[C-Gold]

Peyton Manning was the best QB in the NFL and #2 wasn't Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees. It was a guy that after last year some people thought wasn't even in the top 10 anymore after spending the better part of the last decade in the top 5 or so.

I have watched a number of Charger games this year and Rivers has been phenomenal. He was over 70% completion percentage for much of the year and he wasn't a dink or dunk kind of guy, he threw tons of mid range passes and his 8.2 yards per comp is .1 behind Peyton Manning and I promise you it wasn't all rac yards and dinking and dunking.

32 TD
11 INT
4478 yards
105.5 QB rating

3rd best QB rating
4th most TD passes
5th most passing yards
Low INT total for a passing QB who threw down field this year.

Rivers is a leader. He went into Denver and won. He went into KC and won. He went into Cincy and won in the playoffs.

He has such leadership and command of the offense. He can call audibles, he can be part of the game planning. He can exploit weaknesses and he throws a good mid range and deep ball. Some of those passes in the Cincinnati, KC and Denver games were so accurate.

It is amazing what an improved O-Line and better coaching did this year with McCoy and Whisenhunt. Rivers had an amazing year and he was the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

I have been highly highly impressed with his play, his leadership and command of the offense this year. He was spectacular.

[NavsPicks]

Lol I can name 3 qbs who outplayed rivers in the 2013 reg season...

Dalton
Alex smith
Newton

But thanks for making a fool out of yourself

[C-Gold]

Lol I can name 3 qbs who outplayed rivers in the 2013 reg season...

Dalton
Alex smith
Newton

But thanks for making a fool out of yourself

Dalton threw 20 picks and completed 61% of his passes and that was with AJ Green.

Alex Smith 60% completions, only 23 TD passes and 6.5 yards per comp because he was a dink and dunk game manager.

Newton 61% and he only passes for 211 yards per game. Newton also took all sorts of unnecessary sacks. 43 sacks behind that offensive line is pitiful. He has awful pocket awareness.

Those guys weren't anywhere near Rivers level and maybe not even top 10 QBs this year.

[ChalkyDog]

Ken Wisenhunt.

If that guy ends up in either Detroit or Dallas, good things will happen for those teams.

[C-Gold]

Ken Wisenhunt.

If that guy ends up in either Detroit or Dallas, good things will happen for those teams.

The Steelers should have hired Whisenhunt over Tomlin. There is a 0.00% chance Tomlin could have taken the Arizona Cardinals to the super bowl like Whisenhunt did. He will be a successful head coach again.

[lakerboy]

Lol I can name 3 qbs who outplayed rivers in the 2013 reg season...

Dalton
Alex smith
Newton

But thanks for making a fool out of yourself

get a clue

[lakerboy]

whats funny is that people dont think that whisenhunt will find a way to exploit that awful broncos defense.

[C-Gold]

I like DJ Fluker on the right side. He brings a lot of toughness.

Isn't it amazing how San Diego, Dallas, Phila, and Chicago all successfully rebuilt their offensive lines? They were all awful last year and they really improved. Chicago drafted Kyle Long, brought in another rookie on the right side, and brought in Bushrod. Dallas drafted a center. Phila drafted a RT and Mathis and the C really played well. SD drafted Fluker who is a monster.

[lakerboy]

denver will not get any pressure. rivers will make that crowd go quiet and do what he wants.

[NavsPicks]

get a clue

Lol coming from u? If the only two ppl that disagree with me are lakerboy and ccgold.. I must be right.

[jjgold]

Rivers started well and is ending well, this guy always was a big time QB.

[antifoil]

jj needs to make a video wearing a bolo tie coaching up philip rivers.

[Mitchell88]

will Rivers make the HOF with his stats alone? or does he have to win the big one to make it? thoughts?

[Vinnie Paz]

will Rivers make the HOF with his stats alone? or does he have to win the big one to make it? thoughts?

no hes not a hofer.

[InTheDrink]

will Rivers make the HOF with his stats alone? or does he have to win the big one to make it? thoughts?

32k yards? not even close yet without any other team accomplishments

32 also isnt that old for a qb these days though so he could get there with a few more years comparable to this one

[C-Gold]

no hes not a hofer.

If Rivers can play 5 to 7 more years like this he has a shot.

Right now he probably Rivals Mcnabb and that's a NO HOF although there will be pressure to put Mcnabb in because he is a black QB and ESPN will of course push for him.

[slacker00]

I like DJ Fluker on the right side. He brings a lot of toughness.

Isn't it amazing how San Diego, Dallas, Phila, and Chicago all successfully rebuilt their offensive lines? They were all awful last year and they really improved. Chicago drafted Kyle Long, brought in another rookie on the right side, and brought in Bushrod. Dallas drafted a center. Phila drafted a RT and Mathis and the C really played well. SD drafted Fluker who is a monster.

CHI's transformation was amazing, but PHI had a great line already, DAL has been building for a few years now.

[Mitchell88]

32k yards? not even close yet without any other team accomplishments

32 also isnt that old for a qb these days though so he could get there with a few more years comparable to this one

I agree that he is not there yet. They were debating it on Boston talk radio today on host said that he is with a super bowl win the other host said that he has a long way to go even if he did win the bowl this year. just wanted to know what you guys thought

[C-Gold]

CHI's transformation was amazing, but PHI had a great line already, DAL has been building for a few years now.

That's not what the Vick apologists would say. Vick sucked so of course he had no line.

[dlunc3]

That's not what the Vick apologists would say. Vick sucked so of course he had no line.

phillys entire line was out hurt last yr other then Mathis.. All 5 guys were healthy this yr

[C-Gold]

phillys entire line was out hurt last yr other then Mathis.. All 5 guys were healthy this yr

Always excuses for the ^&$@$). It has been nothing but excuses for more than a decade that the dog killer has been around.

[inTomWeTrust]

Peyton Manning was the best QB in the NFL and #2 wasn't Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees. It was a guy that after last year some people thought wasn't even in the top 10 anymore after spending the better part of the last decade in the top 5 or so.

I have watched a number of Charger games this year and Rivers has been phenomenal. He was over 70% completion percentage for much of the year and he wasn't a dink or dunk kind of guy, he threw tons of mid range passes and his 8.2 yards per comp is .1 behind Peyton Manning and I promise you it wasn't all rac yards and dinking and dunking.

32 TD
11 INT
4478 yards
105.5 QB rating

3rd best QB rating
4th most TD passes
5th most passing yards
Low INT total for a passing QB who threw down field this year.

Rivers is a leader. He went into Denver and won. He went into KC and won. He went into Cincy and won in the playoffs.

He has such leadership and command of the offense. He can call audibles, he can be part of the game planning. He can exploit weaknesses and he throws a good mid range and deep ball. Some of those passes in the Cincinnati, KC and Denver games were so accurate.

It is amazing what an improved O-Line and better coaching did this year with McCoy and Whisenhunt. Rivers had an amazing year and he was the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

I have been highly highly impressed with his play, his leadership and command of the offense this year. He was spectacular.

And exactly how is he better than Andrew Luck??? They won in SD against them because they kept luck off the feild...


TELL ME how those wins are more impressive than Luck vs seahwaks cheifs twice BRONCOS etc. and SF Just please stop man....


I like rivers but hes cocky and rubs teammates the wrong way.. i love his passion but its not pro-active all the time he throws fits like a little girl and points the finger alot.. is he a leader? yes but how is it better than luck?

the tooter does it again

[inTomWeTrust]

[inTomWeTrust]

[slacker00]

That's not what the Vick apologists would say. Vick sucked so of course he had no line.

What does Vick have to do with this discussion? If anything, the O-line injuries effected Foles more than Vick.

[Roy Halladay]

Good thread. I agree. Amazing how he seems to push the football instead of throwing it. yet he's highly effective.

[Roy Halladay]

As for Vick, he is what he is. He's an amazing athlete, but an average quarterback. He's just too damn small to play the way he he does as he can not sustain taking hits like Scam Newton can.

[C-Gold]

Rivers vs Luck who I like by the way

Yards
Rivers 4478
Luck 3822

TD passes
Rivers 32
Luck 23

INT
Rivers 11
Luck 9

QB Rating
Rivers 105.5
Luck 87.0

Sacks
Rivers 32
Luck 30

Completion percentage
Rivers 69.5%
Luck 60.2%

Look, I like Luck, I like him a lot. He is the best young QB by a mile, he is the most valuable player going forward in the NFL right now as far as if everybody got thrown into a pot and redrafted dynasty style - Luck would certainly be the #1 pick. With that being said it is hard to argue that Luck had a better year than Rivers.

Rivers has more TDs, more yards, about the same INTs and Rivers completion percentage was 10% higher. His efficiency and rating is higher. He is a leader, he audibles, he changes plays and played a nearly flawless year and was the 2nd best QB in the league this year.

[inTomWeTrust]

I dont disagree with that in terms of stats this year.. im talking BIG GAMES and leadership and dealing with pressure specifically

[C-Gold]

I dont disagree with that in terms of stats this year.. im talking BIG GAMES and leadership and dealing with pressure specifically

I said Philip Rivers was the 2nd best QB in the NFL this year and he was.

If Peyton Manning didn't play this year then Rivers was the best QB in the NFL this year.

[inTomWeTrust]

I said Philip Rivers was the 2nd best QB in the NFL this year and he was.

If Peyton Manning didn't play this year then Rivers was the best QB in the NFL this year.

I agree with that bud.. you're right.

[Luckycharms2012]

I agree with that bud.. you're right.

Tom you owe me for that RickyRoma BS, here's your chance to make good. Whats the play for the Saints/Seahawk game.

[C-Gold]

I agree with that bud.. you're right.

and I like Luck a lot for the future. Always have. ESPN finally caught on after constantly pumping that mud rat RG3-13 for two years.