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    Has anyone been paid out on the total? I'm still waiting to see what my book does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    Hey LT, what happens if some one had this play in an open parlay, but it was the first and only play in that parlay? Does the whole parlay get canceled or is the first and only play a push with the remaining spots still open?
    The latter. Not that it matters because even if they refunded it, you would just start another one with the refunded money so it's really the exact same thing.

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    Heres an interesting scenario

    I had UNDER 3.5 runs live at pinny during the middle of the 9th inning. How is that graded?

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    I had royals ML

    I am happy

    Although I believe Indians got extremely lucky at the top of the 10th, and that last hit was due to the wind

    suck it Indians

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    Anyone who had KC should go buy a lotto ticket. Now. Hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    Heres an interesting scenario

    I had UNDER 3.5 runs live at pinny during the middle of the 9th inning. How is that graded?

    I would say over 3.5... KC scored at the bottom of the 9th, and after the last full inning (the 9th) the score was 2-2 (over 3.5). that's how I'm interpreting the rules

    However read:

    MLB Rules for Live Betting:

    1. These rules apply to all wagers made during live MLB wagering.
    2. For grading purposes, all games must go 8.5 innings and be played to completion within 7 days of their start time for wagers to have action.
    3. Wagers on games that are suspended or otherwise not finished on the day of game, but are finished within 7 days of their start time, have action and will be graded based on the completed game score.




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    From 5Dimes:

    All regular season and exhibition baseball games are considered official after 5 innings of play (4½ if the home team is winning). If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play – unless the home team scores to tie or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. When betting on baseball totals or run-lines, the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is winning).

    If you have Indians ML, then your game will be graded as a loser. I personally got hosed on this as I had Indians -1 for Live Betting and my book recognizes normal Baseball rules.

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    I parlay was paid out


    258965090-1 8/31/14 7:10pm $296.96 $603.30 $544.43 Win 2 Team Parlay
    Cancelled 8/31/14 8:05pm MLB Baseball 972 Kansas City Royals -153* vs Cleveland Indians (T House - L must Start D Duffy - L must Start)
    Win 8/31/14 8:05pm MLB Baseball 971 Cleveland Indians/Kansas City Royals Under 8½ -120* (T House - L must Start D Duffy - L must Start)

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    I might be the luckiest SOB tonight

    I had KC as a last leg team in 5 teamer parlay, goes from sure loser to winner
    I also hedged with UNDER 3.5 runs when KC was down 2-1, so that pushes.

    I go from losing both to winning both thanks to the rain. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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    And my bet above is from 5Dimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    The latter. Not that it matters because even if they refunded it, you would just start another one with the refunded money so it's really the exact same thing.
    Lol thats not necessarily true and its not the same thing because I now have one leas team in the parlay. If I were to start another one, Id replace that canceled play. My book still says pending, is this because the game will be continued or is it because they just didnt update it yet?

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    KC backers were bailed out once by a blown Cleveland save, then again by the rain when they fell behind 4-2. Twice in one game. Not sure I've ever seen that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantingyou View Post
    From 5Dimes:

    All regular season and exhibition baseball games are considered official after 5 innings of play (4½ if the home team is winning). If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play – unless the home team scores to tie or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. When betting on baseball totals or run-lines, the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is winning).

    If you have Indians ML, then your game will be graded as a loser. I personally got hosed on this as I had Indians -1 for Live Betting and my book recognizes normal Baseball rules.
    No it is a push. 2-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    I might be the luckiest SOB tonight

    I had KC as a last leg team in 5 teamer parlay, goes from sure loser to winner
    I also hedged with UNDER 3.5 runs when KC was down 2-1, so that pushes.

    I go from losing both to winning both thanks to the rain. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
    Your under 3.5 should be graded as an loser as for betting purposed the game is 2-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    No it is a push. 2-2
    You're right LT, I met Indians -1 as I had them live -1

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    Game will be played Sept 22, so I think this will be cancelled

    Pinny still hasnt graded it

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    bet365 confirmed as per there 4.5 innings rule subject to the 8.5 innings rule cleveland moneylines pre game if not all should win

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    All regular season and exhibition baseball games are considered official after 5 innings of play (4½ if the home team is winning). If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play – unless the home team scores to tie or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. When betting on baseball totals or run-lines, the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is winning).
    see that part that says -unless the home team scores to tie in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. That right there happened in the 9th inning so how da heck can u say its a no action? That statement means cleveland wins, pay me in budd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantingyou View Post
    From 5Dimes:

    All regular season and exhibition baseball games are considered official after 5 innings of play (4½ if the home team is winning). If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play – unless the home team scores to tie or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. When betting on baseball totals or run-lines, the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is winning).

    If you have Indians ML, then your game will be graded as a loser. I personally got hosed on this as I had Indians -1 for Live Betting and my book recognizes normal Baseball rules.
    Why would CLE ML be a loser?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    Lol thats not necessarily true and its not the same thing because I now have one leas team in the parlay. If I were to start another one, Id replace that canceled play. My book still says pending, is this because the game will be continued or is it because they just didnt update it yet?
    Oh I forgot you specify the amount of teams before the start of an open parlay. But as I said "the latter", meaning play is a push and one leg of parlay has been used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    Why would CLE ML be a loser?
    I was wrong, I meant Indians -1. ML pushes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddycash View Post
    see that part that says -unless the home team scores to tie in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. That right there happened in the 9th inning so how da heck can u say its a no action? That statement means cleveland wins, pay me in budd.
    But the home team didn't tie the game or take the lead?

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    Pinny just paid out for my U8, as expected. thanks for this heads up OP, maybe this was a blessing that KC didn't get a chance to tie it up (and blowing my U8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantingyou View Post
    I was wrong, I meant Indians -1. ML pushes.
    Oh yeah, RLs are losers

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    My local book graded it as a win online. Haven't gone to the sportsbook at the hilton here in vegas to cash yet as I also had u8 with them

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    Bookmaker has graded straight bets as cancelled and live straight bets AND totals cancelled. Cannot find any rules about live betting, would love for my U7 live bet to stand, it did go 9 innings......

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddycash View Post
    see that part that says -unless the home team scores to tie in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. That right there happened in the 9th inning so how da heck can u say its a no action? That statement means cleveland wins, pay me in budd.
    You misinterpreted it, and that rule really only applies if game is called before ninth inning. For example, if team ties if takes the lead in the bottom of the eighth and game is called with team still batting in bottom of the eighth, then the current score will be the official betting score. Once the ollowing inning starts, score reverts back to score at last completed inning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluetooth3 View Post
    My local book graded it as a win online. Haven't gone to the sportsbook at the hilton here in vegas to cash yet as I also had u8 with them
    Totals for the game, never in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddycash View Post
    see that part that says -unless the home team scores to tie in the bottom half of the inning, in that case, the winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. That right there happened in the 9th inning so how da heck can u say its a no action? That statement means cleveland wins, pay me in budd.
    No because at the end of the last full inning, the score was 2-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Oh I forgot you specify the amount of teams before the start of an open parlay. But as I said "the latter", meaning play is a push and one leg of parlay has been used.
    Ok, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ch_theos View Post
    Bookmaker has graded straight bets as cancelled and live straight bets AND totals cancelled. Cannot find any rules about live betting
    Right, as I said, books have their own rules for live betting. But the regular bet gradings mentioned in the last few posts are in line with the rule as stated.

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    I hope the gambling gods are looking down at this and repay me Monday. Ha!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    Heres an interesting scenario

    I had UNDER 3.5 runs live at pinny during the middle of the 9th inning. How is that graded?
    Same interesting spot, please update when pinnacle grades their live bets

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    From Pinny:

    Baseball] [Live - MLB] [Game] Cleveland Indians vs Kansas City Royals. Your bet has been refunded. All bets taken have been refunded due to the following reason: [The game was suspended and not finished within 7 days of its start time.] . Thank you!

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