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    TheLock
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    Stanton deserves the NL MVP

    Kershaw is amazing.

    Kershaw has played in 24 games.


    Stanton has played in 143 games and he is leading almost every critical offensive category.

    Marlins lost 100 games last year. They're 3.5 games out of the 2nd Wild Card spot right now. They would be BURIED without Stanton.


    Cy Young is for pitchers.

    MVP is for positional players.


    Do the right thing, MLB.

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    only if the Marlins get a wild card birth.

    MVP has to play for a playoff team IMO.

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    marlins would b locked into playoffs if their ace didn't get hurt so early in the season

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    this is a sharp thread

    yes he should win it.

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    Kershaw ainec

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    Agree. And I think Stanton will win it, playoffs or not.

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    Kershaw deserves both

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    I wish the Astros would trade for him, and then sign him to a long term deal. Houston would be an automatic wildcard contender.

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    This vote won't even be close.
    Stanton will win it easily.
    You most likely will never see a pitcher ever win it again no matter how great a season he has.
    It's been accepted as hitters award now.
    Pitchers shouldn't even be allowed to get votes since they have their own award anyway.

    And oh by the way, how juicy is an MVP for Stanton for next year?
    Can you say 30 mill a year? It could happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    Kershaw is amazing.

    Kershaw has played in 24 games.


    Stanton has played in 143 games and he is leading almost every critical offensive category.

    Marlins lost 100 games last year. They're 3.5 games out of the 2nd Wild Card spot right now. They would be BURIED without Stanton.


    Cy Young is for pitchers.

    MVP is for positional players.



    Do the right thing, MLB.
    eod

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    Stantons face just got crushed by a Fiers fastball.

    Carted off.

    Fiers hit next batter high and in all you know what broke lose.

    No clue what drugs home plate ump is on.

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    This is like bizarro world umpiring....


    The home plate umpire called BOTH batters (Stanton and Johnson) out.

    Stanton got hit basically in the left eye.

    But he got called out.


    WOW

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    Just saw this..wow!

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    Shit man.

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    Good for the Marlins standing up for Stanton like they did.

    That's what you gotta do.

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    wow talk about a jinxing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    wow talk about a jinxing
    Kershaw for the double!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    This is like bizarro world umpiring....


    The home plate umpire called BOTH batters (Stanton and Johnson) out.

    Stanton got hit basically in the left eye.

    But he got called out.


    WOW
    What's bizarre about it? They both swung. I hope Stanton's ok cuz that was awful but the umps made the right calls.

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    Arch common

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    What's bizarre about it? They both swung. I hope Stanton's ok cuz that was awful but the umps made the right calls.

    The ball either hit Johnson's bat (foul ball) or hit his hand/wrist/arm (hit by pitch). Those are the only 2 options.

    Please explain how a swinging strike was the right call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    The ball either hit Johnson's bat (foul ball) or hit his hand/wrist/arm (hit by pitch). Those are the only 2 options.

    Please explain how a swinging strike was the right call.
    Because they swung...and did not hit the ball...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    Because they swung...and did not hit the ball...

    I've watched the replay no less than 12 times.


    The ball either HIT THE BATTER or HIT THE BAT.

    how can calling strike 3 be the right call?

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    did he swing the bat?

    if he swings and the ball hits his body it is still a strike and the HBP does not result in a base but instead is a strike

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    I've watched the replay no less than 12 times.


    The ball either HIT THE BATTER or HIT THE BAT.

    how can calling strike 3 be the right call?
    He swung. Doesn't matter if it hits him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post

    if he swings and the ball hits his body it is still a strike and the HBP does not result in a base but instead is a strike

    Now I'm not sure.

    I have to take a look again.


    I thought there was discretion involved, though.


    What we have here is 2 batters getting hit by a pitch and one strike out being recorded.


    We may never see that happen again in our lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    did he swing the bat?

    if he swings and the ball hits his body it is still a strike and the HBP does not result in a base but instead is a strike


    Ok I just watched this at bat a few more times.


    What if you are first hit by the pitch and THEN you swing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    Ok I just watched this at bat a few more times.


    What if you are first hit by the pitch and THEN you swing?
    It is still a swinging strike as long as the action is continuous.

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    The pitch to Johnson was tailing in a bit and very high but pretty much right over the plate. Johnson loves crowding the plate and getting hit. I think he tried to get hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    It is still a swinging strike as long as the action is continuous.
    So what if the bat comes forward purely due to reaction to being hit on the hand. That doesn't seem right. Once the ball strikes the batter shouldn't the play be dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    So what if the bat comes forward purely due to reaction to being hit on the hand. That doesn't seem right. Once the ball strikes the batter shouldn't the play be dead?
    The ball is dead BUT the reactionary "swing" is still part of the play (goes back to the continuous part). Shitty if that does indeed happen but that is how the rule reads.

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    99% of the time the batter recoils, so it is rarely an issue.

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    the guy most likely would've won the nl mvp, probably out for the season, and you guys are arguing about a fukking strike. unfukkingreal...

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    Reed Johnson did not swing at that pitch.

    Beside the point though. What the penetrate was Fiers doing throwing the very next pitch up and in? Right after drilling Stanton in the face with a penetrating heater? Then throws his arms up while looking at the Marlin dugout. Fiers is penetrating asshole. No way he threw at Stanton's face on purpose. But if the farm hand was that upset to continue, he should have removed his scrawny ass from the game. Like Redmond said, back to back up and ins, and he did not like hearing it from the Marlin bench? What the penetrate did Fiers expect? An early Christmas card?
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    WOW!! I agree with Rscene though... What was the pitcher doing throwing up and in on the VERY next batter??
    Anyways,. had to show this clip.. This hurts to just watch!


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    Sorry posted twice.. Had to delete..
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