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    Correlated betting-- If an online book allows it...

    Then can they revoke any balance or winnings after the fact if they realize what you are doing?

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    if you correlate everything perfectly and keep repeating
    then probably get canned.
    but if you partially correlate and modify the strategy should be fine.

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    I do not think a ton of books do it with all sports??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I do not think a ton of books do it with all sports??
    I have a book that will allow it.. I am worried what will happen if I continue to win... Very tough to find books that allow It anymore

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    At managerial discretion, correlated plays will be voided or split into separate straight wagers with the risk amount divided equally. Plays on correlated events include: multiple selections on the same team/player in the same event, multiple selections against the same team/player in the same event, or any other combination where one event directly affects further selections in the play, including Live In-Play wagers. Players will never be given the benefit if there is any doubt regarding intentions of correlated plays and winnings will be voided. No warnings will be given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    At managerial discretion, correlated plays will be voided or split into separate straight wagers with the risk amount divided equally. Plays on correlated events include: multiple selections on the same team/player in the same event, multiple selections against the same team/player in the same event, or any other combination where one event directly affects further selections in the play, including Live In-Play wagers. Players will never be given the benefit if there is any doubt regarding intentions of correlated plays and winnings will be voided. No warnings will be given.
    So based on that, if you had a book that would accept them, you would not exploit it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    So based on that, if you had a book that would accept them, you would not exploit it?
    I would

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    I would
    Hit my first 3 today and have more later that fit my criteria... Very hesitant to put them in

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Hit my first 3 today and have more later that fit my criteria... Very hesitant to put them in
    what's the worst thing that can happen? your bets will be canceled, but I doubt that they will revoke your balance
    call them up and ask this question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    what's the worst thing that can happen? your bets will be canceled, but I doubt that they will revoke your balance
    call them up and ask this question
    Probably right... Im not sure i want to bring it to their attention.. Not sure how I would even phrase the question so that it was not suspicious

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Probably right... Im not sure i want to bring it to their attention.. Not sure how I would even phrase the question so that it was not suspicious
    don't give them your acct#...say you're a new player and before you sign up, you just want to find out what their story is on correlated betting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    At managerial discretion, correlated plays will be voided or split into separate straight wagers with the risk amount divided equally. Plays on correlated events include: multiple selections on the same team/player in the same event, multiple selections against the same team/player in the same event, or any other combination where one event directly affects further selections in the play, including Live In-Play wagers. Players will never be given the benefit if there is any doubt regarding intentions of correlated plays and winnings will be voided. No warnings will be given.
    So, what exactly is a correlated bet? Is it basically a parlay that increases odds but doesn't necessarily increase risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mink View Post
    So, what exactly is a correlated bet? Is it basically a parlay that increases odds but doesn't necessarily increase risk?
    that 2 outcomes are very likely if i hits both will

    ex alabama - 38 over 41

    if alabama covers the game very likely will go over same as taking the dog and under

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    Makes sense. So, judging by the rule posted above, do you interpret it to mean that if you are "caught" making a correlated play, your entire account will be confiscated? Does "Winnings will be voided" mean your entire account is terminated and all your money is confiscated? Just a curiosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    that 2 outcomes are very likely if i hits both will

    ex alabama - 38 over 41

    if alabama covers the game very likely will go over same as taking the dog and under
    There's a couple of books that allow you to do that. You can parlay mlb/nba/nfl/nhl ML with their respective totals at bookmaker. Not their individual team totals though, the overall total. You can't parlay with the spreads/totals though but ML and total is valuable enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR225 View Post
    There's a couple of books that allow you to do that. You can parlay mlb/nba/nfl/nhl ML with their respective totals at bookmaker. Not their individual team totals though, the overall total. You can't parlay with the spreads/totals though but ML and total is valuable enough.
    what books allow that? spread and total like in the example above? any book that allows that is going out of business quickly

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    There was a major rhubarb 6-8 years ago with a World gaming book. They went back at least six months and voided a lot of bets.

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    Depends on the book obviously. Some will pay you, some won't. I've seen one retroactively enforce a "no correlated parlays" rule and void them all One took a long ass time to catch on but they eventually did. (They paid me too!) Another was using the same software but eventually closed up shop (I don't think it was related to what I was doing, they just closed up shop, I came out ahead even though they owed me more)

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    Quote Originally Posted by inter1097 View Post
    Depends on the book obviously. Some will pay you, some won't. I've seen one retroactively enforce a "no correlated parlays" rule and void them all One took a long ass time to catch on but they eventually did. (They paid me too!) Another was using the same software but eventually closed up shop (I don't think it was related to what I was doing, they just closed up shop, I came out ahead even though they owed me more)
    Thanks for the response, however, do you believe that based on how that rule that was posted reads, that if you are "caught" placing a correlated bet, all your money will be confiscated instead of a reversal of the correlated bets? Is it customary for a book to terminate your account and take all your money because you placed a correlated bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mink View Post
    Thanks for the response, however, do you believe that based on how that rule that was posted reads, that if you are "caught" placing a correlated bet, all your money will be confiscated instead of a reversal of the correlated bets? Is it customary for a book to terminate your account and take all your money because you placed a correlated bet?
    I've never had an account terminated/money won from non-correlated bets confiscated but That doesn't mean it can't happen. Based on that rule, they would just nullify all my correlated bets.
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    Part of the rhubarb was they only voided the correlated bets that won. Very flimsy definition of what is correlated and what is not. It is the beauty of a non regulated environment.

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    Isn't acceptance of a correlated bet the book's fault, though? Why would they be so pissed about their software glitching? Isn't an easy remedy to cancel the bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mink View Post
    Isn't acceptance of a correlated bet the book's fault, though? Why would they be so pissed about their software glitching? Isn't an easy remedy to cancel the bet?
    We all agree that it is. Once they take the bet and the game starts the bet should be good. It wasn't a glitch but more or less a loophole. Players must have been taking a lot of payouts and they were bleeding money. They were not pissed so much as they had to do it to save the sportsbook because there were so many payout requests. It is amazing that it took them so long to figure it out. Why they were getting the crap beat out of them. I think they were so stupid they did not even know what a correlated parlay was.

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