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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    he just beat ace ventura on sunday
    Sep 25 vs TB L 8-3 2.0 7 3 3 0 1 2 4 8 51 15 31 L(4-14) - 5.19
    Sep 18 @ TOR W 4-3 3.1 4 2 2 1 0 2 4 8 56 14 46 - - 5.07
    Sep 12 @ BAL W 6-5 3.0 3 1 1 0 0 3 2 8 50 13 52 - - 5.07
    Sep 6 vs BOS L 12-8 0.1 3 4 4 0 1 0 3 1 25 5 - - - 5.11
    Sep 2 vs CHW W 9-1 1.1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 20 5 52 - - 4.86
    Monthly Totals 10.0 18 10 10 1 2 7 13 30 202 52 -- 0-1 0 sv 9.00
    DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
    Aug 26 @ TOR L 5-2 4.2 7 5 3 0 3 3 7 11 79 24 34 L(4-13) - 4.91
    Aug 20 vs TOR W 3-2 6.0 7 2 2 0 2 6 10 8 100 26 54 - - 4.88
    Aug 15 vs LAA L 8-4 6.0 6 3 3 1 1 5 7 12 104 26 52 L(4-12) - 4.97
    Aug 10 vs DET L 9-3 4.1 7 4 4 2 0 6 1 13 99 20 39 L(4-11) - 4.99
    Aug 4 @ SD L 6-3 2.2 6 5 5 0 3 1 3 9 71 16 24 L(4-10) - 4.87
    Monthly Totals 23.2 33 19 17 3 9 21 28 53 453 112 -- 0-4 0 sv 6.46
    DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
    Jul 28 vs TB W 6-5 4.0 9 5 5 2 2 4 8 9 92 24 26 - - 4.58
    Jul 23 @ TEX W 5-4 5.2 4 3 0 0 3 1 7 13 80 24 53 - - 4.33
    Jul 13 vs MIN L 4-1 7.1 5 4 4 3 1 10 4 12 108 27 61 L(4-9) - 4.57
    Jul 8 vs KC L 5-1 4.0 4 2 2 1 0 2 6 8 62 16 48 L(4-8) - 4.55
    Jul 2 @ MIN W 7-3 7.0 6 1 1 0 2 3 8 16 114 29 62 W(4-7) - 4.55
    Monthly Totals 28.0 28 15 12 6 8 20 33 58 456 120 -- 1-2 0 sv 3.86
    DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
    Jun 27 vs TEX L 2-0 8.0 5 2 2 1 1 5 6 16 106 29 68 L(3-7) - 4.82
    Jun 19 vs LAD L 6-0 6.0 10 5 5 0 0 3 7 17 96 28 35 L(3-6) - 5.09
    Jun 12 @ OAK L 5-2 4.1 4 3 3 1 5 3 3 9 95 20 41 L(3-5) - 4.89
    Jun 6 @ SEA W 6-1 7.0 3 1 0 0 2 7 6 11 111 26 74 W(3-4) - 4.80
    Jun 1 vs BOS L 11-1 4.1 7 5 5 1 2 7 3 10 100 22 34 L(2-4) - 5.37
    Monthly Totals 29.2 29 16 15 3 10 25 25 63 508 125 -- 1-4 0 sv 4.55
    DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
    May 27 @ NYM L 2-1 7.0 4 1 1 1 0 6 8 10 101 24 71 - - 4.97
    May 21 @ BAL L 3-2 6.0 5 2 2 2 2 5 3 15 102 25 57 - - 5.51
    May 15 vs SEA L 12-2 0.2 6 7 7 1 2 0 3 5 36 10 10 L(2-3) - 5.88
    May 10 @ KC W 11-6 5.2 7 6 6 2 2 3 7 13 98 26 32 W(2-2) - 4.43
    May 4 vs OAK W 4-2 8.0 4 0 0 0 2 9 3 15 118 29 81 W(1-2) - 3.60
    Monthly Totals 27.1 26 16 16 6 8 23 24 58 455 114 -- 2-1 0 sv 5.27
    DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
    Apr 28 vs TOR W 3-2 6.0 7 2 2 0 1 9 5 11 111 26 58 - - 4.67
    Apr 23 @ TB W 4-3 7.0 6 2 2 0 2 6 5 14 109 27 61 - - 5.14
    Apr 18 vs ARI L 6-2 7.0 6 2 2 2 0 6 9 11 109 26 63 - - 6.43
    Apr 13 vs BAL L 5-3 3.0 9 5 5 3 2 0 7 10 60 19 19 L(0-2) - 10.29
    Apr 6 @ DET L 8-4 4.0 8 4 3 0 0 4 5 12 87 21 36 L(0-1) - 6.75
    Monthly Totals 27.0 36 15 14 5 5 25 31 58 476 119 -- 0-2 0 sv 4.67
    IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF AGS W-L S-BS-H ERA
    Totals 145.2 170 91 84 24 42 121 154 320 2550 642 47 4-14 0-0-0 5.19


    DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
    Apr 20 @ KC W 8-3 6.0 9 3 3 1 1 3 7 16 96 27 44 W(1-1) - 6.43
    Apr 15 vs TOR L 9-3 5.0 8 4 4 0 1 7 8 7 87 23 41 L(0-1) - 7.20
    Apr 9 vs OAK L 7-4 5.0 5 4 4 0 3 3 6 10 104 22 41 - - 7.20
    Apr 3 @ CHW W 10-9 5.0 7 4 4 2 1 7 4 11 97 24 43 - - 7.20
    Monthly Totals 21.0 29 15 15 3 6 20 25 44 384 96 -- 1-1 0 sv 6.43
    IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF AGS W-L S-BS-H ERA
    Totals 21.0 29 15 15 3 6 20 25 44 384 96 42 1-1 0-0-0 6.43


    this is last year and this year .. the guy fukkin sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    phil fukking hughes
    bingo we have a winner

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    Mike Pelfrey pitching tonight against a red hot Tampa team.

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    Ivan Nova

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Ivan Nova
    nova sometimes get run support so its hard to fade this guy lol

    unlike phil hughes where run support sometimes doesnt even matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    nova sometimes get run support so its hard to fade this guy lol

    unlike phil hughes where run support sometimes doesnt even matter
    That's just it, Nova needs run support to get wins, his numbers are actually worse than Pelfrey's

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    That's just it, Nova needs run support to get wins, his numbers are actually worse than Pelfrey's
    i know but if you want to fade its hard to fade nova .. he can give up 5 runs in 5 innings and get a win lol

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    Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe blanton, hands down......

    Or my boy carlos carrasco.

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    people posting pitchers they probably just a lost a bet on, Pelfrey Dickey, are bad but not as bad as Joe Blow Blanton or Carrasco. I am Cleveland all the way too.

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    That's better than posting a pitcher who isn't even in the majors.

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    will Joe Blanton get to pitch in MLB again ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melda View Post
    Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe blanton, hands down......

    Or my boy carlos carrasco.
    Blanton retired 10 days ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyburrito View Post
    Blanton retired 10 days ago
    To do what? Becoming a professional hot-dog eater?

    My vote goes to both Hughes and Pelfrey. Both Twins. Definition of insanity, expecting something different from these jagoffs and trotting them out there every fifth day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    To do what? Becoming a professional hot-dog eater?

    My vote goes to both Hughes and Pelfrey. Both Twins. Definition of insanity, expecting something different from these jagoffs and trotting them out there every fifth day.
    Kind of sickening to know he's made north of $30,000,000 over the past 5 years. He can have all the hot dogs he damn well wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    That's better than posting a pitcher who isn't even in the majors.

    sorry i had my joe blanton updates turned off.

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    hard to argue against Mike Pelfrey right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    hard to argue against Mike Pelfrey right now
    True. That Dodgers line-up is sick when they can have Crawford, Kemp, Eithier, Puig in the line-up at the same time.

    Phil Hughes on the other hand has won his last 2 starts i believe.

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    LOL @ anyone who said Phil Hughes.

    He's been amazing for the Twins. Just needed to get out of Yankee stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMNoney View Post
    LOL @ anyone who said Phil Hughes.

    He's been amazing for the Twins. Just needed to get out of Yankee stadium.
    for some reason people hate phil hughes.. not sure why i think it has something to do with his days as a Yankee.

    McAlister for the Indians might currently be the worst pitcher.

    Honorable mention to Doubront, Peacock, and Colby Lewis.

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    Wandy rodriguez and Kevin correia

    Worst pitcher for tomorrow:Edinson volquez and an honourable mention to Wade Miley.

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    Wei Chung-wang for the brewers


    7.2 innings pitched
    19 hits
    15 earned runs
    5 home runs
    3.13 whip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Wei Chung-wang for the brewers


    7.2 innings pitched
    19 hits
    15 earned runs
    5 home runs
    3.13 whip
    I've watched that dude pitch a few times -- he'd be better off underhand lob-tossing the ball to home plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melda View Post
    people posting pitchers they probably just a lost a bet on, Pelfrey Dickey, are bad but not as bad as Joe Blow Blanton or Carrasco. I am Cleveland all the way too.
    Blanton used to b ok. Won rings as starter with philly

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    Ehhhh this list is kinda funny I don't have a problem with to many of these pitchers. I mean morales, vogelsong, Jimenez , arroyo, and Miley are being listed in this equation. I understand they arnt superstars but their still quality pitchers

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    If you're going solely off their performance thus far this season, I'd have to give Paul Maholm my vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Wei Chung-wang for the brewers


    7.2 innings pitched
    19 hits
    15 earned runs
    5 home runs
    3.13 whip
    oops just say it was for starting pitchers

    kid is a rule V draft pick that only pitched 47 career milb innings all in the gulf coast low low short season A ball

    brewers trying to hide him all year, but they will have to make some hard decisions soon I think

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    Freddy Garcia's last year (2012 i think) it was almost unfair fading him

    free money every start

    who is the old washed up guey getting his last go around this year?

    nice thread Creature

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    the problem is even after a few bad starts these guys get removed from the rotation unless they have a big contract..

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    Clay Bucholtz is bad right now. Not the worst, but he's pretty bad. Won't be surprised if he's hiding an injury.

    Correia has the worst ERA among eligible pitchers. If we're debating fringe starters we can be here all day

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyburrito View Post
    Blanton retired 10 days ago
    Man, that's actually hard to believe he retired.
    You figure there woulda been some team to offer him something.
    Hate to see him go.
    Made more money fading him than any other pitcher other than Ian Kennedy as a Yankee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    Clay Bucholtz is bad right now. Not the worst, but he's pretty bad. Won't be surprised if he's hiding an injury.

    Correia has the worst ERA among eligible pitchers. If we're debating fringe starters we can be here all day
    Yes please name your top 10 fringe starters.

    I need some fade material. Yes i know i could look at stats and records but sometimes a pitcher is better than his stats/record...

    For example Correia of the Twins just pitched a great game 2 days ago. But he was facing the worst hitting team ever in a pitcher friendly park...

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    Chris Young for Seattle and all White Sox starters not named Sale or Quintana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Yes please name your top 10 fringe starters.

    I need some fade material. Yes i know i could look at stats and records but sometimes a pitcher is better than his stats/record...

    For example Correia of the Twins just pitched a great game 2 days ago. But he was facing the worst hitting team ever in a pitcher friendly park...
    I'll give you 10 bad starters, but the lines on their games will be priced accordingly. A better idea may be looking at pitchers who have been pitching over their heads and will fall back down to Earth. Guys like Mark Buehrle, Aaron Harang, etc.

    Hector Noesi
    jonathan Pettibone
    Ricky Nolasco
    Vidal Nuno

    Zach McAllister - not one of the 10 worst, but has been awful lately
    Clay Bucholtz - ditto

    Brandon Maurer
    Mike Boslinger
    Scott Carroll
    Jacob Turner
    Paul Maholm
    Brad Peacock

    Flirting with disaster...

    John Danks
    Robbie Ross
    Franklin Morales
    Jake Arrieta
    JA Happ

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