1. 10-21-14 05:36 AM #71
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    Nevada does not even care about sportsbetting and can care less if NJ gets it

    Its not even on their radar as far as revenue
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  2. 10-21-14 08:31 AM #72
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    But how is it legal for New Jersey to go over Washington D.C.'s head?
    that part doesn't make sense to me
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  3. 10-21-14 08:59 AM #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by existential View Post
    Nevada has no say about what happens in New Jersey or any other state for that matter
    Any company holding a Nevada Gaming license must get approval before doing business outside of Nevada, if they dont they could get a fine or even lose it's license to operate in Nevada.
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  4. 10-21-14 09:23 AM #74
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    I say odds NJ takes bet Sunday are +500 right now

    Lets see how this plays out
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  5. 10-21-14 09:43 AM #75
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    make it legal and make it legal online. Offshores aren't going anywhere but states can take a chunk of change away from offshores if they make it legal
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  6. 10-21-14 10:00 AM #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post
    But how is it legal for New Jersey to go over Washington D.C.'s head?
    that part doesn't make sense to me
    are you familiar with how a handful of states out west have made marijuana legal?
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  7. 10-21-14 10:14 AM #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceBRUCEbruce View Post
    are you familiar with how a handful of states out west have made marijuana legal?
    While it is legal in Washington & Colorado it's still against federal law, feds could come in and charge store owners, suppliers etc if they wanted to but at this time they choose not to. In most all cases federal law trumps state law.
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  8. 10-21-14 10:48 AM #78
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    I don't think with marijuana their major corporations involve like gambling

    Places like William Hill have a lot to lose if the feds come after them

    It's why no sports gaming operators want to come to New Jersey

    To New Jersey Meadowlands wants nothing to do with this right now
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  9. 10-21-14 11:43 AM #79
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    pulling for New Jersey but everything I have read this morning makes them a pretty big dog to accept bets on Sunday. Just wondering if this is the last shot for them and if they give up after this. If that is the case its going to be a long time before we get state sponsored sports betting.
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  10. 10-21-14 11:49 AM #80
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    I think this is their last shot so they should just go through it and face the consequences

    It's amazing how hard this is to get past

    It's why other states aren't even attempting it

    I hope it passes for the Jersey boys here
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  11. 10-21-14 11:50 AM #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Nevada does not even care about sportsbetting and can care less if NJ gets it

    Its not even on their radar as far as revenue
    Exactly. Why people keep mentioning them as a big player in this is beyond stupid.
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  12. 10-21-14 12:03 PM #82
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    Vegas is actually gradually going towards cities like Chicago now I New York City as far as entertainment shopping and restaurants

    Of course the gambling is there but there really branching out
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  13. 10-21-14 12:32 PM #83
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    The injunction hearing starts in 2 hours..
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  14. 10-21-14 12:35 PM #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by existential View Post
    The injunction hearing starts in 2 hours..
    This is a big hearing with major implications
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  15. 10-21-14 12:36 PM #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Nevada does not even care about sportsbetting and can care less if NJ gets it

    Its not even on their radar as far as revenue
    I would disagree. Vegas and the NFl. NBA, NCAA etc. Have a consolidation of power. If other states legalize sports gaming the consolidation is lost if Vegas and the leagues can't bring in the new states to the consolidation of power then you may have total anarchy with players actually winning.
    States who pass laws allowing sports gaming should have ironclad provisions that stop outside influence and alliances. Only alliance should be directly to Governors office who upon seeking and winning Governor of said state should take on all responsibility of the gaming industry with strict transparency and laws that would penalize Governors with prison time if any alliance is made without the peoples approval and or knowledge.
    Now, i need some winners for this week
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  16. 10-21-14 12:42 PM #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    This is a big hearing with major implications
    people have asked Senator Lesniak if there will be a live video feed, would be cool to see it.
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  17. 10-21-14 12:57 PM #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by klemopixx View Post
    True the Feds have no reason to stop this, its more likely the sports leagues that will take legal action to stop sports betting. One of the biggest stipulations being no wagering on events played in the state of NJ.
    There's 2 stipulations and they only concern collegiate teams, not Pro's:

    1. No betting on any collegiate events involving New Jersey schools (no matter where the event is held).. i.e. no betting on Rutgers, period.

    2. No betting on any collegiate events that take place in New Jersey (regardless if they involve a New Jersey collegiate team or not).. i.e. no betting on a Notre Dame vs. Syracuse game held at Met Life Stadium.
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  18. 10-21-14 03:47 PM #88
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    So what's the verdict? Can I head down to Monmouth Park and make some wagers on Sunday?
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  19. 10-21-14 04:00 PM #89
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    They must still be in court
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  20. 10-21-14 05:42 PM #90
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    The same judge that ruled in favor of the leagues before is the judge again! and they say the judges are picked randomly??? are you faking kidding me?? They are going to screw NJ in the end unfortunately.
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    any updates??

    unreal with same judge
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  22. 10-21-14 06:21 PM #92
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    The NFL, NCAA and other professional sports leagues have filed a lawsuit Monday in the hopes of preventing New Jersey from allowing sports betting this weekend, according to ESPN's David Purdum.
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  23. 10-21-14 07:08 PM #93
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    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...elated_stories

    decision will be by the end of the week
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    Probably going to come down to who's paying who

    Corruption runs rampant in New Jersey
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  25. 10-21-14 09:18 PM #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by temple2010 View Post
    The same judge that ruled in favor of the leagues before is the judge again! and they say the judges are picked randomly??? are you faking kidding me?? They are going to screw NJ in the end unfortunately.
    pretty sick isn't it
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  26. 10-22-14 05:56 AM #96
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    I say they put the injunction on until they hear this in court

    I would be shocked if mom park is taking bets on Sunday
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  27. 10-22-14 07:56 AM #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by temple2010 View Post
    The same judge that ruled in favor of the leagues before is the judge again! and they say the judges are picked randomly??? are you faking kidding me?? They are going to screw NJ in the end unfortunately.
    is this true? Cant be.....
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  28. 10-22-14 09:07 AM #98
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    My question is, "Who cares what a judge says?" Isn't that ultimately the NJ position? A judge is impotent. He can declare unconstitutional things all day long, but if no one enforces the supposed laws on the books, it doesn't matter.

    How is this any different than marijuana issues currently? Technically, the DOJ could go in an bust every state for marijuana but they've deemed it silly, too much effort, or are just waiting for someone politically to make an example of.
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  29. 10-22-14 09:24 AM #99
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    Goes to show how dumb politicians and govt officials are. They have no idea what the public actually does as far as
    betting on games. From local bookies, pick 'em tickets, football/ baseball squares and between friends. Then you
    have us degenerates betting offshore.

    Their main concern is how do they get a piece of it and how to tax it.
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  30. 10-22-14 09:45 AM #100
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    Some think NJ politicians just doing this for elections and can care less if it passes

    Basically pp;political strategy//"we tried"
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  31. 10-22-14 10:04 AM #101
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    Couldn't care less! If they could care less it means they care somewhat. Sorry for being dik.
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  32. 10-22-14 10:17 AM #102
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    edawg where you live??

    Lets go drinking man..we will buy a fukkin keg and get some hookers
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  33. 10-22-14 12:20 PM #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Goes to show how dumb politicians and govt officials are. They have no idea what the public actually does as far as
    betting on games. From local bookies, pick 'em tickets, football/ baseball squares and between friends. Then you
    have us degenerates betting offshore.

    Their main concern is how do they get a piece of it and how to tax it.
    Exactly the same in health care. No idea, they themselves have a gold plated plan --- big gov't likes to score points acting like they are doing something for you
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  34. 10-22-14 12:30 PM #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    My question is, "Who cares what a judge says?" Isn't that ultimately the NJ position? A judge is impotent. He can declare unconstitutional things all day long, but if no one enforces the supposed laws on the books, it doesn't matter.
    been thinking about that too, but Christie and the Senator both said they want consent from the judge in order to 'eliminate the possibility of future expensive litigation'.

    the fact is, however, by Christie signing the Senator's bill, privatized sports betting is now officially decriminalized within the State. that's big and nothing can change that. at the very least, it creates a grey area where an operation could move forward in theory.
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  35. 10-22-14 12:33 PM #105
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    It seems to me New Jersey is just not prepared like usual

    Everything is done half ass

    Watch this backfire and cost New Jersey millions in lawsuits
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