1. 02-25-14 09:12 AM #1
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    Clowney or Johnny Football?

    Yes, their times in the 40 were impressive.

    In these days and times, the NFL Combine should time their speed leaving the strip club in their Ferrari's !!!
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  2. 02-25-14 09:14 AM #2
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    Clowney would win in that too!

    He should and will go first overall....Texans Owner is a South Carolina alum and booster
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  3. 02-25-14 09:30 AM #3
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    Manziel will be a bust, plain and simple.
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  4. 02-25-14 09:35 AM #4
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    Johnny or bust
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  5. 02-25-14 09:43 AM #5
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    Manziel

    Winner

    Clowny will be police blotter
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  6. 02-25-14 09:45 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    Johnny or bust
    Jevon Kearse, the original "Freak", was only with the Titans 4yrs. Mario Williams got shipped to Buffalo in about the same time frame.

    A decent QB will be around for 10 - 15 yrs. I would roll the dice with a QB.

    As a Fresh and Soph, I have never seen a QB slide around in the pocket the way Manziel does.
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  7. 02-25-14 09:46 AM #7
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    Manziel not even a 1st rounder, guy is all hype. He will sell seats but thats about it.
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  8. 02-25-14 10:16 AM #8
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    Selling seats amd merchandise and making team money is half the battle


    Johnny only guy in draft that can make it happen
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  9. 02-25-14 10:25 AM #9
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    Johnny is a fraud and a poor NFL Style QB. He is afraid to be hit. No QB in this draft is worth the #1 pick. Clowney is the better player.
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  10. 02-25-14 10:31 AM #10
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    Not quite sure why these Teams don't pick the local guys that would sell tickets and merchandise.

    Houston could trade down and get Manziel and a good "blue collar" defensive lineman.
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  11. 02-25-14 10:32 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Manziel will be a bust, plain and simple.
    this. He reminds me of Jimmy Clausen both physcially and personality.
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  12. 02-25-14 10:36 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    this. He reminds me of Jimmy Clausen both physcially and personality.
    One big difference is "escapability". When I watched Johnny, I was amazed at his pocket presence.
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  13. 02-25-14 10:44 AM #13
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    dont know whats the big deal with clowneys combine numbers. remember vernon gholston? another def end who ran 4.5, benched 37 reps (nearly 2x as clowney) and 41" vertical. jets drafted him 6th overall and he was out of football after 3 seasons with 0 sacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AchillesTG View Post
    One big difference is "escapability". When I watched Johnny, I was amazed at his pocket presence.
    i'll give you that. Little man is quick
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Selling seats amd merchandise and making team money is half the battle


    Johnny only guy in draft that can make it happen
    You got it pegged JJ!

    Jerry Jones and Al Davis never sacrificed their Teams for money!, LOL.
    I think Jerry bought the Cowboys for $130M and worth $2B now. 50% record since Jimmy and Jerry got drunk in a pissing match.
    The Dude knows how to make a buck!
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  16. 02-25-14 10:46 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    this. He reminds me of Jimmy Clausen both physcially and personality.
    No way. Clausen was a total deuche. manziel is atleast a winner. I would love to have him as my leader

    Physically, Manziel is way to better too. In almost every facet!
    Clausen was a bust before he got drafted.

    Manziel will go to the Browns.
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  17. 02-25-14 10:48 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    dont know whats the big deal with clowneys combine numbers. remember vernon gholston? another def end who ran 4.5, benched 37 reps (nearly 2x as clowney) and 41" vertical. jets drafted him 6th overall and he was out of football after 3 seasons with 0 sacks.
    I dont think Clowney is going to be a bust.
    He will be elite AllPro within 2-3 years if not right away.
    Teams will have to prepare for him
    Gholston was as much as a physical specimen. But defienalty not half the football prospect Clowney is
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  18. 02-25-14 12:27 PM #18
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    Clowney is the best player in the draft. Be an impact player for 10+ years.
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  19. 02-25-14 12:31 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeya2k View Post
    No way. Clausen was a total deuche. manziel is atleast a winner. I would love to have him as my leader

    Physically, Manziel is way to better too. In almost every facet!
    Clausen was a bust before he got drafted.

    Manziel will go to the Browns.
    okay i will give you that too. Good points so the kid is much better than Clausen. Clausen was 6-6 his senior year.

    I guess what reminds me of Clausen is his attitude. He is just very arrogant and comes across as though he feels entitled.
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  20. 02-25-14 12:33 PM #20
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    None ....Sammy Watkins should go number 1
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  21. 02-25-14 12:34 PM #21
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    Manziel will get eaten alive. One blind side hit stick vs Seattle and he's out for the year
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    Clowney and Watt are gonna be so sick together!
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    St. Louis Rams are exploding goo right now
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  24. 02-25-14 05:05 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    okay i will give you that too. Good points so the kid is much better than Clausen. Clausen was 6-6 his senior year.

    I guess what reminds me of Clausen is his attitude. He is just very arrogant and comes across as though he feels entitled.
    Clausen was an asshole and a half
    Hated his guts
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  25. 03-01-14 07:40 PM #25
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    Manziel similar to Doug Flutie.
    Doug Flutie wasn't a very good QB.
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/...Johnny-Manziel
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Flutie
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  26. 03-01-14 07:46 PM #26
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    Clowney SHOULD go #1, but indications are Texans are going with Bortles.
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    I'd take Derek Carr over Manziel
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  28. 03-01-14 07:52 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeya2k View Post
    No way. Clausen was a total deuche. manziel is atleast a winner. I would love to have him as my leader

    Physically, Manziel is way to better too. In almost every facet!
    Clausen was a bust before he got drafted.

    Manziel will go to the Browns.
    This.
    Clausen's hype was from his hype as a high school player; he failed at the colllege level, yet there was still hype on him that got him to the NFL.
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  29. 03-01-14 08:04 PM #29
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    Clowney is ready to go TODAY

    this should not even be a debate
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  30. 03-01-14 08:08 PM #30
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    If Clowney puts in the effort, him without a doubt over anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    If Clowney puts in the effort, him without a doubt over anyone.
    That's just it. O'Brien questions the work ethic of both Clowney and Manziel. But he loves Bortles after seeing him first hand.
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  32. 03-01-14 08:30 PM #32
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    manziel explosvie but wont last in nfl if he plays the way he does in college. isnt he and mike vick same style of player? vick seem to be injured alot this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    That's just it. O'Brien questions the work ethic of both Clowney and Manziel. But he loves Bortles after seeing him first hand.
    Absolutely. Bortles has all the physical attributes and I don't think you have to worry about his antics on or off the field. If I'm taking a QB first, it's Blake for me.
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  34. 03-01-14 09:10 PM #34
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    Clowney = talented but lazy
    Johnny= Winner plain & simple
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  35. 03-01-14 09:18 PM #35
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    Humors me to see people comparing Manziel to Clausen or Tebow.

    Neither of those guys remotely close to having the skills that Johnny has. His arm is better than both of them combined.

    Anyone who says Manziel has a weak arm either has never watched him, or is simply an idiot.
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