[Easy-Rider 66]

^ Thx. Good info.

[byronbb]

They said the same sh1t when Blount was coming to Denver, who got only a measly 6 yards when the game was still close. Yeah Talib got hurt, but what does that has to do with New England scoring only 3 points until the 4th quarter?

What the hell are you talking about? Blount and Lynch don't go in the same sentence ever unless Lynch is smoking one.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

They said the same sh1t when Blount was coming to Denver, who got only a measly 6 yards when the game was still close. Yeah Talib got hurt, but what does that has to do with New England scoring only 3 points until the 4th quarter?

maybe because brady has nobody worth a damn to throw to and the pats D couldn't keep manning off the field...what did thomas do last game at foxboro when talib was on him? he was non existent...

[frostno98]

maybe because brady has nobody worth a damn to throw to and the pats D couldn't keep manning off the field...what did thomas do last game at foxboro when talib was on him? he was non existent...

DT score the game tying TD to send that game into OT on Talib. Talib also had the wind and the cold to back his @ss up. In the Championship game DT caught a 29 yard pass on Talib before he went out. You guys like to use stat that favors your argument but leave
out other sh1t like the elements which usually affects the passing game. Lagerette Blount was unstoppable in his last few games and everyone here thought he was going to have his way against Denver. Denver finally made him look mediocre now you guys simply disregard how great he was before.

[BigdaddyQH]

Have to agree with a lot of what you wrote. A lot of this Square vs. Sharp talk on SBR is garbage. If you can why don't give away some info on how it works? Might be an interesting read.

Here is an example of how little many of you guys in here know about Vegas books. Did you know that every shop is tied together by a rather intricate computer system that allows a book to immediately send information about a large wager and the picture of the person who placed that large wager to every other book in Vegas? They do this, in part, to stop people from trying to play middles, and in part, to make sure that every book is on the same page odds wise. Books have an agreement so they can lay off wagers on another book if they get too much action on one team. If another book is getting too much action on another team, they will just lay the action off on each other. There are ways of beating this, but you must know what you are doing. Many shops will NOT take large wagers from a person they do not know. This is why Bull Shi**ers like Lakerboy get caught every time they open their mouths. He never has made a large wager in Vegas. He also is just about pennyless in real life. He is known as one of the worst 'Cappers around. Sharps are aware of this. Sharps also do not have to hide their action because the books still get the same vig from them as they do from Joe Pub. There are ways of making Joe Pub wager the way the books want them to wager. Sharps and the books work together more times than most people know about. See "Bait and Switch".

[frostno98]

My local is pretty accurate with which side the squares are on. If the action is really one sided the juice is usually moved up to -125 while remaining steady with the current line. My local prefers to increase the juice instead of moving the line because they're confindent public action will lose. If the line remains -110 by kickoff then the action is about even and the local profits no matter what.

[PAULYPOKER]

Here is an example of how little many of you guys in here know about Vegas books. Did you know that every shop is tied together by a rather intricate computer system that allows a book to immediately send information about a large wager and the picture of the person who placed that large wager to every other book in Vegas?

Ugh,What are runners for?,for $5,000 Alex..........

[lakerboy]

Does your local take large wagers? Does he have sharp guys? Otherwise the juice won't matter. Most locals copy lines. If he is just shading to -125 then he is no sharp guys.

[bigboydan]

Does your local take large wagers? Does he have sharp guys? Otherwise the juice won't matter. Most locals copy lines. If he is just shading to -125 then he is no sharp guys.

Pavyracer :

[BigdaddyQH]

Ugh,What are runners for?,for $5,000 Alex..........

play t
Again we have someone who knows NOTHING about how Vegas operates. All runners in Vegas are known byu the shops they do business with. As long as they lay about the same amount of money on each side, there are no problems. Please do not tell me that you actuall think that a runner takes your action ONLY. You know, if you ever actually eperienced any of this, you would know what you were talking about, but since we BOTH know that you have not, it is best to read and learn.

[frostno98]

For what it's worth the Broncos defense has beaten the #2 offense Eagles, #5 Chargers, #7 Patriots, and #9 Redskins.

[Dollars2Donuts]

For what it's worth the Broncos defense has beaten the #2 offense Eagles, #5 Chargers, #7 Patriots, and #9 Redskins.

OK, while you make some valid points, you do sound like a total homer.....you would be a lot better off not being so biased.

[freakydave]

For what it's worth the Broncos defense has beaten the #2 offense Eagles, #5 Chargers, #7 Patriots, and #9 Redskins.

It's not worth much--beating the eagles in sept & also losing to NE & SD WEEK 12 & week 15 is more indicative of how poor the D really is

[GunShard]

The majority of the money is on Denver and it's not even close. You can't tell me that it's ALL sharp money. Furthermore, even if it was, you can't really believe that the 80/20 DEN/SEA ratio is suddenly gonna swing to 40/60 or so when the public decides to throw down their money.

Why would the public favor Seattle? They have a ho-hum offense with a quarterback who people consider to be a "game manager." Sure, the defense is great, but defenses aren't what titillate the average bettor.

The Broncos have all the hallmarks of a public darling. They have the big 6'5" first ballot HOF record setting quarterback....a guy who will be making his 3rd Super Bowl appearance and chasing his 2nd ring, not to mention the TV commercials and the family pedigree. The receiving corps is hands-down the best in the league, headlined by a prototypical modern day gamebreaker in Demaryius Thomas. The running game is efficient. "Squares" love a sexy offense and the Broncos have it in spades.

Denver has a more storied history, with Elway hoisting the Lombardi trophy twice. Seattle has, um, Matt Hasselbeck? ..Meh "Manning" is synonymous with football. "Wilson" makes volleyballs.

So this notion that the squares are or will be backing the Seahawks in droves is silly and unfounded. It's probably just the OP's attempt to convince himself that Denver is the right side (which it could very well be, but not because it's a public fade).

I'm an unbiased Broncos fan and I agree with your points.

[DoubleR90]

The worst part about SBR is all the people talking about squares and sharps. "Your a square for that bet" or "all the sharp money is on this side so you are a square", its fcking corny. Sounds like a bunch of teenagers man......screw where all the money is going, handicap the game to the best of your ability, provide facts and/or reasons why you think your play is profitable and leave it at that. I'm so sick of hearing about sharps and squares I swear its so fcking lame. /rant


As for the substance of this thread, I think both Denver's defense and Seattle's offense are both being a bit overlooked by the majority of bettors. A lot of backers make threads with their picks and post about who is going to win the Seattle defense vs. Denver offense matchup, and honestly that is not where the game is going to get won. We already know both of those sides of the ball are going to come out strong, the winner is going to be determined by which team's weaker side is going to shine through.

For those of you who have not locked in an early bet and are still handicapping, virtually all of your time should be spent capping Denver's defense and Seattle's offense, not the other way around.

[Eddy Munny]

The thing about all this sharp/square mumbo jumbo is that people act like there's this crystal clear divide where the squares represent the majority, and the sharps the opposite......as if we're talking about Autobots and Decepticons. It's seldom that black and white.

I don't have any evidence to support it, but my personal guess is that the squares like Denver, and the sharps are split. I don't think there's a true sharp side in this matchup. Bet accordingly.

[homie1975]

The Broncos gave up 13 to Houston. Raider got 14 in garbage time with 5 minutes left. San Diego managed to get 17 but needed an onside kick just to do that. That Patriots scored 43 the previous playoff game and only managed to get 16 points because Denver was playing prevent defense. It's laughable how people here are still living in past and are too blind to see the hottest defense in the NFL right now.

i agree the broncos d under del rio needs to be respected but the pats scored a good chunk of their points on the colts off turnovers which gave them short fields and completely demoralized the colts

[ThaTopMoron]

The Broncos gave up 13 to Houston. Raider got 14 in garbage time with 5 minutes left. San Diego managed to get 17 but needed an onside kick just to do that. That Patriots scored 43 the previous playoff game and only managed to get 16 points because Denver was playing prevent defense. It's laughable how people here are still living in past and are too blind to see the hottest defense in the NFL right now.

quiet

i need as many people as possible to put their money on Seattle

[Tommy Karate]

How are squares underestimating Denver's defense if almost 80% of the bets are currently on the Broncos? It looks like Seattle's offense, if anything, is what's being overlooked.

what i love is when members here call others squares as if theyre sharp.

now thats some funny shit...

[boeing power]

[greenhippo]

Embarrassing no?

[Not-A-Kid]

Unreal

[InTheDrink]

Unreal

best avatar and screen name combo ever