 05:32 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Video Poker yes but your leaving out one thing

    EXPERT PLAY only gives you an edge


    Your not bright man
    Read somewhere that you can get 0.1% at video poker with expert play, what are the best ways to find the correct chart for the right game?
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  22. 05-22-12 05:32 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    don't pass > pass

    you wanna be buddies with everyone at the table or do you want a better chance to win?
    The dealers and pit boss LOVE dopes like you at the table.
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  23. 05-22-12 05:40 PM #23
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    O'Sheas is gone. When I play craps I bet the don't pass and stay quiet. The dice always make it around the table.
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  24. 05-22-12 05:41 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avskum View Post
    Read somewhere that you can get 0.1% at video poker with expert play, what are the best ways to find the correct chart for the right game?
    Research. Not many full pay vp on strip. Check with mofoker. He is the vp guy.
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  25. 05-22-12 05:47 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    O'Sheas is gone. When I play craps I bet the don't pass and stay quiet. The dice always make it around the table.
    Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

    You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

    Depressing.
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  26. 05-22-12 05:52 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. J Trotter View Post
    Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

    You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

    Depressing.
    id rather be by myself with cash in my pocket than be around a bunch of broke mfers that lost all their money on the pass line
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  27. 05-22-12 05:52 PM #27
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    Pass on all of the above
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  28. 05-22-12 05:52 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. J Trotter View Post
    Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

    You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

    Depressing.
    Very true. The key is to set a win goal and walk. Cashed out $6300 in less than hour at Rio last night.
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  29. 05-22-12 05:54 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. J Trotter View Post
    Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

    You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

    Depressing.
    Its not depressing to me to win money. Always try to find a quiet sad looking table and load up on the DP and DC lines.
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  30. 05-22-12 05:56 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    Very true. The key is to set a win goal and walk. Cashed out $6300 in less than hour at Rio last night.
    Cool Story

    Tell it again
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  31. 05-23-12 02:14 AM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. J Trotter View Post
    Cool Story

    Tell it again
    Won $6300 in less than an hour at Rio 2 nights ago playing don't pass line on craps. There you go.
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  32. 05-23-12 04:01 AM #32
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    Just play outside on the roulette wheel boys. It's pretty much 50-50 not counting the occasional green zeros.
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  33. 05-24-12 04:36 PM #33
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    anyone here knows if you ever double in perfect play in video poker? cant find a good thread about video poker someone plz link me?
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  34. 05-24-12 04:45 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    Just play outside on the roulette wheel boys. It's pretty much 50-50 not counting the occasional green zeros.
    Not true

    http://wizardofodds.com/games/roulette/

    Betting the outside still carries a 5.26% house edge

    Not even the worst blackjack rules in Vegas are worse than Roulette when it comes to house edge

    If you play Roulette you are throwing your money away unless you don't care about winning/losing and just want to play for fun
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  35. 05-24-12 04:45 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post
    I read somewhere that the Rivera recently added 1000x odds to their pass line bet...

    BTW representing taking odds as "reducing" the edge is kindof disingenuous... For example a $5 bettor not taking odds is going to have the exact same expected loss as someone betting the same amount the on the pass line backing it up with full odds... Kindof like saying the edge of on a $5 bet on black in roulette is minuscule if the guy sitting next to you is willing to side bet you for 500 dollars and ignore the zeros...

    In reality the only thing taking odds does is send your variance through the roof...

    Thats all that really needed to be said


    Well done!
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