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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do you have a problem with the Kennedy family's wealth, which was accumulated from illegal bootlegging, stock market scams that included stock price manipulation and insider trading?

    Do you have a problem with Harry Reid and his dirty dealings with 'green energy'?

    Do you have a problem with Bill Clinton and the Dixie Mafia money, do you have a problem with Bill's brother and his cocaine dealings and his involvement with the Medelin cartel....

    Dude, I can go all night about rich democrats and dirty money.
    Democrats don't speak for me. They have their snake oil salesman also. The majority of the snakes are republicans tho. Ur just to naive and partisan to realize it.

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    Time Warner and Comcast are getting ready to merge. Now to these corporate ass kissers this is good business and a good thing. Even tho a majority of the people and these nitwits themselves are gonna get slammed again with a price increase from this shit service. So in essence once again these corporate ass kissers are gonna get fuk in the wallet but happy to load additional money in the trunk of their masters cars. You can't even make this shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Time Warner and Comcast are getting ready to merge. Now to these corporate ass kissers this is good business and a good thing. Even tho a majority of the people and these nitwits themselves are gonna get slammed again with a price increase from this shit service. So in essence once again these corporate ass kissers are gonna get fuk in the wallet but happy to load additional money in the trunk of their masters cars. You can't even make this shit up.
    Thor you're wasting your time... There's a reason why Conservitive propaganda sells... It's called sheep...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Most employees are cutting jobs , benefits, wages, etc.
    They don't give a shit who's top performing. Just another number.

    This is not sports where you get rewarded big for playing.

    People get jobs because they know someone and suck the right dicks not for working. That's 99%, you are talking about 1% if that.

    I can't name one person who got a job without knowing someone.

    Why should a ceo make billions on company who losses millions each year just because his father was the previous owner. Yeah rewarding hard work.

    Better to raise wages AND cut welfare almost to none. That would be more incentive.
    Excellent post man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Thor you're wasting your time... There's a reason why Conservitive propaganda sells... It's called sheep...
    Both of you need to learn a few more things about M&A and the business circles....Brian Roberts of Comcast is a butt buddy of Obama....been stacking this deck for about 2 years now. Dem heavy board owes him and he has set it up perfectly for passage. So yes...conservatives and Paul Ryan are responsible just like the head of GE skirts his millions in taxes and then is named head of Obama's jobs council....list goes on. Nice try guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Both of you need to learn a few more things about M&A and the business circles....Brian Roberts of Comcast is a butt buddy of Obama....been stacking this deck for about 2 years now. Dem heavy board owes him and he has set it up perfectly for passage. So yes...conservatives and Paul Ryan are responsible just like the head of GE skirts his millions in taxes and then is named head of Obama's jobs council....list goes on. Nice try guys.
    So what you're are saying is obama is not a socialist but a corporate capitalist... nice try buddy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    So what you're are saying is obama is not a socialist but a corporate capitalist... nice try buddy..
    His ideology is like his race....he's bi He's white on the trail in Boston and whips out his pimp walk when he's in Chicago....socialist when its someone else's gain and Capitalist when the venture nets him some $$.

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    What about the issue of corporate welfare??

    Handing out hundreds of billions to large corps, only to see their bellies getting fatter.

    If they filtered that money back into schools etc then personally wouldnt take issue with it but they dont...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Probably Austrtalia, it's like 15 bucks there
    Indeed....

    Point is, the only reason it cant be done in a fair and equitable manner is because of those at the top who make the excuses that the majority of us then listen and adhere to and act as though its the only way (which is a total lie and fraud)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    lol ranked top in what and by who?


    Regardless you're showing your education level by comparing what one country does so it makes sense for another. Great argument.
    Ok, maybe not this year but my state is ranked 9th for some oddball reason.

    Nice edit btw...Hey, we all follow and try to replicate models of those who are successful whether we admit to it or not.

    Seriously, you have the perception of someone who watches fox news brooksey...Save your sanity and switch it off pal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    1) Don't care who charges club fees, don't shop at either one of them, I shop online and get better deals than any box store.

    2) I'd like to see everyone make as much money as they can, but a gigantic minimum wage hike will drive the little man out of business, the mom and pop stores, or what is left of them will cease to exist. You want to make a gigantic minimum wage hike, apply it to the big boy corportations, leave the little independent mom and pop store owners alone.

    3) "she was bred in Kentucky, but she's just a crumb up here"
    Asshat, there is no 'a' in bred the way you want to use it.

    4) I got my start based on my school grades and my knowledge, I knew nobody at that bank when I first applied.
    It's what I knew, not who I blew pal.

    5) I'm all for anybody and everybody getting theirs, I don't want anybody to beg, I don't want the president of the country to penalize me, and take from me what I earned and worked for and give it to some cradle to grave welfare shitbum just because some cradle to grave welfare shitbum is content on getting by on the government tit.

    Unrelated, how's that Obamacare working out pal?
    You know, if you like your plan you can keep it.

    That's OK, midterms in 8 months, it all ends then.
    How would small businesses hold on to minimum wage employees if their big business competition has to pay their minimum wage employees a substantially higher wage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Time Warner and Comcast are getting ready to merge. Now to these corporate ass kissers this is good business and a good thing. Even tho a majority of the people and these nitwits themselves are gonna get slammed again with a price increase from this shit service. So in essence once again these corporate ass kissers are gonna get fuk in the wallet but happy to load additional money in the trunk of their masters cars. You can't even make this shit up.
    You don't need the services of TW or Comcast to get the same content for pennies of what they charge, just need a lap/desktop, a modem, a router, and you are all set.
    You can get the content off the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickler View Post
    How would small businesses hold on to minimum wage employees if their big business competition has to pay their minimum wage employees a substantially higher wage?
    Common sickler. In the US small businesses pay below minimum wage to illegal immigrants.

    Duh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Ok, maybe not this year but my state is ranked 9th for some oddball reason.

    Nice edit btw...Hey, we all follow and try to replicate models of those who are successful whether we admit to it or not.

    Seriously, you have the perception of someone who watches fox news brooksey...Save your sanity and switch it off pal...
    that's great

    fact is you're trying to compare Australia to USA which means you're an idiot. Join the wagon of foreigners who don't have any intelligence but think they know what's good for another country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Democrats don't speak for me. They have their snake oil salesman also. The majority of the snakes are republicans tho. Ur just to naive and partisan to realize it.
    This statement sums up rkelly,kingmayan and the likes. Seriously like talking to children.
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    Thanks for putting me first. I'm number one in your book, I mean brooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    What about the issue of corporate welfare??

    Handing out hundreds of billions to large corps, only to see their bellies getting fatter.

    If they filtered that money back into schools etc then personally wouldnt take issue with it but they dont...
    Cooch they never comment on corporate welfare. In their eyes these corporations deserve that money. If u have a lot of money it is fine to get more for free in these guys eyes. Now if u are dead broke u need to stay dead broke even tho givin the dead broke guy money hits the economy a lot faster than some asswipe who ran his bank into the ground but somehow got a 50 million dollar bonus the same year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    that's great

    fact is you're trying to compare Australia to USA which means you're an idiot. Join the wagon of foreigners who don't have any intelligence but think they know what's good for another country.
    18 trillion

    Yeah you gotta quite intelligent to get to that level of crookedness...

    That's enough for me to want to know and ensure the same mistakes arent made by people in my country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Cooch they never comment on corporate welfare. In their eyes these corporations deserve that money. If u have a lot of money it is fine to get more for free in these guys eyes. Now if u are dead broke u need to stay dead broke even tho givin the dead broke guy money hits the economy a lot faster than some asswipe who ran his bank into the ground but somehow got a 50 million dollar bonus the same year.
    The corporate welfare you talk about - why do these companies get it? Explain to me why they are getting all this welfare? Is it just a pure handout? Or is it because the government has deemed certain events (green energy research, bringing jobs back into the country, etc.) are better for the country and therefore give tax breaks to companies who take advantage of that? Is that the handout you are talking about?? Do you own a house? Do you write off interest payments? If so - do you consider that a handout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Thanks for putting me first. I'm number one in your book, I mean brooks.
    Brooks is a guy who holds a union card but is a far right republican. Anyone this incredibly stupid isn't even worth discussing things with. Ignore is a wonderful feature. I rarely use it but when u have guys like him and this Dwight nitwit i can't think of a better function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    The corporate welfare you talk about - why do these companies get it? Explain to me why they are getting all this welfare? Is it just a pure handout? Or is it because the government has deemed certain events (green energy research, bringing jobs back into the country, etc.) are better for the country and therefore give tax breaks to companies who take advantage of that? Is that the handout you are talking about?? Do you own a house? Do you write off interest payments? If so - do you consider that a handout?
    Oil companies get handouts while making record profits. Do u think they need those handouts? The only reason they get them is because they are in the back pocket of the Republican party that poses as if they are fiscally conservative. Israel also gets a huge handout because they are in the back pocket of both parties. Do u think they need them billions every year while our deficit soars? I had a business and i didn't get a handout. Every swinging dik was trying to nail me with some type of fee when i was starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Cooch they never comment on corporate welfare. In their eyes these corporations deserve that money. If u have a lot of money it is fine to get more for free in these guys eyes. Now if u are dead broke u need to stay dead broke even tho givin the dead broke guy money hits the economy a lot faster than some asswipe who ran his bank into the ground but somehow got a 50 million dollar bonus the same year.
    Yeah I see how its supposed to work. Trickle down from the top but reality is far from the supposed theory.

    Its definitely an interesting topic to see just how many of us truly are receiving government assistance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    The corporate welfare you talk about - why do these companies get it? Explain to me why they are getting all this welfare? Is it just a pure handout? Or is it because the government has deemed certain events (green energy research, bringing jobs back into the country, etc.) are better for the country and therefore give tax breaks to companies who take advantage of that? Is that the handout you are talking about?? Do you own a house? Do you write off interest payments? If so - do you consider that a handout?
    I'd much rather have tax breaks go to companies and people who actually pay taxes, provide jobs and also give us all a service than to give money to those who earn none and are a drag on the economy.

    What is a better return on investment....energy company or retail business gets offered incentive to open up and employ x amount of people who then provide a service or product access to us consumers or Bubba Jack who immediately blows the money and is still in the same position the next time around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    This statement sums up rkelly,kingmayan and the likes. Seriously like talking to children.
    It's like shooting fish in a barrell Brooks.

    Not saying the republicans don't and didn't have corruption, but to say the majority of the corruption comes from that side is just ignorant and ludicrous.

    Democrats through out American history have a strangle hold on shady dealings.

    Like I said, Kennedy fortune was made on bootlegging, stock market fraud and insider dealing, and so on and on and on.
    Even Jackie O married a filthy shady ship magnate.

    Clinton's didn't run the dixie mafia down there in Mississippi/Arkansas, but he was very influential, Bubba's brother ran tons of coke for them, the dirty laundry list is endless.
    Bill worshipped the Kennedy's, Clinton emulated JFK every step of the way, dirty dealings, sleeping with every piece of ass that came his way.....
    Like I said, Harry Reid and his dirty green energy money.

    Let's not forget the Daley corruption machine out there in Chicago.
    Daley's been ripping off Cook County for half a century plus.
    Not to mention there are dead grandma's voting democrat three times in the same election in Chcicago, you got dogs and cats voting as registered democrats......
    Another one who has deep ties with the Kennedys

    History of corruption in America starts with Boss Tweed, google Tammany Hall if you want.

    Andrew Jackson, the seventh president, you know, the founder of the democrat party, God bless that man huh?
    Slaughtered American Indians, forced them off their land with his Indian Removal Act.
    Owned dozens of slaves, treated them like shit.

    Andrew Jackson had District Court judges arrested and thrown in jail for not agreeing with him, lawyers, anybody and everybody.
    Who does that sound like now?

    And this guy was the founder of the democratic party, and one of the most corrupt pieces of shit in American history, and many democrats today both have and use his text book.

    Start with Boss Tweed in the 1780's, work your way through Andrew Jackson, the Daleys, the Kennedys of the mid 1900's.
    I got a thousand more examples, but I got more important things to do than take ignorant demorcrats to school.
    It's not like what I just posted wasn't taught in college, even high schooi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Its definitely an interesting topic to see just how many of us truly are receiving government assistance...
    These figures are from the government, not mine, not yours, but official government figures.

    49 percent of the US population live in a household where at least one member received a direct benefit from the government


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    It's like shooting fish in a barrell Brooks.

    Not saying the republicans don't and didn't have corruption, but to say the majority of the corruption comes from that side is just ignorant and ludicrous.

    Democrats through out American history have a strangle hold on shady dealings.

    Like I said, Kennedy fortune was made on bootlegging, stock market fraud and insider dealing, and so on and on and on.
    Even Jackie O married a filthy shady ship magnate.

    Clinton's didn't run the dixie mafia down there in Mississippi/Arkansas, but he was very influential, Bubba's brother ran tons of coke for them, the dirty laundry list is endless.
    Bill worshipped the Kennedy's, Clinton emulated JFK every step of the way, dirty dealings, sleeping with every piece of ass that came his way.....
    Like I said, Harry Reid and his dirty green energy money.

    Let's not forget the Daley corruption machine out there in Chicago.
    Daley's been ripping off Cook County for half a century plus.
    Not to mention there are dead grandma's voting democrat three times in the same election in Chcicago, you got dogs and cats voting as registered democrats......
    Another one who has deep ties with the Kennedys

    History of corruption in America starts with Boss Tweed, google Tammany Hall if you want.

    Andrew Jackson, the seventh president, you know, the founder of the democrat party, God bless that man huh?
    Slaughtered American Indians, forced them off their land with his Indian Removal Act.
    Owned dozens of slaves, treated them like shit.

    Andrew Jackson had District Court judges arrested and thrown in jail for not agreeing with him, lawyers, anybody and everybody.
    Who does that sound like now?

    And this guy was the founder of the democratic party, and one of the most corrupt pieces of shit in American history, and many democrats today both have and use his text book.

    Start with Boss Tweed in the 1780's, work your way through Andrew Jackson, the Daleys, the Kennedys of the mid 1900's.
    I got a thousand more examples, but I got more important things to do than take ignorant demorcrats to school.
    It's not like what I just posted wasn't taught in college, even high schooi.

    Jesse Jackson Jr serving time now, Ray Nagin on his way after the convictions this week, Terry McAuliffe and his Global Crossing deal, Al Gore and his climate shakedowns, Valerie Jarrett and her slum lord background in Chicago, Charlie Rangel, Rostenkowski, Traficant......could go on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Common sickler. In the US small businesses pay below minimum wage to illegal immigrants.

    Duh!
    In Canada if you put an employee on the books he/she has to have a social insurance number. I'm assuming the US has something similar.

    If someone's hiring illegals, they're not bound by any wage guidelines. You could make the minimum wage $5 or $15 and it wouldn't matter. It's all under the table.

    Pavy, so you're saying small businesses shouldn't care about the minimum wage being jacked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickler View Post
    Pavy, so you're saying small businesses shouldn't care about the minimum wage being jacked up.
    Exactly. Small businesses don't even pay minimum wage. It's cheaper for them to pay the illegals cash under the table than having SS and pay all the taxes associated with a payroll.

    The problem with minimum wage is not small business. The problem is the big corporations like Walmart, McDonald's. The investors in these companies which are publicly traded look for profits. So their goal is to sell the most by using the least amount of workers and pay them the minimum they could under current laws without providing any benefits. It's the modern version of slavery. From where the products are manufactured to where the products are sold people are used as slaves.
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    Raise taxes raise the min wage, what a fukin jerkoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Exactly. Small businesses don't even pay minimum wage. It's cheaper for them to pay the illegals cash under the table than having SS and pay all the taxes associated with a payroll.

    The problem with minimum wage is not small business. The problem is the big corporations like Walmart, McDonald's. The investors in these companies which are publicly traded look for profits. So their goal is to sell the most by using the least amount of workers and pay them the minimum they could under current laws without providing any benefits. It's the modern version of slavery. From where the products are manufactured to where the products are sold people are used as slaves.
    Canada doesn't have a lot of illegals but we do have a seasonal agricultural workers program that sees over 20,000 Mexicans from Mexico come to Ontario to pick fruit off trees, etc...Migrant farm workers. I don't know what they're paid.

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    Common sickler. In the US small businesses pay below minimum wage to illegal immigrants.

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    Really Nash? Spewing history? Tell us the one about when the parties switched their beliefs. Tell us about how
    those in office will switch what they believe because of someone with a bigger wallet. If unions gave more money to
    the Repubs than what corporations do, you can bet your sweet ass they will change their tune.

    The funny part is, when your boys start changing their tune to get re elected, like they are doing now, you guys will
    be taking their side.

    I understand you guys want to be like them, that's cool, but don't bust on us because we don't or put yourselves
    on pedestals. There's no one worse than a smart smart ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Oil companies get handouts while making record profits. Do u think they need those handouts? The only reason they get them is because they are in the back pocket of the Republican party that poses as if they are fiscally conservative. Israel also gets a huge handout because they are in the back pocket of both parties. Do u think they need them billions every year while our deficit soars? I had a business and i didn't get a handout. Every swinging dik was trying to nail me with some type of fee when i was starting.
    You didn't answer my question. What handout are you referring to? Tell me exactly what the oil company gets in the form of handout. The poor get welfare checks. I can tell you exactly what handout they get. Describe the handout oil companies get. Don't just say they get them. Prove it to me. I honestly don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Really Nash? Spewing history? Tell us the one about when the parties switched their beliefs. Tell us about how
    those in office will switch what they believe because of someone with a bigger wallet. If unions gave more money to
    the Repubs than what corporations do, you can bet your sweet ass they will change their tune.

    The funny part is, when your boys start changing their tune to get re elected, like they are doing now, you guys will
    be taking their side.

    I understand you guys want to be like them, that's cool, but don't bust on us because we don't or put yourselves
    on pedestals. There's no one worse than a smart smart ass.

    Let's break down your post shall we.
    Since you asked, I will spew some more history

    1) The parties switched beliefs twice.
    Remember the history I spewed about Andrew Jackson a few posts back.
    In the 1820's democrats could not run away fast enough from Andrew Jackson and his ways.
    That was the main reason for that party turn, kind of like what democrats are doing now with Obama, you know the ones, the ones that are pleading, "please don't lump me in with Obamacare..."

    The second time was in the 1960's
    Bassically New England and California went red to blue
    Miss/Ala those southern states went blue to red.

    2) My boys?
    Who exactly are my boys?
    Sure I am a regisgtered republican, I have said this several times on these here boards, I do not vote uip and down the party line.
    If the democratic party trotted out a candidate that lined up with me on several key issues, and is the better candidate, I will vote the democrat.
    I have voted democrat several times here in the locals and states.
    While I am on the subject of voting up and down the party line, if they kept such statistics, I bet more democrats do that then republuicans.
    I know a shitload of democrats that would vote Hitler if he had a (D) next to his name on the ballot.

    3) I think I hit a nerve when I had to give Thor a little history lesson regarding dirty politics in American history.
    Sure the republicans have had their fair share of dirty doings, but how could Thor sit there with a straight face say the democrats are cleaner.
    Shut him up and down real fast. History is history, sorry if the truth hurts.

    4) You understand I want to be like who? Who is them?
    I don't want to be just like any politician, I want to be just like me.
    The only person I ever wanted to be like, and if this sounds hoaky, so be it, I wanted to be, and I think I am, just like my dad.
    He was one of the finest military engineers that ever lived (and a whole lot of other things) and, by the way, one of the biggest democrats the ever lived, but I get it, the party thinking changed some when he was young adult then it is now. He was the only person I ever put on a pedestal, and will be the last person.

    My parting shot, and it's not to you Kelly, I've always been cool with you, I never got a handout, I got my first job off my scholastic transcripts.
    Then I took my entry level experience and my scholastic transcripts and got a bettert job in my field.
    Never, as in ever was I hired or promoted from nepatism. I never had an Uncle promote me for being a nephew. I never got hired because I date the recruiters daughter.
    Nobody ever gave me anything, I got where I got the old fashioned way, and yes, I have a problem giving a big portion of what I earned to some cradle to grave welfare lifer because he or she thinks they deserve it.

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