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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    okay drinker.
    ive been wanting to say that to someone forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnickell100 View Post
    Carr won't start in the nfl??? How much are you willing to put on that????
    Lol.

    Booking bets on here is illegal.

    What team would he start for?

    Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles, and McCarron or Murray should all go before him in the draft and there are only so many starting QB jobs in the NFL that will be open next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    ive been wanting to say that to someone forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebuttluv View Post
    Lol.

    Booking bets on here is illegal.

    What team would he start for?

    Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles, and McCarron or Murray should all go before him in the draft and there are only so many starting QB jobs in the NFL that will be open next year.
    come on guy. Tons of teams need qb every year. Bridge water is going #1. After that, everything is still up in the air. Mccarron should go late first day or second day. Manziel, bortles and Carr right now are going to be battling for the 2 qb spot.
    Most mock drafts have Carr going to Minnesota at 7 and yes he's better than freeman, cassel and ponder.
    The senior bowl and combine is most likely going to decide where those 3 qb go. Carr is going to kill at the combine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnickell100 View Post
    come on guy. Tons of teams need qb every year. Bridge water is going #1. After that, everything is still up in the air. Mccarron should go late first day or second day. Manziel, bortles and Carr right now are going to be battling for the 2 qb spot.
    Most mock drafts have Carr going to Minnesota at 7 and yes he's better than freeman, cassel and ponder.
    The senior bowl and combine is most likely going to decide where those 3 qb go. Carr is going to kill at the combine.
    I think maybe, just maybe, that some are looking at David Carr and assuming that Derek can't do it in the NFL.

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    Brdigewater is the most polished coming out and will probably go first. I think Manziel can be good, but I think more depends on the situation and system he will be in. I think he will be more dependent on having the right coaching staff to use him effectively and maximize his potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    Croyle's NFL career might be his ceiling.
    Croyle, JP Wilson and McElroy were all undersized. AJ has the size and work ethic to make it and think of the Dallas system as it is...parallel Murray at RB, Whitten and the x and z receivers.....he'd fit right in. Jerry HAS to make a change soon and now would be the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Croyle, JP Wilson and McElroy were all undersized. AJ has the size and work ethic to make it and think of the Dallas system as it is...parallel Murray at RB, Whitten and the x and z receivers.....he'd fit right in. Jerry HAS to make a change soon and now would be the time.
    U high? They just gave Romo a huge contract with guaranteed money spread throughout. Plus, McCarron will never be as good as Romo. This is comical.

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    D2 I may or may not have had several frosty beverages tonight

    But AJ could come in as the backup and just beat him out for the job. Romo will never win the big one

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    The bar for rookies has been set way too high by RG3, Kaep, Cam, Wilson and Luck, that Geno Smith was seen as a failure. None of this rookie crop with lead their teams' to a winning record. Doesn't matter who goes first, second, or third. Overall I would take McCarron to have the best career, reminds me of a Matt Schaub/Russell Wilson combo. Just solid. Flash and dash will get you killed at the next level, ask RG3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    He isn't even close to Peyton pal. That was the point.
    Need to compare roosters first

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    D2 I may or may not have had several frosty beverages tonight

    But AJ could come in as the backup and just beat him out for the job. Romo will never win the big one
    Love me some frostees. Sadly no Wendy's in my area.

    Orale!

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    Told ya'll when Ucf pounded Louisville that bortles is better than bridewater, and that was when bortles had little to none national recognition.

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    Impossible to tell who is going to be good in the pros

    Too many factors go into it

    If I had to bet I would take manziel

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    Connor Shaw better than them all

    Tell me why I'm wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Connor Shaw better than them all

    Tell me why I'm wrong
    how about size and arm strength for starters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    how about size and arm strength for starters?
    inthedark likes bridgewater.. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    Look at that ability

    Bortles by a mile in terms of talent
    lol

    Teddy has been running a pro style offense for 3 years.

    Bortles is a system gueye

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    Bridgewater will be a solid backup in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    lol

    Teddy has been running a pro style offense for 3 years.

    Bortles is a system gueye
    just talkin raw talent guey

    bortles is bigger and has a stronger arm....id guess he'll run a sub 4.6 40 too

    not sure how its even up for debate....im not arguing teddy is more polished or that he's capable

    fwiw i dont think any of these gueys will be stars

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    Hey, in the dark?

    How many good defense has UCF faced? How many actual NFL players has he gone up against in the secondary?

    Look what Manziel does to NFL ready defensive players.

    \thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Bridgewater may be another Byron Leftwich type.

    Manziel a little Colin Kapernick in him

    Bortles looks like a Big Ben Roethlisberger type.
    Agree 100% on Bortles, thought Ben R all the way. I tihnk Bridgewater is the real deal though... he does remind me somewhat on Leftwhich, but he will be better... I dont know about Manziel, is he Brett Favre or Charlie Frye? Def dont see Kaep in there much at all. I like all three, Bridgewater the safest and Manziel the biggest risk. All three have great upside imo.

    As a Browns fan, I wouldnt mind seeing us take Manziel. We wont get a shot at Teddy, mite have a shot at Bortles but I think Manzil will be there. Browns need a guy who doesnt give a fukk at QB, a guy who can put aside all the BS, and just go perform and not care if they get booed or throw 4 picks. Cleveland Browns franchise is such a mess, biggest reason is bc we cant get a QB. Manziel can mentally handle to crap that comes with Cleveland
    Last edited by STAX; 01-02-14 at 08:59 AM.

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    Gotta go with Manziel, guy is a playmaker

    Might have a short career though

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Hey, in the dark?

    How many good defense has UCF faced? How many actual NFL players has he gone up against in the secondary?

    Look what Manziel does to NFL ready defensive players.

    \thread
    shhh...the adults are talking here

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    how about size and arm strength for starters?
    Shaw can sling it though....Will find some YouTube clips later when on a computer....Size and durability yes

    He had an amazing year though...20 something tds and ONE interception all season plus he has all the intangibles, smarts, ability to keep plays and drive alive etc

    He is worth a shot in the middle rounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebuttluv View Post

    Carr won't start in the NFL.
    What an idiot. He's projected in the 1st 5 QB's taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAX View Post
    Agree 100% on Bortles, thought Ben R all the way. I tihnk Bridgewater is the real deal though... he does remind me somewhat on Leftwhich, but he will be better... I dont know about Manziel, is he Brett Favre or Charlie Frye? Def dont see Kaep in there much at all. I like all three, Bridgewater the safest and Manziel the biggest risk. All three have great upside imo.

    As a Browns fan, I wouldnt mind seeing us take Manziel. We wont get a shot at Teddy, mite have a shot at Bortles but I think Manzil will be there. Browns need a guy who doesnt give a fukk at QB, a guy who can put aside all the BS, and just go perform and not care if they get booed or throw 4 picks. Cleveland Browns franchise is such a mess, biggest reason is bc we cant get a QB. Manziel can mentally handle to crap that comes with Cleveland
    Be good to see the Browns have a QB pan out for a change.

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    Bridgewater is the safest pick. Great arm.

    Johnny F has enough upside I would take him if he is truly available with a mid-late round 1st round pick. I wouldnt spend a top 1/3 rd of the 1st on him.

    Bortles I would not spend a 1st round pick on him. He is not accurate enough. Early 2nd maybe. Gonna be a while before he can play on Sundays imo.

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    I'll take Manziel all day. He's a playmaker and did it in the SEC. I think if a couple of dead franchises like Jax or Clev dont take him then they are insane. Even if he is a bust he will rejuvenate their franchise and get the fans back in the seats.

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    I will take Hundley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Bridgewater is the safest pick. Great arm.

    Johnny F has enough upside I would take him if he is truly available with a mid-late round 1st round pick. I wouldnt spend a top 1/3 rd of the 1st on him.

    Bortles I would not spend a 1st round pick on him. He is not accurate enough. Early 2nd maybe. Gonna be a while before he can play on Sundays imo.
    Don't you have a 2k bet that teddy doesn't go top 5?

    Sure wish I had 2k points then

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Connor Shaw better than them all

    Tell me why I'm wrong
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