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    New claim that ex-memphis player was paid as part of Calipari scheme

    Now here’s one that Kentucky fans will automatically dismiss while everyone else automatically accepts it.

    The uncle/guardian of former Memphis basketball player Pierre Henderson-Niles has sent a note to the NCAA alleging that his nephew was paid as part of a pay-for-play system run by then-Tiger coach John Calipari and his assistant Derek Kellogg. Calipari is, of course, the head coach at Kentucky while Kellogg is now the head man at UMass.

    Before all the non-UK fans rejoice too much, file away the fact that the uncle — Stephen Saine — is a convicted drug dealer who is reportedly trying to publish a book about the big turnaround he’s made in his life. Saine is now a pastor. Also know that current Memphis coach Josh Pastner inherited Henderson-Niles for one season and he said last week that he had no knowledge of the allegations nor did he believe them. Henderson-Niles told The Memphis Commercial Appeal this weekend that he has “no involvement” in the allegations made by his uncle.

    OK. Now on with the allegations themselves.
    According to LocalMemphis.com, the memo sent by Saine to the NCAA says the following:

    “I share this not to bring dishonor to the University of Memphis or the men’s basketball program, but to: 1) do the right thing and 2) help make sure what happened then is no longer prevalent not only at the UofM but in college athletics in general.

    When Jartavious Pierre Henderson-Niles played basketball at the UofM he did so with a pay-for-play arrangement with the UofM men’s basketball coaching staff.


    I received regular payments from one of John Calipari’s assistant coaches (Derek Kellogg) starting Pierre’s senior year of high school through his junior year at the University of Memphis.

    This is an issue I would have addressed with the UofM and members of their former coaching staff but as you can imagine, I felt it would have falled on deaf ears.”

    Saine provided more details to the NCAA during a 45-minute interview session.

    Could the accusations of a man once called “Pink Chevy” be true? You bet. And you can also bet that UK officials have already spoken with Calipari and have prepared a response for if/when the NCAA comes a’calling.


    You can also be certain that the NCAA will — at some level — investigate this issue. We’re not big on conspiracy theories around here, but there’s no doubt the NCAA has for years viewed Calipari as its great white whale. They keep hitting his ex-programs, but they can’t pin a thing on him.


    You might recall that in 2011 the NCAA even pooh-poohed a UK celebration of its coach’s 500th victory because some of his wins had been vacated.Unfortunately for the NCAA, John Clay of The Lexington Herald-Leader — one of the SEC’s best writers, by the way — did a little research of his own and found that the NCAA hadn’t said a peep about other schools’ listing their coaches’ vacated wins. Hmmm.


    So it’s a guarantee the NCAA will follow-up on this one. Post-Miami and with the O’Bannon case and a major autonomy vote on its current plate the NCAA might not have the same bloodlust for Calipari that it once had, but allegations like these require some amount of due diligence. Even if they’re coming from a convicted drug dealer named Pink Chevy who’s looking for a book deal.


    As for those of us at MrSEC.com, we’ll reserve judgement. It’s unusual for someone to say, “I took money.” More often it’s someone else saying, “He took money.” So that part is intriguing. But there are so many question marks surrounding the man who’s suddenly decided to come clean that it’s impossible to accept his tale wholeheartedly.

    Unless, of course, you’re a fan of any of the 13 SEC schools not named Kentucky.


    http://www.localmemphis.com/story/d/story/pierre-henderson-niles-in-middle-of-pay-for-play-a/29375/kP58VWv2rkexWQxp2rl4Pw

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    Calipari is as dirty as it gets

    Funny how Kentucky fans called him a cheater and liar and all of that when he was at Memphis and change their tune 180 degrees once he goes to UK

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    Too much snitching.....the game is to be sold, not to be told!

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    some truth and some lies

    dismiss it

    part of the game

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    college basketballs a joke anyway.

    one and dones ruined the game.

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    Got caught at UMass Got caught at Memphis and Of course he is doing the same thing at Kent ...Shocker???? Ummmm no

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    Not all UK fans should be categorized together. We do love basketball and we love winning, just as anyone does, however, we don't want to cheat, the game isn't about that. I always love the fact that someone wants to 'do the right thing' 10 years after the fact but NONE of them ever mention anything about returning the money or any items that they received. As far as I'm concerned, any program that is cheating should be punished, including UK. It just amazes me how many programs get caught, like North Carolina for cheating, or Duke for rape, etc....but are never severely punished by the NCAA. When UK was caught in the late 80's, they received 3 years of sanctions with no NCAA tournament, lost scholarships, the whole deal. And, they rebuilt the program. Since that punishment, the NCAA never punishes anyone very severely. University of Miami football, what a laugher of a punishment. Penn State was punished but only because of the severity of crimes being committed. There is no consistency and college basketball along with all other sports are a joke. Maybe if the NBA would change their rules not to draft anyone until after 4 years of college, then we would see quality players and teams all through the league like it used to be. I'm an avid UK fan...but if people are cheating in some way...then they should be penalized. Not the kids, the person doing the cheating.

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    Whether THIS story is true or not, Calipenis should be out of college sports just cuz of previous dirty crap he's done. Arrogant puke. Taking advantage of stupid black ghetto boys and beat the system year after year enriching yourself has to have some kinda special karma kick back. I can wait till that day comes.

    College sports. Nothing new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miamiken View Post
    Not all UK fans should be categorized together. We do love basketball and we love winning, just as anyone does, however, we don't want to cheat, the game isn't about that. I always love the fact that someone wants to 'do the right thing' 10 years after the fact but NONE of them ever mention anything about returning the money or any items that they received. As far as I'm concerned, any program that is cheating should be punished, including UK. It just amazes me how many programs get caught, like North Carolina for cheating, or Duke for rape, etc....but are never severely punished by the NCAA. When UK was caught in the late 80's, they received 3 years of sanctions with no NCAA tournament, lost scholarships, the whole deal. And, they rebuilt the program. Since that punishment, the NCAA never punishes anyone very severely. University of Miami football, what a laugher of a punishment. Penn State was punished but only because of the severity of crimes being committed. There is no consistency and college basketball along with all other sports are a joke. Maybe if the NBA would change their rules not to draft anyone until after 4 years of college, then we would see quality players and teams all through the league like it used to be. I'm an avid UK fan...but if people are cheating in some way...then they should be penalized. Not the kids, the person doing the cheating.
    ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    ????
    Was thinking the same thing what did ppl want duke players to do?

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    Here is the way to stop it....Pay the friggin athletes


    Makes no sense that the coaches are making multi millions while the players are eating oodles of noodles

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    College athletes have been paid under the table for years. Every time you see someone driving a $60,000 car in college he didn't buy it by working part time at McDonald's. When will people learn?

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    Shocking.

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    ill be the first to say i dont give a shit if kids are paid or not... having said that, there is no honor trying to buy championships... the yankees try to do it every year and cant understand why people, outside of ny, hate them and laugh when they fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    Now here’s one that Kentucky fans will automatically dismiss while everyone else automatically accepts it.



    http://www.localmemphis.com/story/d/story/pierre-henderson-niles-in-middle-of-pay-for-play-a/29375/kP58VWv2rkexWQxp2rl4Pw


    What? college players are being paid?!.... I bet next you're going to tell me they aren't going to classes or doing their assignments either. Preposterous!!

    I forget, were you the one who made the preseason thread about UK being number 1 and all the UK fans saying they were fab 5 even though no UK fans were saying that, only idiot haters who watched too mush ESPN were saying that then bumping the thread throughout the year as they lost and then they made it to the championship game... was that you?

    Let's hope not, cause whoever that was looked like a complete jackass along with every other UK hater last year. It was great as a UK fan and basketball fan, it was obvious how talented the team was even when they lost so was not surprised at all to see them in the final game.
    Last edited by brooks85; 06-27-14 at 05:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    ill be the first to say i dont give a shit if kids are paid or not... having said that, there is no honor trying to buy championships... the yankees try to do it every year and cant understand why people, outside of ny, hate them and laugh when they fail.
    and then cry like lil babies when it actually works. Dumb people sure are funny huh?

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    Mixed the threads up, but it was you tho.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ndefeated.html

    "More that likely the Harrison Twins cost you this season, they will cost you a game or two alone."


    how embarrassing for you.


    And lets not forget this idiot too

    Tpowell

    "LMAO, outside of Randle and maybe Young, that team wouldn't make an NIT"

    yeah good call buddy!

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    Kentucky fans proud of paying players. Unreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post


    Kentucky fans proud of paying players. Unreal


    The idea of free market capitalism must make you sick to your stomach then.

    O wait that's right, these kids are going to school for education, how could I forget.

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    If I was a black kid being recruited and wasn't one of the top 5-10 rated athletes in the country at the time, you can bet your ass I'd be looking to get paid to play somewhere than just to play and go to school.
    We are talking about kids that can barely spell their names and aren't gonna do much else anyways.
    Get the money while you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    The idea of free market capitalism must make you sick to your stomach then.

    O wait that's right, these kids are going to school for education, how could I forget.
    It's a bit different when only certain schools are doing it. I'm all for paying them really, just get it over with and make it legal.

    Syracuse has had their fair share of shady business anyway. Not proud of it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    It's a bit different when only certain schools are doing it. I'm all for paying them really, just get it over with and make it legal.

    Syracuse has had their fair share of shady business anyway. Not proud of it though.


    Welcome to life. The cream rises to the top. Very good lesson to learn and most importantly accept as a reality. Or you can be one of the occupy wall street people and say how its not fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    and then cry like lil babies when it actually works. Dumb people sure are funny huh?
    lolz...No... 5 championships since 1978 ... with their payroll, year after year, it takes a fukking yankeee homer to think thats acceptable... its laughable

    sorry, this got offtrack... cal cheats and always has... no new news here

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    Welcome to life. The cream rises to the top. Very good lesson to learn and most importantly, accept as a reality. Or you can be one of the occupy wall street people and say how its not fair.
    I guess, just wouldn't call it a free market.

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    So if one school offers a kid 5000 to play per game lets say and another school offers him 10000, does he not have a choice on which school to pick?

    sure sounds like a free market to me. Last I check no one is forced to sign for a college they don't want to play for.

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    Far from liberal though, that's Chalky's area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    lolz...No... 5 championships since 1978 ... with their payroll, year after year, it takes a fukking yankeee homer to think thats acceptable... its laughable

    sorry, this got offtrack... cal cheats and always has... no new news here
    I hate baseball but paying for championships transcends baseball and goes into every major sport and guess what?

    When the team wins, everyone whines about how they paid for their championship like little kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    So if one school offers a kid 5000 to play per game lets say and another school offers him 10000, does he not have a choice on which school to pick?

    sure sounds like a free market to me. Last I check no one is forced to sign for a college they don't want to play for.
    Only a handful of teams have the ability to do that and mainly Kentucky. Don't see it that way but not argue about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    Mixed the threads up, but it was you tho.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ndefeated.html

    "More that likely the Harrison Twins cost you this season, they will cost you a game or two alone."


    how embarrassing for you.


    And lets not forget this idiot too

    Tpowell

    "LMAO, outside of Randle and maybe Young, that team wouldn't make an NIT"

    yeah good call buddy!

    without Randle, UK wouldn't have made the NIT. That is a FACT, IDIOT

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    Calicheat paying players still? No way!

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