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    Kluber.

    Perfect through 5.

    Guy is an absolute STUD.

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    Perfect through 6.

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    Duffy twirling a gem also. Going to tune into the last few innings of this it looks good.

    And Kluber only at 70 pitches.

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    Tyson Ross dealing too.
    9 K's in the fourth

    Garza 1 hitting the Mets in the sixth.

    I don't give a shit that chicks dig the long ball, pitching duels get me hot.
    If you don't like good pitching, you just don't like baseball.
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    I should really learn more about the pitchers in baseball. No idea who this kluber guy was but it sounds like everyone else did.

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    I'm the ultimate jinx for these things as soon as I tune in there's a hit practically straight away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    I should really learn more about the pitchers in baseball. No idea who this kluber guy was but it sounds like everyone else did.
    Do it like this.
    Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
    First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
    That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
    (Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)

    Here's an example.
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...39;&extended=0

    You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
    Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
    WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
    You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
    34 starts.
    1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.

    I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.

    Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
    WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
    ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.

    Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.

    The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...39;&extended=0
    (However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
    Last edited by stevenash; 07-24-14 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do it like this.
    Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
    First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
    That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
    (Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)

    Here's an example.
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...39;&extended=0

    You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
    Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
    WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
    You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
    34 starts.
    1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.

    I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.

    Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
    WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
    ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.

    Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.

    The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...39;&extended=0
    (However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
    Good post

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    Kluber

    IF he keeps his performance up...

    I believe could be an Cy Young this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mase of Base View Post
    I'm the ultimate jinx for these things as soon as I tune in there's a hit practically straight away.
    You effin mush. Thanks for nothin. I bet you didn't even bet the Royals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do it like this.
    Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
    First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
    That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
    (Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)

    Here's an example.
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#elem=%5Bobject+Object%5D&tab_level=child&click_text=Sortable+Player+pitching&game_type='R'&season=2014&season_type=ANY&league_code='MLB'&sectionType=sp&statType=pitching&page=1&ts=1406253404199&sortColumn=ip&sortOrder='desc'&extended=0

    You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
    Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
    WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
    You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
    34 starts.
    1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.

    I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.

    Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
    WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
    ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.

    Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.

    The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...39;&extended=0
    (However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
    Kluber pitches in a lefty friendly park as well.

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    Finally let one up...thoughy my Royals bet was done for

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    Cleveland will at least tie it the top of the 9th - and may end up winning

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Shirts View Post
    Cleveland will at least tie it the top of the 9th - and may end up winning
    Nah

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    tie game baby!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Shirts View Post
    Cleveland will at least tie it the top of the 9th - and may end up winning
    good read with the first 1/2 of your analysis

    1st and 2nd now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    Nah
    U were saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbrhedge View Post
    good read with the first 1/2 of your analysis
    Haha very true. Game on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomerbust View Post
    Kluber pitches in a lefty friendly park as well.
    Well yeah, some of why he has success, you have to factor in ball park factors in handicapping, like Phil Hughes, shit stain in Yankee stadium, put him in Target, he's Cy Young. Tyson Ross can pitch anyplace, but Petco doesn't hurt his cause.

    Know this, there is a new wave of a dozen starters that are electrifying.

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    Free baseball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Tyson Ross dealing too.
    9 K's in the fourth

    Garza 1 hitting the Mets in the sixth.

    I don't give a shit that chicks dig the long ball, pitching duels get me hot.
    If you don't like good pitching, you just don't like baseball.
    ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Well yeah, some of why he has success, you have to factor in ball park factors in handicapping, like Phil Hughes, shit stain in Yankee stadium, put him in Target, he's Cy Young. Tyson Ross can pitch anyplace, but Petco doesn't hurt his cause.

    Know this, there is a new wave of a dozen starters that are electrifying.
    Uhhh... Kluber is not a southie, but progressive does have home run tendencies to right which makes him better than the stats show.

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    whaaat...theee...fuuuukkk
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomerbust View Post
    Uhhh... Kluber is not a southie, but progressive does have home run tendencies to right which makes him better than the stats show.
    My point was about left hitters

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do it like this.
    Go to any sports site that has baseball statistics.
    First sort by number of games started, or innings pitched.
    That'll tell you who your every pticher that makes regular starts.
    (Kershaw is in the middle because he missed a month at the start of the season.)

    Here's an example.
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#elem=%5Bobject+Object%5D&ta b_level=child&click_text=Sortable+Player +pitching&game_type='R'&season=2014&seas on_type=ANY&league_code='MLB'&sectionTyp e=sp&statType=pitching&page=1&ts=1406253 404199&sortColumn=ip&sortOrder='desc'&ex tended=0

    You can tell if a starter is a stud if his strike total is equal to or greater than the number of innings pitched. (or very close to)
    Check out the WH/IP also, 1.1 or less = terrific.
    WH/IP is a metric that measures how many baserunners minus errors a pitcher allows an innimg.
    You want that number 1 or less, that's rare for a guy who makes
    34 starts.
    1.1 is trememdous, 1.4 or so is league average.

    I look for WH/IP first, or even OPS, but the real measure is how many baserunners a starting pitcher does not allow.

    Kluber has a K ratio of 152K/140 IP or about 9.3 or so per nine - outstanding.
    WH/IP is solid, not elite, but solid at 1.18
    ERA 2.95, rock solid, not elite, but solid.

    Cluber is a stud, not elite, but he is knocking on elite's door.

    The first five here are elite. (You want to argue Cueto is not elite yet, make a good case, I might listen)
    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...39;&extended=0
    (However, Sale and Kershaw have missed six starts, but still are elite.
    I seriously appreciate that. Going to incorporate that tomorrow.

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