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    That's nice, why does the shithead have to toot his own horn like this? The guy has always been a jagoff.

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    if everyone was 18 again and had a combine he would destroy them. then he would get drafted #1

    miami heat wouldnt win a playoff round without him winning 3 straight titles with him. plz

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    some guys have incredible records
    what records has lebron broken?
    kareem-most points in nba by 1500 points, 6 championships, 3rd in rebounding, total fukking badass
    wilt-scored over 50 points in a game 118 times!
    jordan- dropped 63 points in a playoff game (went to 2OT though)
    etc. etc.

    break some records first
    Last edited by face; 02-12-14 at 12:52 PM.

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    I think all the hate on lebron takes away from how good he really is.Too many focused on his publicity then his on court skills.People calling him lechoke??????????????????/YEA OKKKKKKKKKKKKKK LECHOKE CARRIED ONE OF THE NBA WORST TEAMS TOO THE FINALS.NAME ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OTHER PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA WHO CARRIED A TEAM TO THE FINALS PLAYING WITH A BUNCHA NO NAME???????PLEASE NAME THE PLAYER WHO DID THAT???

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    Olajuwon did it with the 2nd best player on the team being Otis Thorpe

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    I will be the first to admit that Lebron is an amazing athlete and is the best player in the NBA right now. But what kills me is his cockiness attitude and his constant need for attention.
    On the eve of the dunk contest, he needs to release a dunk video to grab everyones attention so we can talk about him.
    Then he makes this cocky top 4 comment like we already don't know he will be one of the best. Then this will be the conversation for the rest of the month.
    He is a legit attention whore.
    I honestly cant stand him anymore because ESPN reports his every move.
    Even when it's not NBA related, sportscenter will send a bullshit Lebron update like this.....
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    Stop the madness

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    Who can ever surpass the great mystique of a legend? Only time can weather away the memories and make room for the doubt required to even suggest other players. The older we get the less impact our memory of Jordan (or others) has; part of his greatness will be lost in time. Sure there is video footage but the footage/records do little to convey the meaning and emotion that took place when Jordan "did his thing".

    This mystique guides our perception of players today. It would be hard to look at this objectively if you were exposed to MJ in your lifetime, or any other of the greats (Russell, Kareem, Magic, Oscar). The younger generations can see the footage but have no idea of the make-up of the league or quality of competition in those days. Players like Lebron are, in a way, unfairly compared to players from a different era. If you wanted to objectively look at this you'd have to take into account every variable. Which is impossible. A statement like "who is the greatest" is a subjective question. Greatness is an ambiguous term that means different things to different people.

    After all how do we measure or accurately portray intangibles like will-power or clutchness or leadership? Sure we can compare numbers left and right but any stats created were uniquely created. Where the player was standing, what he ate that day, his opponents, the weather, fathers dying, politics, wife, children. All I'm saying is there is more behind the stats than meets the eye and to look at this objectively is almost impossible. If you were to use stats to "objectively" measure clear favorites and list them accordingly than you'd fall short because of the immeasurable intangibles. Jordan wasn't considered the best ever because he was so great he could defy the laws of physics (though you'd think so after some of the things he did), Jordan's talent prepared him for the opportunity that the universe (or god if you believe in that) gave him, the opportunity to be the greatest ever.

    To become one of the greatest ever doesn't just require championships, or record breaking stats, or dominance of your opponents, it also requires that you steal the audiences hearts and emotions. Make them believe in you and root for you... then win. This is the way to become great.

    Honestly, Lebron has become somewhat of a comparison to Jordan but not as an equal but sort of as his usurper. This villainizes him in some aspects and people will have a strong reaction to this. However, you get a certain amount of supporters who will defend him because they see what is obvious, immense amount of rare talent. Jordan is loved by all, Lebron is hated by most.

    One of the greatest of all time Lebron? It shouldn't be important to him. Everyone will have their own list of who were the greatest players anyways. There is no objective answer. I say good. This would be a less interesting subject if it were a factual list that you could just go look up. The fact that he is considered by most is as much as any other player is getting. Placing top 4 is a subjective exercise.

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    1. Jordan
    2. Bryant
    3. Magic
    4. Kareem
    5. Lebron
    6. Bird

    Every all time laker great already said bryant is the greatest laker ever. No one that played in the 60s is in the top 5. Only 4 black guys allowed per team. When Wilt scored 100 Coach Red laughed and said "He's playing against no one."

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    Person who Micheal Jordan said would beat anyone one on one? Oscar Robertson. Cool thing I heard on first take, thought I'd share.

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    Kareem playing in the 60's

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    too much focus on what he does off the court.... not enough focus on what he does on the court. Great teammate, looks at his numbers and efficiency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    1. Jordan
    2. Bryant
    3. Magic
    4. Kareem
    5. Lebron
    6. Bird

    Every all time laker great already said bryant is the greatest laker ever. No one that played in the 60s is in the top 5. Only 4 black guys allowed per team. When Wilt scored 100 Coach Red laughed and said "He's playing against no one."
    do you know kareems best years werent with the lakers?

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    Duncan and Kobe still has better legacy than him. BTW, what's all this hype again on LeBron? KD is having a great year, Blazers are having a great year, Pacers are having a great year. WTF is with ESPN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I wish I could agree, but I can't. He does everything. Yes, he has the best athletic pedigree. But so what, he should be penalized for that? Look at his shooting percentage. Rebounding, passer, defender, he does it all, let's be honest. I think he's already #2 behind MJ #1 without a doubt.
    Yes. Jordan #1. Anyone who disagrees is a tool. Lebron.......probably have to go with #2. Plenty of distance between him and Mike, but the guy is amazing.

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    the top 5 all time goes

    1) Magic
    2) Wilt
    3) Kareem
    4) Bill Russell
    5) julius erving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Pujols View Post
    Yes. Jordan #1. Anyone who disagrees is a tool. Lebron.......probably have to go with #2. Plenty of distance between him and Mike, but the guy is amazing.

    anyone who puts jordan 1 all time is a penetrating idiot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M-KCulzJqg

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    durant isn't getting mentioned enough. he is the best player in the game

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    way to put pressure on yourself

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