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    SBR interviews NJ State Senator Lesniak on Sports Betting!

    Thanks to State Senator Lesniak for joining us to discuss NJ's pursuit of sports betting!

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    There so much legalities to this that it will never ever happen

    New Jersey politicians are all talk

    There will be scared rabbits when her threatened with fines from the federal government

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    he is betting the NYG the guy is a mush

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    This Senator s a real dummy

    lol......"Justice Dpt going to turn their heads if NJ goes ahead and starts taking bets"

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    Great interview.

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    Excellent interview

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    This Senator s a real dummy

    lol......"Justice Dpt going to turn their heads if NJ goes ahead and starts taking bets"
    Goldie.. I think you're missing the point.

    So long as they do not regulate or attempt to license it...... booking a bet at Monmouth Park does NOT break the federal law.

    Nothing.

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    Wonder how they plan on writing these bets, processing them etc. No company is going to get involved with this as long as it's legality is undecided.

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    Trident hit it on the head everyone's going to stay far far away from this

    The whole country would start taking bets then

    You see how fast the NFL and college football pressures New Jersey lawmakers

    This is a pipe dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Trident hit it on the head everyone's going to stay far far away from this

    The whole country would start taking bets then

    You see how fast the NFL and college football pressures New Jersey lawmakers

    This is a pipe dream
    What the fuk are you talking about? Pressuring NJ lawmakers?

    NJ Lawmakers already pushed through a bill and NJ voters ratified sports betting.

    And now, the same NJ lawmakers you are yapping about are passing another bill allowing Monmouth Park to accept unregulated bets.

    Another Gold swing and miss.

    William Hill has been at Monmouth Park now for the last 2 weeks running their software.

    If you live in Jersey, you would have to live in a fuking cave to have missed this. WH is already signed and delivered for Monmouth Park.

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    not going to happen

    so the NFL and NCAA and VEGAS just going to rollover??

    Son it does not work that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post

    William Hill has been at Monmouth Park now for the last 2 weeks running their software.
    Running a free contest or what ever they are doing is nothing compared to taking wagers.

    You really think Nevada won't have nothing to say about William Hill being involved.

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    This is a pure joke

    It was a great report from Natalie though

    NJ living in a dream world

    We are so stupid and the cost is $20 million in fines to take wagers

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    Nice job Natalie.

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    holla back boys

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    should have asked him about Revel going bankrupt.

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    Great job Natalie, impressive guest list you guys have on here at times.

    JJ its world cup time. Look at the stats on sports wagering on nfl,mlb,nhl and college basketball and college football compared to soccer wagering lol. Sports wagering is a joke in Vegas today.

    Look at the world cup and the billions wagered compared to all these American sports. The Europeans and Asian sportsbooks sponsor all types of sports even teams like bwin and real madrid,mansion and tottenham, boylesports and sunderland, Bwin sponsors races and tons of things, you see sportsbook advertising everywhere at sporting events in europe and asia.The nfl and nba can't stop the world once soccer gambling continues to rise in the states. Soccer is where the real gambling takes place




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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post
    What the fuk are you talking about? Pressuring NJ lawmakers?

    NJ Lawmakers already pushed through a bill and NJ voters ratified sports betting.

    And now, the same NJ lawmakers you are yapping about are passing another bill allowing Monmouth Park to accept unregulated bets.

    Another Gold swing and miss.

    William Hill has been at Monmouth Park now for the last 2 weeks running their software.

    If you live in Jersey, you would have to live in a fuking cave to have missed this. WH is already signed and delivered for Monmouth Park.
    WH

    Prepared to be juiced the fugg out if this is really the case...

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    Also it will not even do well if ever passed New Jersey's a dead gambling state now.

    Everything is run wrong here including racing and casinos

    It would not even be 1/1000 of Las Vegas set up

    Also state run it'll be crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Also it will not even do well if ever passed New Jersey's a dead gambling state now.

    Everything is run wrong here including racing and casinos

    It would not even be 1/1000 of Las Vegas set up

    Also state run it'll be crap


    Yeah, sports betting will do NOTHING for Jersey.

    Try harder summer Gold. Try harder.

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    Wait and see when Feds threaten operators

    They will be scared shit to take a bet

    Nobody beats Feds Sammy

    Your in a dream world

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Wait and see when Feds threaten operators

    They will be scared shit to take a bet

    Nobody beats Feds Sammy

    Your in a dream world
    Really? Care to explain why the Feds did nothing when Jersey started online gambling?

    Remember... Jersey wants this fight, or they wouldn't be going through all this trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post

    Care to explain why the Feds did nothing when Jersey started online gambling?
    Because there is no federal law against gambling online unless it is on sports, wire act makes no mention of playing in a online casino or poker room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Because there is no federal law against gambling online unless it is on sports, wire act makes no mention of playing in a online casino or poker room.
    Exactly.

    And PAPSA fails to include non-regulated, or unlicensed sports wagering.

    That is why Jersey will do it.

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    Whatever JJ says go the other way...

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    So how come there are not sportsbooks all over usa now??

    This is not as easy as it looks and maybe if NJ does it Feds pass a new law to attack it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    So how come there are not sportsbooks all over usa now??

    This is not as easy as it looks and maybe if NJ does it Feds pass a new law to attack it
    Are you really this silly? Or just pretending?

    Well, for one....... no other state legislature tried to make it state law. New Jersey is the only state to even attempt that......and only a few have tried to pass online wagering...and those that have, the Feds have not tried to stop them.

    Secondly, take a state like California...they have gone on record as saying they are waiting to see what happens in New Jersey before they do anything. These states are sitting on the sidelines, letting Jersey fight the fight and then just following them if they win. No risk for them.

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    Sammy I will give you 200 points if there is straight sports betting in fall on college and pro sports

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    It's a great interview and it could get into the Surpreme Court.

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    If it goes to Supreme Court could be held up for years

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    New Jersey would like to have sports betting parlors like this one in Dover, Del. (Associated Press file photo)

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    TRENTON — The U.S. Supreme Court today spurned New Jersey's long effort to legalize sports betting, handing another defeat to Gov. Chris Christie and lawmakers who view it as a way to revive Atlantic City and the state's ailing racetracks.
    After being rejected twice in federal court, the state appealed to the nation's highest court in February in a last-ditch effort to overturn a 22-year-old federal law preventing New Jersey from permitting state-sanctioned sports betting at casinos and horse-racing tracks.
    But the justices today declined to hear the case, allowing the lower court rulings to stand.
    Christie said he was disappointed but suggested the state will now give up its two-year battle.
    "It's always a long shot to get certiorati from United State Supreme Court," the Republican governor said before playing in a charity softball game at Yankee Stadium this morning. "That's the way it goes. They said no, so we have to move on."
    But two leading Democratic lawmakers said they'll continue to fight. State Sen. Raymond Lesniak (D-Union), who has led the legalization effort, introduced a bill today to sidestep the issue by repealing old state laws prohibiting sports betting at casinos and horse tracks and allowing private companies to have sports betting operations without state regulation.
    Lesniak said he hopes to pass the bill soon so Monmouth Park in Oceanport can begin accepting bets by September, in time for the start of the NFL season.
    "I expect that the U.S. Justice Department will refrain from intervening, as they have with Colorado and Washington when those states legalized marijuana," he said. "I plan on placing my first bet at Monmouth Racetrack on Sept. 8 for the Giants to beat the spread against the Lions on 'Monday Night Football.'"
    The Justice Department did not return a message seeking comment.
    State Senate President Stephen Sweeney (D-Gloucester) also vowed to keep fighting, saying the "economic impact that sports wagering can have on New Jersey is far too important to simply shrug our shoulders and move on."
    "New Jersey has been held hostage by this unfair law and the national sports associations long enough," Sweeney said.
    Two of New Jersey's congressmen — U.S. Reps. Frank LoBiondo (R-2nd Dist.) and Frank Pallone (D-6th Dist.) — issued a joint statement calling on Congress to support federal legislation to legalize sports wagering in New Jersey.
    The current fight began in 2011, when New Jersey voters overwhelmingly approved amending the state constitution to allow sports betting. Lawmakers passed a law allowing sports betting and Christie signed it. Under the law, people would not have been allowed to wage bets on games involving New Jersey colleges or college games played in the state.
    State officials said they were trying not only to curb illegal sports betting and bring the state millions of dollars in tax revenue, but also help revive Atlantic City's 11 casinos and the state's horse tracks.
    But in 2012, a group of sports organizations — the National Collegiate Athletic Association, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League, and the National Hockey League — sued to block the law from taking effect, saying it would harm the integrity of their sports. The U.S. Justice Department also joined the case.
    They argued that New Jersey's law violated the 1992 Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, which Congress passed, that bars states from licensing or regulating sports betting — except for Nevada, Delaware, Montana, and Oregon, which were grandfathered under the act.
    The law — sponsored by one of New Jersey's U.S. Senators at the time, former professional basketball star Bill Bradley — gave the Garden State one year to decide whether sports betting in Atlantic City would be grandfathered in, as well. But lawmakers decided against it.
    Twenty-two years later, New Jersey officials have argued the federal law is unfair and unconstitutional because it violates states' rights.
    But a U.S. District Court ruled against the state last February. The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia upheld that ruling in September.
    The state has spent millions in taxpayer money fighting the case, including $3.1 million to outside law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher — the same firm Christie hired to conduct his office's internal investigation into the George Washington Bridge scandal.
    Lesniak said one reason to keep fighting is because Atlantic City's future depends on sports wagering.
    "This is, quite frankly, their only hope," Lesniak said. "They're going to continue to decline. We will continue to lose jobs."
    He added that he was disappointed the Supreme Court "would allow Las Vegas to be jam-packed (with bets) during the Super Bowl and Final Four weekend, while Atlantic City is a ghost town."
    But Lesniak said the U.S. Justice Department left the door open for New Jersey to offer sports betting via a private operation — and not licensed by the state.
    In legal briefs, the department said federal law "does not even obligate New Jersey to leave in place the state-law prohibitions against sports gambling that it had chosen to adopt prior to PASPA's enactment. To the contrary, New Jersey is free to repeal those prohibitions in whole or in part."
    Thus, Lesniak said his new bill would repeal state laws prohibiting sports betting that went into effect before the federal law did.
    "They invited us to do this," Lesniak said. "They said, 'We're not interfering with state's rights. Go right ahead.' It's a bizarre argument."

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    Now Christie is 100% useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dark star View Post
    Now Christie is 100% useless
    yeh he is staying away now

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    Well the US Supreme Court has declined to hear the case. SBR has published an updated report!

    Sports betting in New Jersey dealt blow by US Supreme Court

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