[Swinging Johnson]

I had a dream boys and here it is (without all that moisture).

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/nfl-...dings-a-48115/

[minet123]

Lions and Cowboys

[daneblazer]

Well we can count on this not happening

[nvrlose37]

Browns 4-12
Broncos 10-6 are way off

Bucs 4-10, where are the other two games?

[Dollars2Donuts]

I like that you took the time to put this together....but....

49ers are not going 14-2 with their schedule and in that division

I hate to say this, but I bet every sportswriter is going to be right around these numbers for most teams, except maybe Detroit. I think you took a lot of time to put this together, but maybe some additional time on really figuring out the surprises would have been more productive.

I hope you don't mind my input. Good to see somebody with this much initiative either way.

cheers,

[Swinging Johnson]

Browns 4-12
Broncos 10-6 are way off

Bucs 4-10, where are the other two games?

How dare you make things up! J/K...my bad, fixed.

[Swinging Johnson]

I like that you took the time to put this together....but....

49ers are not going 14-2 with their schedule and in that division

I hate to say this, but I bet every sportswriter is going to be right around these numbers for most teams, except maybe Detroit. I think you took a lot of time to put this together, but maybe some additional time on really figuring out the surprises would have been more productive.

I hope you don't mind my input. Good to see somebody with this much initiative either way.

cheers,

D2D, I will take that kind of criticism seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Thanks for reading.

[KnownUnknown]

I agree- both Detroit and Dallas will have serious defensive challenges. Offense is great but you still have to score more points than the opposition to win the game. Thank God for the point spread, lol.

[k13]

Looks Ok except lions ...

[dlunc3]

Eagles and skins are top two In NFC east.. Got that division all backwards. Also too high on det and too low on Denver.
Other then that you could be pretty close

[Maniac]

Good write-up, did something similar myself the other day and for what it's worth my thinking is as follows:

AFC East
Same order as you, though I have Miami + Jets with 9 and 8 wins and Bills with just 3. Defensively they are a mess, and not sure the signing of Watkins will really make a lot of difference to the number of games they will win and they look a team that could well struggle this year.

AFC North:
Still think Cincy win this division, don't really rate Baltimore or Pittsburgh this year - though it does seem that all the "experts" out there really do like Pittsburgh, and the more I look at it the less I can see why to be honest so either I have missed something in my analysis, or most of the experts are wrong here, so happy to discuss why anyone likes them to see if it will change my view!

AFC South:
Agree with Indy winning the Div and Houston improving (though have them at 9 wins) but disagree with Tennessee - I think this is a team in a fair bit of trouble and they havent really improved from what I can see, although they havent gotten much worse either admittedly. They do have a decent schedule, but I still don't see more than 4 or 5 wins at most and actually think that Jacksonville might even finish ahead of them, leaving them bottom of the Div.

AFC West:
Really don't like Kansas this year and they have gotten weaker for me, particularly on the O-Line which will lead to Smith being under more pressure and also the defence looks worse on paper as well, so not sure they can rely on that this year. Really can't seem them anywhere near a winning record and I am all over the Under 8.5 season wins, and looking at the under 8 wins at +110 as value as well.

NFC East:
Would be interested to know what you see in Dallas to think they win win the division this year as I evidently don't see the same and actually have them finishing dead last. Defensively they look a mess, particularly in the secondary and with some of the pass-heavy teams they face this year (Philly x2, New Orleans, Chicago, Indianapolis) as well as San Fran + Seattle and that is potentially 7 losses right there, with still a couple of trickyish games vs Houston + St Louis as well as 4 vs the Giants + Skins and again I like the Under 7.5 here personally.

NFC North:
Disagree with Detroit again here, for many similar reasons to why I don't like Dallas - their secondary is full of holes and they have to play GB x2, CHI x2, New Orleans, Atlanta + New England all of whom should be able to put up big numbers as well as the Giants which won't be easy and also Miami + Jets which won't be easy either (though that is in keeping with my view that they are both improved of course!). Their offence does looks scary good, but I see them being involved in a lot of shoot-outs this year and just don't see the defence keeping them in games enough.

NFC South:
I can see a big step backwards for Carolina this year - once again their secondary is garbage, and they have to play NO x2, ATL x2, DET, CHI, PHI, GB which is potentially 8 losses there plus throw in Seattle for a liekly 9th loss. I have Tampa as quite improved this year so will cause them some problems, and Cincy as well as Baltimore + Pittsburgh - even though I don't rate either of them this year, I do rate them higher than the Panthers. If you look at their schedule I can't see more than 1 or 2 wins at the very most before their week 12 BYE week and it is not out of the realms of possibility that they could be 0-11 at that point. Under 8.5 wins is my biggest season win view of the year.

NFC West:
Pretty much same view as you right the way through with San Fran just edging the division ahead of Seattle, also St Louis I have for 9 wins as well.

More than happy to hear any other opinions anyone has

[opie1988]

Eagles and skins are top two In NFC east.. Got that division all backwards. Also too high on det and too low on Denver.
Other then that you could be pretty close

Good stuff, pal. I needed a laugh this morning.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Good stuff, pal. I needed a laugh this morning.

just watch the Rangers play

[opie1988]

just watch the Rangers play

Unreal. After all the blunts we've shared....

#rollup

[MoneyIsWater]

Browns at 4-12?

You're kidding.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Unreal. After all the blunts we've shared....

#rollup

at least the Rangers can score runs..my Padres are like watching the paint dry offensively

[dlunc3]

Good stuff, pal. I needed a laugh this morning.

Ok. I Dont concern myself with points normally, but since thats all we have to work with...

Ill make you a 3k points wager that either philly or wash wins that division.. You take dallas and NYG.

Sound good? funny how there is no chance in hell you back up your nonsense and accept this...

[dlunc3]

or we can just bet philly vs dallas to win the division? if neither wins its a push..

either is wager is fine by me.. philly and wash are class of the division with dallas nowhere to be found

[BigdaddyQH]

Washington? Are you serious? A 3-13 team being the "class of the division"? I hope that stuff you are smoking did not cost you a lot of green. I will buy Philly, but the entire division is the worst in the NFC.

[dlunc3]

Washington? Are you serious? A 3-13 team being the "class of the division"? I hope that stuff you are smoking did not cost you a lot of green. I will buy Philly, but the entire division is the worst in the NFC.

RG3 will be better this year and that offense has the capability of being explosive. Dallas and NY are dead.

1) Philly
2) Wash
3) NY
4) Dal

Mark it down

[Swinging Johnson]

Browns at 4-12?

You're kidding.

What can I say...Im optimistic.

[k13]

Browns at 4-12?

You're kidding.

5-11 maybe??

[k13]

Why does everyone think rams win 8-9 games???

[Swinging Johnson]

Why does everyone think rams win 8-9 games???

Two first round picks this year, phenomenal defense (4 first rounders on D-Line), Bradford healthy with new spread offense to take the heat off strictly pass only. Tough, tough division obviously but if they can go even 2-4 against NFC West foes they have a relatively easy schedule after that. I believe .500 is fairly doable. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/nfl-...eason-a-48093/

[Maniac]

Why does everyone think rams win 8-9 games???

Solid team last year, and improved on both sides of the ball in the draft - Robinson, Donald + Joyner I can see all starting from day 1 and also I really like what Tre Mason offers and expect to see him taking his fair share of carries from Stacy.

Outside of the division the schedule isn't too bad either and I have them winning both vs Arizona as well as Minny, Tampa, Dallas, Kansas, San Diego, Oakland and the Giants.

[2Shirts]

5-11 maybe??

They'll be closer to 8-8. May not get there, but they will show real improvement. Especially with regards to how they close out games this year. They have the ingredients for a top 10 or better defense and they'll also have a strong running game. Which will be what carries them and allows the QB and WR situations to evolve.

[dlunc3]

Ok. I Dont concern myself with points normally, but since thats all we have to work with...

Ill make you a 3k points wager that either philly or wash wins that division.. You take dallas and NYG.

Sound good? funny how there is no chance in hell you back up your nonsense and accept this...

[opie1988]

Hey lunker....I'll take this wager. But I need better odds. You're taking the 2 teams favored to win, and giving me the long shots at even. Let's be real.

I don't have enough points for 3k. Give me realistic odds, and let's make it 1k.

[dlunc3]

Hey lunker....I'll take this wager. But I need better odds. You're taking the 2 teams favored to win, and giving me the long shots at even. Let's be real.

I don't have enough points for 3k. Give me realistic odds, and let's make it 1k.

philly is favored in vegas followed by nyg and then dal / wash are tied for 3rd..

since you thought it was funny that i called philly and wash the class of the division and you think dal and nyg are the top two, lets have at it.. you call the odds and we'll make it 1k

should you just pay me now or should we wait until week 8 when dallas is 5 games out?

[ChiLLx]

The Browns will not be 8-8

[smitch124]

My model has the Niners at 3-13. Now she's a dumb slut, but I have to agree with her if I want sex

[I/O]

Lions and Cowboys

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