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    You're a sucker if you bet the Pats/Chiefs game tonight

    and you would just be chasing action. Two teams that we have no idea how good they are. Wait for a better spot.

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    I disagree.

    One team will win by 10+. Just have to figure out which one and pound the winner.

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    The games a mismatch in my opinion Kansas City is a very strong play

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    jj cradle me
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    Man I'm happy to see someone use the proper your
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    Disagree, I think Chiefs are great bets + points and + ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Disagree, I think Chiefs are great bets + points and + ML.

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    I'm actually starting to feel this way too...I see either team winning, although I do lean KC

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    And here you have it, LT has spoken. To make a profit, you must follow profits. You see what i did there.
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    NE

    (leaning to the Over)

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    I disagree, Chiefs ML is a great play.

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    Patriots for a nickel here. Sharps have enough on KC, books looking for my square money so they got it at -2.5


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    Many are picking pats

    Many are picking KC

    I'm fukkin confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    I disagree.

    One team will win by 10+. Just have to figure out which one and pound the winner.
    Or just bet both teams with alt lines laying the big wood and lock in a guaranteed profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    I disagree.

    One team will win by 10+. Just have to figure out which one and pound the winner.
    No chance in my opinion, close match, take the points.

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    I think the problem is that people are so reluctant to accept the fact that Tom Braddy and the Patriots are no longer the same offensive super power they were 4 years ago. This patriots of 2014 are average accept that fact. Arrowhead Stadium will be packed, KC will get up for this game, but then again, this is MNF and all it takes is one bad call by the refs to decide the outcome of this game.

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    pilfered from down the dial (thanks IE )

    Five Chiefs to Keep an Eye On Against the Pats

    1. Justin Houston – Given the serious struggles on the Patriots the offensive line, it can’t be much of a comfort that Houston - a pass rushing demon - will be lined up across from them. A fourth year man out of Georgia, Houston has risen from third round pick in 2011 to premiere, Pro Bowl linebacker, as his 29.5 sacks, 24 of which have come since the start of 2012 including 11 in just 11 games last year, will attest. He’s rolled up three more in the Chiefs first three games of this season and may have a little extra motivation given that he’s playing for a new contract. And if the Pats can contain him, that hardly means they’re out of the woods because the other side of the Chiefs’ defense features…

    2. Tamba Hali - … Another pass rushing monster. Hali is ferocious, a big, fast, strong, instinctive player who drew big time praise from Bill Belichick this week, with the Pats’ coach calling him “probably one of the best technique pass rushers in the league.” Hali, primarily a right outside backer, is a nine-year vet with 75.5 sacks, 11 of them last year and a career high of 14.5 back in 2010. He’ll get a chance to go to work against the weakest of the weak spots on the Pats’ O-line, the left side, where Nate Solder and Marcus Cannon must step up and improve on what’s been a mostly putrid showing for both through the team’s first three games. Hali was on the Chiefs injury report all week with an ankle problem and although he’s probable to play Monday night, anything that might possibly slow him down would be beneficial for the Pats.

    3. Jamaal Charles – Hali isn’t the only Chief dealing with ankle issues. Charles, the Chiefs’ star running back who signed a big contract extension during training camp, suffered a high ankle sprain in Week 2 against Denver and sat out last week when the Chiefs earned their first win of the season. It seems a bit odd that a high ankle sprain can be healed in just two weeks, especially for a running back (and more so when his backup, Knile Davis, has 211 yards and three TDs in his absence). But Charles is listed as probable for the game andwas reported to have “done everything” in practice on Saturday, so he most likely gets the call. When healthy, Charles is as dangerous as any skill player in the NFL, he’s averaged at least five yards per rushing attempt in each of his previous six seasons, topping out at 6.4 in 2010 when he ran for 1,467 yards. He’s a receiving threat too, amassing almost 2,000 yards through the air in his career and posting a career-high 70 catches last season. Charles is Kansas City’s most potent weapon on offense and has the ability to single-handedly take over a game.

    4. Alex Smith – It took Smith, a former No. 1 overall pick, years to gain a foothold on the starting job with his original team, the 49ers. Then when he did, he took them to the NFC Championship game in 2011. He lasted just half the season the following year before losing that job to Colin Kaepernick. So the Niners let him go, and Smith wound up in KC, as so many ex-San Francisco QBs do, flourishing last season to the tune of a 9-0 start and the Chiefs first playoff appearance since 2010. Smith isn’t a big armed guy but he can complete most throws with accuracy and is more than mobile enough to get outside the pocket and keep plays alive. Smith is a safe QB, the kind of guy who won’t necessarily put a team on his back to win games but hardly ever makes enough mistakes to lose them. He’s thrown just 20 picks in his last 44 games. The Pats will have to work extra hard to force him into making mistakes.

    5. Travis Kelce – At 6-foot-5, 260 pounds, the second year tight end out of Cincinnati is borderline Gronk-esque. He leads the Chiefs in receiving yards with 166 and has 10 catches, good for second on the team. Veteran Dwayne Bowe is still the No. 1 target for Smith but Kelce looks to be next in line, especially in the red zone, where his size could make him dominant. They’ve been much better at it this season but a real trouble area for the Pats the past few years has been covering tight ends and backs in the middle of the field. To that end, don’t be surprised to see Jamie Collins or even Jerod Mayo spending some quality time with Kelce in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Kansas City is a very underrated team be very careful here
    So you go from saying be careful betting against KC to them being a very strong play.

    Must have been shift change.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The games a mismatch in my opinion Kansas City is a very strong play
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    more from elswhere (thanks Sam )

    Matchup: New England Patriots at Kansas City Chiefs
    Spread: Opened Patriots minus-3.5, now Patriots minus-3

    Total: Opened 45, now 46
    </center>
    Jay Kornegay says: "The Patriots opened up
    minus-3.5 at Kansas City, and within a half hour, the line was bet up to
    minus-4. Most of the action on this game was based on the status of
    Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles.
    He looks probable as this point, and the line that was flip-flopping
    between minus-3.5 and minus-4 earlier in the week has now settled at
    minus-3 (minus-120). The Patriots have lost a lot of public support, and
    we don't expect them to gain popularity for this game. We expect the
    line to remain the same with both teams getting the support.
    "The total opened 45 and has now climbed to 46."



    Picks
    Dave Tuley says: "Home underdogs on 'Monday Night
    Football' aren't the automatic play they used to be. And the Kansas City
    home-field advantage also isn't as strong as it used to be either [see
    season opener against Tennessee]. New England is also 10-1 straight-up
    (SU) and 8-3 ATS in its past 11 occasions as a favorite on MNF, so I'm
    not going to fade that."
    Pick: Pass.



    Erin Rynning says:
    "This is definitely not the Patriots' high-tempo, juggernaut offense
    we've seen in previous years. After a slow start to the season a year
    ago, Tom Brady
    is struggling to consistently lead the Patriots on scoring drives. The
    offensive line is clearly a weak link, and the Chiefs' front is capable
    of wreaking havoc against a soft front. Meanwhile, I wouldn't read too
    much into the Chiefs putting up 34 points last week against Miami. The
    Dolphins' defenders were clearly not on the same page. On the other
    hand, the Patriots have an excellent defense. Look for a low-scoring
    game Monday night."
    Pick: Under.



    Maddux Sports says:
    "Both of these teams have looked very unimpressive early on, but it's
    the Chiefs that look to have a smidge of value this week. They qualify
    in a 42-10 ATS Week 4 situation and a 99-35 ATS home underdog situation.
    I took Kansas City plus-4 early in the week, as my model has this game
    lined at New England minus-3. I like the Chiefs a lot more if you can
    get 3.5 than 3, where I wouldn't have much of an opinion."
    ATS Pick: Chiefs (at minus-3.5 or higher).



    Wunderdog says: "New England is generating just 5.5 yards per pass play, and Stevan Ridley
    is generating just 3.3 yards per carry. The Chiefs are going to be
    flying high to face New England on 'Monday Night Football,' and this
    team has the defense to make things difficult for the faltering Patriots
    offense. The Chiefs have hosted just two MNF games in the past nine
    years, and both resulted in straight-up, underdog wins. The Chiefs own a
    22-18 SU record in their past 40 games as a home dog of fewer than five
    points, so they're experienced in this situation. We are getting three
    points on a hungry Monday night dog. Take the Chiefs plus the points.
    ATS pick: Chiefs (minus-3).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtycash66 View Post
    I think the problem is that people are so reluctant to accept the fact that Tom Braddy and the Patriots are no longer the same offensive super power they were 4 years ago. This patriots of 2014 are average accept that fact. Arrowhead Stadium will be packed, KC will get up for this game, but then again, this is MNF and all it takes is one bad call by the refs to decide the outcome of this game.
    NE should never have been 4 point favs in this one. That's why I'm on them. -3

    I don't question the lines makers. And I think the public and definitely the touts are on KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire in da hole View Post
    So you go from saying be careful betting against KC to them being a very strong play.

    Must have been shift change.
    put it on Ignore

    She's a distraction. That's bad when you are gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    NE should never have been 4 point favs in this one. That's why I'm on them. -3

    I don't question the lines makers. And I think the public and definitely the touts are on KC.
    I/O: you have everybody totally confused??? WTF are you betting. Never mind why. Tooooooooooooo much BS.

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    He thinks the line is fishy + some touts on KC so NE is his play. All the copy pasta is his thought process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    I/O: you have everybody totally confused??? WTF are you betting. Never mind why. Tooooooooooooo much BS.
    You seem to be confused often

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek173 View Post
    and you would just be chasing action. Two teams that we have no idea how good they are. Wait for a better spot.
    If we are suckers and you are so intelligent, why are you even responding to this thread ????

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    All of you have already made a decision on this game, not like anyone's gonna change your mind its all about posting with flair so you can mindlessly bump it after the game or if wrong you can pretend you never said anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
    He thinks the line is fishy + some touts on KC so NE is his play. All the copy pasta is his thought process.
    I just thought it would be funny to post some of the stuff I come across on the net about this game. Stevie busy posting at a gambling forum not to play the only game on the board tonight.

    The only stuff I paid attention to is what Kornegay said. Even though it's old info at this point. He knows his shit.

    And there is a great deal of touts on the dog in this one. Vegas will need NE imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    If we are suckers and you are so intelligent, why are you even responding to this thread ????
    RETRACTION: Forgot the OP started this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    You seem to be confused often
    Only when dealing with you my friend. BOL tonight in whatever the hell you are taking.

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    I do agree I/O that's why I took the bad vig but good number of -2.5. Reeks of money all over KC to me, everyone is well aware of NE shortcomings and home dogs aren't exactly a hidden secret anymore. I think the books are gonna need NE tonight strangely enough but either way my pick is simply based on NE is the better team. I have them as 7 points fav on a neutral site so I'm alright with 2.5. Good luck to all tnight.

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    BOL to all tonight. Time for a few, EST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
    I do agree I/O that's why I took the bad vig but good number of -2.5. Reeks of money all over KC to me, everyone is well aware of NE shortcomings and home dogs aren't exactly a hidden secret anymore. I think the books are gonna need NE tonight strangely enough but either way my pick is simply based on NE is the better team. I have them as 7 points fav on a neutral site so I'm alright with 2.5. Good luck to all tnight.
    Doesn't look like that at all. $1 million more bet on Pats at Consensus books.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    If we are suckers and you are so intelligent, why are you even responding to this thread ????
    i have no idea

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