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    I can't really be the only one who thinks this about James

    Heat were beatdown in the finals. Your team as constructed was fukkin wrecked and could only get worse going forward. Instead of sticking it out to rebuild the team he bolts to the best possible scenario. The fact it happens to be Cleveland should matter zero, if this were the Cavs team from 10-11 there is NO way he'd be going back. Now everyone says it's 100% because he loves the city and all this whore shit. Now I'm a Houston fan like most know so him leaving gives us Bosh, I'm happy. But what in the hell is with all this love now ?
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    I think family had a lot to do with it.

    Legacy also, if he can bring a championship to Cleveland.

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    I don't understand why folks are so high on him. He is good but not great. Not even close. Best in the game today (debate able) doesn't make you great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    I don't understand why folks are so high on him. He is good but not great. Not even close. Best in the game today (debate able) doesn't make you great.
    C'mon man.

    I don't even like the guy but being the best in the world kinda makes you great IMO.
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    What legacy Boeing? That he was a role player on multiple championship teams. John Paxson was too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    Heat were beatdown in the finals. Your team as constructed was fukkin wrecked and could only get worse going forward. Instead of sticking it out to rebuild the team he bolts to the best possible scenario. The fact it happens to be Cleveland should matter zero, if this were the Cavs team from 10-11 there is NO way he'd be going back. Now everyone says it's 100% because he loves the city and all this whore shit. Now I'm a Houston fan like most know so him leaving gives us Bosh, I'm happy. But what in the hell is with all this love now ?
    Yeah, I htink he knows Wade is broken goods. Won't say it to his face, but he knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    What legacy Boeing? That he was a role player on multiple championship teams. John Paxson was too.

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    If they won the title this year, I don't think he'd be going back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    If they won the title this year, I don't think he'd be going back home.
    Or even a hard fought loss in 7 or even 6. This, to me, was 100% no doubt a basketball move. He was never going out West where the real teams play, he was sticking to the East. His options were what? Staying with his aging team that wouldn't compete like they had before and he knows it, or go to the young team that was on the rise and much easier to make it back to the Finals?

    "I wasn't leaving Miami for anywhere but Cleveland, after a few years it felt right" Yeah, after a few years of high draft picks to run back to. Unreal.

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    Hippo,

    are you taking down your lebron poster from your bedroom wall?

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    hippos right if this roster was a joke or had no assets he wouldnt be going back, but it doesnt hurt for pr reasons either, its definitely a bit of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    Hippo,

    are you taking down your lebron poster from your bedroom wall?
    Just throwing away my life-size James pillow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    Just throwing away my life-size James pillow.


    It was probably a good time to do it anyhow.

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    Cleveland could not make the playoffs with jack and deng who are both gone they are not the favorites and not even a top 10 team unless they add more guys

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    They're getting Love now. James knew this before making his decision.

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    Love and irving are not defenders also lebron won't be able to play the 4 as much because they will have varejeao love and lebron as 3 of their 4 best players obviously love and irving are good but don't think this combo is as good of a fit.

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    Better than any other East team going into this season. James was never going out West, he needed the easiest path back to the Finals to give himself another chance at a ring. Cleveland was the easiest route.

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    It's only because it's Lebron.How easily you forget the circus Dwight Howard put on TWICE.Difference being Lebron is the real deal while Dwight is a self proclaimed superman.

    Or what about Carmelo?Isn't he doing the same thing this year after doing it a few years ago by leaving Denver to pursue championships in NY.Problem there is Amare became a bum once he got paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    I don't understand why folks are so high on him. He is good but not great. Not even close. Best in the game today (debate able) doesn't make you great.

    maybe cause he shoots 60% from the field with the best defenders in the world trying to stop him

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    Long live the King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    I think family had a lot to do with it.

    Legacy also, if he can bring a championship to Cleveland.
    If you look back to stuff Savannah said and posted, I'd bet she had 92% to do with it. Even with his side pieces, once she got pregnant again the ball was in her court. She never wanted to be in Miami at all and he never felt at home there so it wasn't as hard of a sell or shock for him to go back to Cleveland as some are making it out to be. The ring that matters in that relationship is the one on HER finger, not his.

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    If melo goes to the bulls, cleveland wont even be the best team in their division. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    If melo goes to the bulls, cleveland wont even be the best team in their division. Simple.
    Stick to the sport where half the games go 0-0 pal. Melo is a cancer.

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    Smoke a choad: youre a moron.
    Try to tell me you know more about that sport than me then get buried and NOW try to tell me to stick to that sport.
    How about you stick to not contributing a damn thing to this forum cause youre not intelligent enough to know a damn thing?

    Melo joins chicago, he learns to WIN.
    The bulls have the best coach in the league and an addictive playing style. Dont ever speak to me like you know shit, you rooster smoker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Smoke a choad: youre a moron.
    Try to tell me you know more about that sport than me then get buried and NOW try to tell me to stick to that sport.
    How about you stick to not contributing a damn thing to this forum cause youre not intelligent enough to know a damn thing?

    Melo joins chicago, he learns to WIN.
    The bulls have the best coach in the league and an addictive playing style. Dont ever speak to me like you know shit, you rooster smoker.
    Lmao why so hostile pal it's just a betting forum. Get a grip.

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    you must not have read his letter.

    if Lebron James is not one of your favorite athletes you need to re-evaluate.

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    lebron is the best basketball player. bosh rode his coattails to championship rings and a max contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    lebron is the best basketball player. bosh rode his coattails to championship rings and a max contract.

    they both were the stars in their teams and both failed to lead them to a ring, they needed each other to get that ring so as far as im concerned james is not a better player than bosh, and bosh did bail james out in many games in the finals, without bosh james would have zero rings

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    Yep, he knows Miami is toast and sees Kyrie and Wiggins in Cleveland plus a team filled with young guys who haven't scratched the surface of their potential yet.

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    was a perfect storm for lebron.. couldn't have worked out any better for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    If you look back to stuff Savannah said and posted, I'd bet she had 92% to do with it. Even with his side pieces, once she got pregnant again the ball was in her court. She never wanted to be in Miami at all and he never felt at home there so it wasn't as hard of a sell or shock for him to go back to Cleveland as some are making it out to be. The ring that matters in that relationship is the one on HER finger, not his.
    Bit high of a number there. I don't think basketball players care as much as your everyday husband what their wives want...they don't have to really. Maybe LeBron is different, but I think he does what is best for him at all times.

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    Shari is so right on the money with this it is unbelievable.

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    LeBron has never hidden his love for that dump Ohio. Still lives there part of the year, has his camp there, and goes back regularly. He has always seemed like a small town kid at heart to me so not completely shocked. I take him for his word and understand it's home and he was at a major crossroads in life right now. I understand some Heat fans might be butthurt but that's the way things go in business sometimes.

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    Men he lives in Cleveland half of the year

    Of course he missed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Love and irving are not defenders also lebron won't be able to play the 4 as much because they will have varejeao love and lebron as 3 of their 4 best players obviously love and irving are good but don't think this combo is as good of a fit.
    Astute point. Irving is nothing short of horrific defensively, and Love is slow. Will be interesting to see how this develops.

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