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    Obama raising min wage- what do you think?

    Has it been finalized?

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    Minimum wage needs to be abolished. Let the marketplace set its own wage rates.

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    Raising it in Ontario to $11...This year..

    Think that's the highest in North America. Won't change much.

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    I remember when it was $5.15

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    Affects so few people its sheer demagoguery and only fools fall for the argument. If its so important and necessary and meaningful why not raise it to $50 an hour? Just another question on the idiocracy test.
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    I think he needs approval of Congress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go Rangers View Post
    I think he needs approval of Congress
    OH wait....
    We are talking Der Führer Obama....

    Never mind

    Carry on

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    I read once they could make it $180/hour for everyone.

    Unfortunately the 1% would oppose that.

    Capitalism vs communism

    All these broke diks will never make that much an hour yet they would be opposed to it. Ironic.

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    Another step towards socialism......it's simply taking money out of the hands of the employer who wants to reward his top performing employees and giving it to those who just want to do the minimum.

    Obama is hell bent on destroying small businesses and this is just another way of distributing money to those who want hand outs......quite a few minimum wage workers are on some sort of assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarvol View Post
    Minimum wage needs to be abolished. Let the marketplace set its own wage rates.
    Raising the minimum wage gives incentives to those who are less skilled so that they now get more money for unskilled labor. Abolishing minimum wage would make people more inclined to improve their skills, in theory. You're right.

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    If you are in your 30's or 40's, and have been working nothing bit minimum wage jobs all your life, then that is on you. You are the problem. If you are a teenager, or in your 20's, pay your damn dues, and shut the hell up!
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    No one should be paid less than $10/hr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by innovation View Post
    Another step towards socialism......it's simply taking money out of the hands of the employer who wants to reward his top performing employees and giving it to those who just want to do the minimum.

    Obama is hell bent on destroying small businesses and this is just another way of distributing money to those who want hand outs......quite a few minimum wage workers are on some sort of assistance.

    Most employees are cutting jobs , benefits, wages, etc.
    They don't give a shit who's top performing. Just another number.

    This is not sports where you get rewarded big for playing.

    People get jobs because they know someone and suck the right dicks not for working. That's 99%, you are talking about 1% if that.

    I can't name one person who got a job without knowing someone.

    Why should a ceo make billions on company who losses millions each year just because his father was the previous owner. Yeah rewarding hard work.

    Better to raise wages AND cut welfare almost to none. That would be more incentive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go Rangers View Post
    I think he needs approval of Congress
    It does.

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    Y most here go after the most powerless members of society is beyond my scope of logical reasoning...

    Oh wait, their easy targets and thats what america does best, going after the easy target...

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    It doesn't matter - you can raise minimum wage which just increases the cost of goods sold. As costs go up, so must prices. In the end, the "real wage" that people make won't change. They will be able to afford just as much as they could today, just will have more dollars to pay for the more dollars things cost. In the very short term while prices catch up, the minimum wage earner will have more spending power but that goes away after a few years and we are back to needing to increase it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Y most here go after the most powerless members of society is beyond my scope of logical reasoning...

    Oh wait, their easy targets and thats what america does best, going after the easy target...
    Why are they the most powerless though? Most have "earned" that minimum wage job.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Y most here go after the most powerless members of society is beyond my scope of logical reasoning...

    Oh wait, their easy targets and thats what america does best, going after the easy target...
    At least America knows the difference between their and they're

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    If you work your whole life making minimum wage, then minimum wage ain't the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by innovation View Post
    Another step towards socialism......it's simply taking money out of the hands of the employer who wants to reward his top performing employees and giving it to those who just want to do the minimum.

    Obama is hell bent on destroying small businesses and this is just another way of distributing money to those who want hand outs......quite a few minimum wage workers are on some sort of assistance.
    im sure u are a huge fan of trickle down economics

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Y most here go after the most powerless members of society is beyond my scope of logical reasoning...

    Oh wait, their easy targets and thats what america does best, going after the easy target...
    This is why u can never count out the Republican party. In a country with brains they wouldn't even get ten percent of the vote. Unfortunately like u said we have people who don't make much but think like billionaires, praying broke people make nothing at all. It is actually amazing that the Republican party can pull something like this off. To find this many stupid people all in one country. I guess it doesn't hurt when the other party lets them get away with it.

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    On the bright side people will be too broke to eat fast food and we'll have less people with heart problems. In the mid 80's people were making $3.00, in the mid 90's around $5, were close to 2015 so $9 dollars is about right.

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    Economics demonstrates that raising the minimum wage leads to increased inflation if all else is held equal.

    It just is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    This is why u can never count out the Republican party. In a country with brains they wouldn't even get ten percent of the vote. Unfortunately like u said we have people who don't make much but think like billionaires, praying broke people make nothing at all. It is actually amazing that the Republican party can pull something like this off. To find this many stupid people all in one country. I guess it doesn't hurt when the other party lets them get away with it.
    Look at demographics of dems and repubs. I don't think anyone here can really argue how the educated vote.......you can argue policy but the uneducated vote democratic. And it's not even close.
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    Everything else goes up... So why not..

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    Look at countries like Norway where the minimum wage is high. Their quality of life is 10x better than the US. Their country is not in debt or has inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Look at demographics of dems and repubs. I don't think anyone here can really argue how the educated vote.......you can argue policy but the uneducated vote democratic. And it's not even close.
    Actually Obama won both elections by getting the majority of the college vote, both students and professors as well as teachers.

    Most republicans in Red states do not go to college or graduate HS and just vote what their fathers and grandfathers voted who also did not go to college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Actually Obama won both elections by getting the majority of the college vote, both students and professors as well as teachers.

    Most republicans in Red states do not go to college or graduate HS and just vote what their fathers and grandfathers voted who also did not go to college.
    Stats on the republican demographic?? Of course educators and kids in college are liberals. They experience everything in theory only. Many people are dem until they graduate and get some experience and a few paychecks. Then they turn republican.

    Obviously there are supremely smart people on both sides of the aisle. Biggest problem is none of them are in DC. Smart people are too smart to become politicians!!
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    Obama is wonderful, so what if health care has been a disaster , so what if the law mandates ppl to have health care except big corporations, big unions and even congress. nothing like a law thats for all Americans

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    How about we look at a minimum wage in reverse?

    Businesses have their break downs on business costs and profit. Their cost of goods goes up, so does their prices.

    What about the workers? The minimum a person can make before they are in poverty is $10 an hour according
    to the govt. Raise the minimum to $10 would still make them borderline.

    Before looking for work, I add up all my bills and figure what amount per hour I will need to pay them. Anything
    over that is profit/ savings.

    Yes I know, it's not a companies place to provide a worker with a living wage, but pay a wage they can live with.
    That's what would happen if the market drove labor rates. Companies would make even more while the worker gets shit.

    A jobs bill of giving tax breaks to companies who hire would increase hiring 10 fold, IMO. Why isn't one proposed?

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    I don't know if anyone posted this or not... because I didn't read all the posts.

    The number one reason why he's raising minimum wage has ZERO to do for the people and their living/spending habits.

    The #1 reason is payroll taxes. When you have a higher set minimum level... that's guaranteed revenue for the IRS. Mom and Pop businesses on their last leg now.

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    Make the min wage $35.00 hr mandatory across USA

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    Hardly anyone is working at minimum wage. It's class warfare bullshit.

    There is a reason some employment is called "entry level". You start there and later improve and find better paying employment. The idea is not to flip burgers into your 30's, 40's, and 50's.

    It's not a hard concept. Now Mickey D employees want 15 plus an hour to do the job of a 16 yr old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    Hardly anyone is working at minimum wage. It's class warfare bullshit.

    There is a reason some employment is called "entry level". You start there and later improve and find better paying employment. The idea is not to flip burgers into your 30's, 40's, and 50's.

    It's not a hard concept. Now Mickey D employees want 15 plus an hour to do the job of a 16 yr old.
    DING DING DING totally correct dude...its a job to springboard you further but most lazy fuks want to support a fam of 5 on it w3 illegitimate kids....unreal I'd can em al

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    Inceased minimum wage just lowers the cost of working for a living and passes it on to those that do. Its a shame that this sort of tactic gets votes.

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